Ray Richmond is contributing to Deadline’s TCA coverage.
UPDATED: The feud between new judges Mariah Carey and Nicki Minaj: real or fake? That was the question lobbed at the American Idol panel at TCA this morning in the wake of reports of cat-fighting between new judges Carey and Minaj, which one critic charged “feels like it’s fake.” Naturally, that sentiment was vehemently denied by both the producers and the judges.
“Whatever feuds there have been — and this isn’t just between Nicki and Mariah but Keith (Urban) and Randy (Jackson) as well — are genuine,” executive producer Nigel Lythgoe said. “Whenever you’re in this sort of passionate situation, these things happen.” Fox reality chief Mike Darnell echoed that “it’s authentic” and explained that it has to do with the fact “there is passion in this group. They disagree about the talent, and the ways to approach the talent.” (After the panel, Darnell denied that anyone involved in Idol has orchestrated the Carey-Minaj feud, blaming it on “a rogue crew member probably took the video and sent it to TMZ. We did not encourage it.”)
And what do the ladies have to say about the fighting? “This is a passionate panel,” Carey said. “There are a lot of strong personalities…I think the fighting is what it is. This is American Idol. It’s bigger than all of that. But this is not just a big trumped-up thing.” Later, when asked how she and Minaj worked out their differences, Carey maintained that “the whole thing is convoluted, and it’s a distraction from the show and the contestants, and I think it’s unfair to them really.” Minaj added, “We’re professionals.” But that was followed by a collection of jokey quips from the panel designed to diffuse the question. It worked.
Meanwhile, as to the inevitable issue of whether Idol is growing a bit long in the tooth entering its 12th season, Darnell denied that the series was “reaching its sunset,” as even Fox programming chief Kevin Reilly had admitted. With the new trio of judges joining perpetual holdover Jackson, Darnell believes the show continues to “reach a renewal every couple of years, and this panel has reinvigorated the show. There’s a great energy on this panel that’s going to hike it up.” At the same time, Darnell admitted that the sheer tonnage of music competition shows now crowding the air (including The X Factor on Fox) makes continuing to draw in viewers an increasing challenge. “There are too many shows on the air and we’re probably all taking each other down a little bit,” he noted. “But (Idol) is still the king of (these) shows. This is the only one that makes stars, period. And people keep coming back for that reason.”
After the panel, Darnell said he couldn’t see any end in sight for the show. “Look, in my wildest dreams, could I ever have imagined that we’d have a show go 11 years going into its 12th still the No. 1 entertainment show on television? No. That’s incredible. And that’s with all of the challengers and everything else”, he said, adding later, “We’re still doing numbers that, even as it goes down, are enviable. I don’t see us living without it for many years to come.”


This is all so boring. It only confirms the continuation of fast forwarding through every part of Idol…except the talent performances. Actually, this does make the show so much more acceptable to watch while reducing two hours to about twenty minutes.
it is TV = fake
Hmmm….‘American Idol’ Execs Deny That On-Set Feuds Aren’t “Genuine”.
Let’s see, two negatives make a positive, right?
I think the PASSION in this story is just, way too PASSIONATE.
Two minutes of that freak show Nicki would be two minutes too long.
The American Idol panel is getting to look like freak central. How about some normal judges…
This program, along with all reality TV, has jumped the shark 2 years ago. Only idiots find this funny and entertaining! Anyone who watches this crap would learn so much about themselves and the world if they just read a book or went to the library. TV is truly a BOOB tube and has dumbed down American youth for the last 3 generations now!
So, wait, which is it… The fights are “genuine” or the fights are “convoluted.” They can’t be both.
They are genuinely convoluted.
They sure can be both. Check out ‘convoluted’ in a dictionary.
*Contrived?
Sounds like this show is a real mess! Poor Keith Urban….What did he get himself into?
he got himself into a big pay day for doing very little
A huge paycheck?
One of the best things about The Voice is that the judges seem to get along and have a good time. I have no interest watching AI’s judges snarling and glaring at each other.
I’m finished with American Idol. Only one credible judge left. If I want to see a clown with orange hair and an attitude I’ll check out the circus.
who IS that freak with the pink and yellow hair?
Our entire family are boycotting the show this year because of the yellow /pink haired freak. 29 TV’s
I’ve watched every season except the 1st & I’m not watching this year. I could care less. I’m not sure how Keith will do, but Randy’s Yo Dawg’s are getting old & the fights between Carey & Minaj are degrading the show. I thought putting Minaj on the panel was a huge mistake when I first heard about it & I maintain that view.
Putting Minaj on as a judge was AI’s jump-the-shark moment, as far as I am concerned. The descent thereafter will be steep, rapid, and unreversable.
Exactly. Nicki Minaj is a RAPPER which by DEFINITION means she knows about as much about singing as pipe welding.
google Frances Coontz and see the kind of world class talent that Idol kicks off- there’s no way she won’t become famous, like Colby Caillat and so many other great singers that were kicked off for inexplicable reasons. Her home computer recordings are better than 90% of the auto tune garbage being foisted on the public.
Until Idol goes back to being a singing contest again, it will continue to falter. The manipulation of the contestants by producers is hardly even hidden any longer, and the “judges” are just there to propagate the storyline steer voters to their desired result.
Seriously – Phillip Philips and Lee Dewyze being the best talent out of hundreds of thousands? Why not just call it “America’s cutest boy to tempt millions of teenage girls to respond”)
It all went downhill after Simon left. He probably left BECAUSE the manipulation was getting so unbelievable.
At least last year some true vocal talent fought through much of the BS. Jessica Sanchez will be the success story of season 11, even after all of the flip-flop “advice” she was given and how badly she was sabatoged with difficult songs.
Who the hell is Nicki Minaj? Why is she even in this? I was so over AI 4 years ago!! Seems like the circus is in town!!! Mariah and Keith will regret getting involved in this fiasco…except for the money that is. Seems like people will do anything for money these days….
Jesus that’s Keith urban? I honestly thought that was billy ray Cyrus. Doesn’t matter, show sucks they suck and I suck for reading this article
I know the feeling! How do I get sucked into reading this crap, and worse commenting on it?!
LOL
Note to Minaj –
‘The bigger they are, the harder they fall’. And I’d rather listen to Mariah Cary with laryngitis than you on your best day. Peace!
Looks like a clown show this last year for Idol. Nicki is a joke at best – most likely won’t watch it. They want to change the audience make up so they put douche bags as judges and will attract the same.
How did Minaj even get on this show ? She has no real talent. Manufactured has gotten old.
Idol show has become Cheap and Tawdry. Nicki Minjai (whoever she is) is a disgrace. After watching for ten years, I’ve had enough.
How did Minaj even get on this show ? She has no real talent – and manufactured talent is getting really old. Give us someone that can really sing without having to use obsenities to cover up their non-talent. Get back to real or this show is off for good.
I am proud to say I have watched exactly ZERO seconds of American Idol in its entire history. I can’t believe that people can be so gullible for any piece of this crap. And of course it’s contrived fighting. This show is fighting for its life and needs a new gimmick.
Read a book.
Read a book. The best entertainment I’ll have in my life.
If you have watched “exactly ZERO” seconds of American Idol, what makes you an expert on who is gullible, what is crap, and what is contrived? The show is number 1 on Fox. Please fill me in on how that is “fighting for its life”.
I expect that Idol, will continue its downward spirial.
You know, I miss judges that are here to critique singers for what they are, karaoke, at best. Now the judges only agree to be on AI because they get exposure for their crappy CDs and concerts.
N.G.A trash! There can’t be that many 12 percenters watching this, time for good programming.
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Nicki needs to be thrown out on her keester! She is a no talent that has to cause controversy to get her names in the headlines! (ie Hanging a bird on national television – DUH!) If you can only cause controversy – stay the heck home! No one wants to listen to you rant and rave with your multi-colored ugly as sin hair and make up. Get a fricking life! Just saying . . .
I feel dumber for having even read this article. I need more coffee this morning.
American Idol’s best days are over. “The Voice” far excels American Idol and X-Factor. The more bizarre AI and X-Factor gets with off-the-wall judges, the less viewers they attract. The only stunt left for the producers is food fights and mud wrestling between the female panelists .
As laughable and amateurish as they are, soaps are more credible than Idol.
Manufactured drama poorly staged…
idol is a fake show. nothing but stupid karaoke idiots. so of course the “stars” are just as fake too. pop culture is not art, and the purveyors of pop culture are not artists.