
UPDATE 1:40 PM: AMC just issued a statement confirming that Hell On Wheels showrunner John Shiban has left and that the series’ third season renewal is now contingent on hiring a new showrunner approved by the network. In a statement, Shiban called the departure “a difficult decision.” Read both statements below my original post:
EXCLUSIVE 11:50 AM: There is some behind-the-scenes drama on AMC‘s Hell On Wheels. The Western drama on Monday was given a 10-episode third-season renewal, but it was picked up without its creators/executive producers Joe and Tony Gayton, who left their day-to-day duties on the show when their contract was not renewed. (They may consult.) At the time, AMC said John Shiban would continue as executive producer/showrunner. Now I hear that veteran showrunner Shiban has informed the network that he won’t be coming back after two years on the show. As a result, I hear Hell On Wheels‘ pickup has been put on hold until a new showrunner is found.
This is the latest AMC series hit by major creator/showrunner departures. The Walking Dead‘s Frank Darabont left in Season 2, Rubicon creator/exec producer Jason Horwitch exited during production on its first and only season, and Hell On Wheels now is looking to continue without its creators and showrunner. Before joining Hell On Wheels, The X Files alum Shiban worked as a consulting producer on another AMC series from a former X Files writer-producer, Vince Gilligan’s Breaking Bad.
Hell On Wheels wrapped its second season earlier this month with a solid average of 2.4 million viewers. That was down from the average of 3 million viewers for the show’s freshman season — but this time around, Hell On Wheels did not have blockbuster The Walking Dead as a lead-in and was impacted by the lack of AMC carriage on Dish Network. Hell On Wheels, from Entertainment One and Endemol USA, is exec produced by Jeremy Gold and David Von Ancken.
AMC:
John Shiban has informed AMC, Entertainment One and Endemol that while he was fully on board when the network informed him about their intent to pick-up Hell on Wheels, he has since made the personal decision that he will be unable to return as showrunner. He has asked the production partners to seek a replacement showrunner. Like all of our shows, network pick-ups are always conditioned on an approved showrunner. We are confident that eOne and Endemol will satisfy that obligation in the near future.John Shiban:
I’m very proud of our work on HELL ON WHEELS and was thrilled to hear the show would have a Season Three. I have since made the difficult decision that the time has come for me to leave. I care deeply about the series and will do whatever I can to aid in the transition to ensure the continued success of the show. I truly value all the time I have spent with this wonderful group of very talented people.
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Can’t wait to hear the juicy details about this show nobody watches.
Obviously people watch it idiot… Unless your calling yourself nobody because you sure were the first person to write something
@Mike
Why the douchebaggery, bro?
Who’s the douchebag, bro? You’re the one who felt the need to come on this board and diss the show – one I might add that gets great reviews.
Awful reviews, actually. But you’re free to live in denial.
wow, sour grapes! Get fired or something, ‘bro’?
Nope, junior. Not “sour grapes” at all. Just an objective analysis of this subpar, zero-buzz, Emmy-free show.
Really and truly, nobody watches it, lol.
I watched every show, it is a great series, actually the best on TV. Now there is nothing worth watching on Sunday nights! I surely hope they find an approved showrunner.
I watch.
I love this show. I left Dish for Directv over this show (after being a Dish customer for over 8 years). I really hope they work things out. I’d hate to see this show to end up like Rubicon…
Rubicon was also a good show. There’s much to like about HOW, too, but that finale was pretty final.
So do I.
I watch, too. But with the carnage of the final episode, who will be left??
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm seems odd they would not only be picked up for a second season but a third season
Why would that happen if there was nobody watching it?
(((rolls eyes)))
How little do you have to do with your days to end up trolling the comment board of a show that “no one watches”? Seems like only a truly worthless human being who is angry at the world would do something as pointless and asinine as that.
This is truly a great show, if you think it’s trash why would you even comment on this? This is a great show and lots of people agree with me and not you!
Just goes to show you don’t know what you’re talking about there and many people that watch this great show. Why would you comment on this show if you don’t like it?
Being the creator/showrunner on an AMC show picked up for a new season doesn’t sound so safe a a bet. What is going on over there?
Its tough to get on and tough to stay on. Now you can see why Weiner stuck it to them on MAD MEN.
AMC fucks over its shows by cutting out great showrunners ( i.e FRANK DARABONT) for more paid ads. The more people that watch AMCs programming…the more greedy the suits at AMC become. NOM NOM MONEY MONEY. Look at Matthew Weiner, he refuses to speak to any of the AMC suits..
Getting rid of showrunners means more paid ads? Uh, try thinking that one through a little more. Anyway, if Weiner won’t even talk to AMC executives he has some nerve, considering no other other channel even wanted his show and AMC gave him his shot.
@MoreTears
You’re an absolute, unequivocal idiot. HBO is on the record lamenting that they passed on MAD MEN. Fool.
@Umpteenth
You just made MoreTears’ point. HBO passed…they didn’t want the show. AMC gave him his shot.
P.S. Weiner and Vince Gilligan turned AMC into a prestige/profit center. Seriously, “MoreTears,” your comments have made you look like an idiot.
Actually, I’m afraid it is you who are an idiot. Why? Because I SAID, above, that no channel but AMC wanted Weiner’s show. Do you understand what that means? It means HBO didn’t want it. They passed on it — which is exactly what YOU acknowledged in saying HBO lamented “passing on it.” Bloody moron.
@MoreTears (Replying to your 1:05 PDT post here):
No, you don’t seem to get it, you pathetic half-wit. Your idiotic assertion that Weiner should kowtow to the AMC execs suggests you’re not only addle-brained, but probably sociopathic. Do you stink up other message boards with this nonsense? Are you a shut-in? Do tell. Cretin.
Uhhhh, @Umpteenth, roid rage much? You’re crazy. It’s very well known that AMC took a chance on MAD MEN when everyone else had passed (famously, HBO among them, despite their history with Weiner), SO Weiner should indeed show them some respect.
@Uhhh: Oh, we get it now. You’re a low-level shill, getting junior-college credit to whine on message boards: “Weiner should RESPECT US! WHY WON’T ANYONE RESPECT US???”
LOL!
it’s probably a contract negotiation ploy.
quit posting twice, that being said, i agree.
This turn of events has Joel Stillerman’s greasy, bean-counting fingerprints all over it, just like the Darabont incident.
It is obvious Joel Stillerman’s cheap MTV ways where he treats creative forces as disposable talent ought to catch the attention of the higher ups now. He forced Frank Darabont out from THE WALKING DEAD, now another good series is being rough handled by him.
When do you think AMC and Cablevision which owns it will wake up? AMC is not creative/talent friendly. Just matter of fact. This is sad and shows how poorly AMC treats its partners.
Did you read the article? This has nothing to do with Stillerman. Shiban left on his own.
your kidding yourself if this doesn’t have his fingerprints all over it. He handles series like a child abuser. Sorry, but why exactly would AMC not renew the contract for the series creators/exec-producers? He cut the budget and gave Frank Darabont walking papers when he dared try to keep the show near same budget they did pilot run with.
Stillerman just isn’t talent friendly. everyone in hollywood knows it, its why AMC is now the last option any quality writer wants to take a show… because they treat them as expendable.
Did neither of you read the article? This has nothing to do with Stillerman. Shiban chose to leave. OH, and “AMC isn’t creative/talent friendly”? Are you for real? Many of the best and most compelling shows on television are on AMC. Your comments reek of bitterness…
I second that. “Peace, Love Pie” you sound like had a bad experience at AMC, but the fact remains that writers are dying to work with them and AMC is at the top of MOST producer’s lists (over HBO in many cases). They consistently put out top quality cable dramas that break the mold. WALKING DEAD, BREAKING BAD, MAD MEN, HELL ON WHEELS…really, the list goes on and on. Bad mouth Stillerman all you want, but the fact remains, you sound bitter while he’s raking in the ratings.
This one if the best shows on television. I will be highly disappointed if this show does not continue on.
Great Show………Bummer news!! AMC has a strong viewer base, and we have faith they’ll rise above this!! To anyone with real writing talent, this would be a fun write and opportunity to bring eyes on their skills!! Hanging in there with Hell on Wheels!
This show is just like Homeland, nobody watches it.
no one watches Homeland? are you serious?
Roger…respectfully, you sound like you have terrible taste in television.
Homeland, best show on TV!
It’s not surprising that Shiban would leave the show now that he doesn’t have the Gaytons to hide behind. John’s dirty little secret is that he’s not a good writer and he doesn’t know how to run a show.
You are dead wrong. I worked on the show and John is the best showrunner you could work for. The Gayton’s scripts were a bit better but his scripts and his direction were fine.
That headline is somewhat sensationalist, no? Of course the renewal depends upon a showrunner being hired, the renewal of ANY show would be contingent upon that, whether it was successful or not. They will find a showrunner and production will go forward. This show is too good to let go. Along with Deadwood, it brought the western back to TV and people love that.
Season two was good but flawed (perhaps due to Shiban?). A new showrunner could be exactly what this show needs right now!
Did show runner on every show i like work on xfiles? Jon Shiban, Vince Gilligan, Howard Gordon, who else? Maybe i should go back and watch xfiles!
Hopefully they can hire someone to right the ship…
Huge fan of the concept. Huge critic of the execution.
I’ll accept whatever it takes to keep this show going… nothing on television tests the will of its characters more than this show.
What! There are lots of people that watch that show. It it one of the best shows on TV.
Sadly, I must agree. Have stuck with it faithfully since the beginning, but it’s slower than molasses in January! Sad, too, they killed off female lead – understood the merit of shaking things up dramatically with the twist, but in fact, the show’s already SO dark, and she was very appealing.
The show meandered so much in the last couple of episodes of Season 2 how is it even expected to get a pick up? It seemed to no pun intended fall off the rails. It was a really interesting show to watch develop Season 1 and then even into Season 2 for the first half, but it went from “oh let’s see where this goes” to “oh god this is where it’s gonna go” and it’s a shame cause for a seemingly low budget show they made well with it and even though stuff was simple it was shot well and it could have evolved into something great by Season 3 & 4. Can’t see them recovering from this and if they do it’s going to be a real shocker.
After working on this season 1 and 2 I can almost be sure that if AMC didn’t pick up the Gayton’s then Shiban walked with them. The Gayton’s are great great guys and wonderful writers and I can’t imagine why AMC slowly edged them out of their own show. I saw it happen and it had all of us scratching our heads.
I’m not sure in what capacity you work on the show, but that is definitively not what happened.
If you know better then why don’t YOU tell us what happened?
No One…you’re wrong. Let’s just leave it at that.
I know. I loved Rubican. Also I love HOW but not the way it ended.
Come on AMC lets get a writer and have a season 3. Too good a show to lose.
Finally. Someone speaks the truth!
I don’t think I can cope without seeing Cullen every week
Bummer. I really hope the show still ends up with that season three renewal. I love the western setting.
Oh I hope they find a show runner soon..I love this show and can’t wait for the next season.
They plan only 10 episode? Really? How can they call this a series with only 10 episodes. Just when the “season” gets going, we see the finale! These cable shows need to makes as many shows as the on-air series. The major series’ star shows (like Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Hell on Wheels, Falling Skies, etc.) have the ratings. Why not make more, sell more ads and make more money?
AMC your best show bring it back…. Please.
I did watch it, but now they’ve killed off Lily I probably won’t anymore. I don’t like gratuitously shocking endings.
I love lamp. I also enjoy Hell on Wheels. Breathe people. Breathe.
LOVE Hell in Wheels! Praying that there is a third season!! Intriguing characters and great story. For now I have my H.O.W. theme song ringtone.
My wife and I both love this show, but there’s no coming back from the season 2 finale. All the inter-personal tension is gone. The Durants are under arrest; Lily, the Swede, and Mr. Toole are all dead; Eva’s options will be to be with Elam or be alone (and after everything, we expect her to choose “alone”); Ruth rebuked both Sean and Joseph; you can easily imagine Cullen either walking away from the railroad or choosing to finish it (whether being coerced into finishing it or making the choice of his own will is irrelevant). In short, everything is wrapped up for all the main characters. Someone like Cullen would very likely walk away from the railroad, unless coerced, because building it was something to do while waiting for something else to do. Since he’s got no vested interest in building like Lily or the Durants did, he’d conclude that chapter of his life is closed and drift on until he found something else. Personally, I found the juxtaposition of Cullen’s sadness (at the loss of everything) and hope (for future as he stood at the stake with Lily’s kercheif on it) particularly poignant and an excellent note on which to end the show.
All this show needs to be better is new writers that actually know the characters. The writing in season 2 was not very good, but we have many writers in our facebook Hell On Wheels fan group that can write Amazing stories about these characters from H.O.W. We have writing contest all the time featuring Hell On Wheels stories. AMC needs to hire our writers from this group, and then you will have an Awesome show again. Feel free to join our fan group “Hell on Wheels & then some!!!” https://www.facebook.com/groups/210781332348269/