
Hollywood is in a real space race. Juan Antonio Bayona has been set to helm the untitled space pic that Forrest Gump scribe Eric Roth has written for Warner Bros, with Kevin McCormick producing. This comes amidst other space pic developments: JJ Abrams switching off from Star Trek to an attempt to place defibrilator paddles on what is left of Star Wars; and as Marvel Studios prepares to launch the space-set Guardians of the Galaxy as its next superhero franchise. That latter movie is still in the casting stage for the lead character of Starlord, and Marvel is still searching after Joseph Gordon-Levitt said no. I gave you a short list of actors last year who were meeting, and they’ve widened the search.
Separately, a space-set version of The Odyssey just got launched at Warner Bros, and the studio has dated for fall the Sandra Bullock-George Clooney-starrer Gravity, directed by Alfonso Cuaron. This is 3D and should be great.
Personally, I find it easier to get excited about the combination of the imagination of a great writer like Roth (The Good Shepherd and The Insider) and Bayona, who helmed The Orphanage and just directed the tsunami movie The Impossible, or even Guardians of the Galaxy, than the attempt to bring back Star Wars. A lot of people drool slavishly over the memory of the original first two films and how groundbreaking they were. All I recall when George Lucas launched the second trilogy, is how quickly he exhausted all my good will with an effort that was soooo disappointing (that runty kid who turned into Darth Vader engaged in flying scooter races, and Jar Jar Binks and other nonsense that seemed contrived to sell toys). That film came out around the same time as the first installment of The Matrix, and I remember seeing that movie and thinking, this was what the second cycle of Star Wars should have been.
It was disruptive, groundbreaking, and the plot and the special effects were mind blowing and wholly original. Yeah, so the Wachowskis got smug and totally screwed up the next two films and then Speed Racer too, but that first one was a zeitgeist movie moment similar to the one we felt with the original Star Wars, when Lucas was light years ahead of everybody else. Maybe Abrams can bring some of the magic back–I thought he crushed it on the first Star Trek reboot–but even he will be hard pressed to make me care about a universe that has been irrelevant since the era of disco.
I am as big a fan of The Lord of the Rings as anyone you’ll ever meet (except maybe Harry Knowles, probably), but when I watched The Hobbit with the anticipation that many will bring to Star Wars, it just wasn’t the same as LOTR even as it heads toward the billion dollar mark in worldwide gross. The stakes weren’t as high, and it felt a bit tedious and I couldn’t help feel they were milking the plot of one JRR Tolkien book and some appendices to span three instead of two movies. Not to please audiences as much as bring another billion in box office revenue to the coffers of Warner Bros and MGM. It happens all too often (I’m sure The Hunger Games won’t be immune as Lionsgate stretches three books into four movies).

Not that it was remotely in this hallowed ground territory of films in this discussion, but did anyone who saw the third installment of Twilight Saga not feel fully aware the filmmakers were milking a decent final book into two movies solely for an extra billion dollar payday? We were forced to sit there through an interminably long stretch where a pregnant Bella (Kristen Stewart) turned into Skeletor (as Edward and Jacob mooned over her). And then there were a bunch of dull werewolf-vampire fights where nobody got killed or even hurt, it was just a lot of jumping and running. All the good stuff got pushed to the final movie. It got to the point I leaned over to my sister, sitting next to me and said, “please, kill me now.” Enough geek ranting for a Saturday night. Good luck on Star Wars, JJ.


Clearly someone working in development at Warners accidentally opened the wrong cupboard and a tidal wave of ‘space based’ scripts came tumbling out.
Fleming…you hit it dead center. All of it. How do you tell, demand Hollywood to quit thinking about the bottom line profit above all else? How do you tell Hollywood to quit fucking every good story up instead of taking risks on just simply telling good stories, which really isn’t a risk at all, if you give more power to the writer? but then, the writer had to own up and do great work. Blah, blah, BLAH? It’s a dead end street trying to clean up and set straight Hollywood before it all falls crashing down on its own hubris. I see it coming a mile away.
JJ Abrams’ approach to Star Trek tells us how he is likely to approach Star Wars: he didn’t reinvent it, or add anything of substance. He took a famous property, focused on well-known brand names (Kirk, Spock, Enterprise) for maximum PR boost, and shoehorned the whole thing into the approved summer tentpole movie format, with pretty faces, an easy-to-understand generic conflict, and lots of splosions, plus a little character development inbetween the action sequences. In other words, he’s a corporate caretaker, and nothing close to an artist or visionary. And he has been rewarded handsomely with mega boxoffice success. Mediocrity sells.
For Star Wars, the path is clear: bring back one of the OT actors (preferably the biggest name, Harrison Ford, but Mark Hamill will do in a pinch) to hand off the torch to recast actors. Focus on the big brand names (Luke, Han, Leia and don’t forget the Millenium Falcon!) Star Wars doesnt do time travel, so that can’t be the justification for recasting with pretty faces, but I’m sure JJ will think of something, flashback or whatnot.
The biggest dilemma with Star Wars is that the biggest name, Darth Vader, is off limits. Or is he? If JJ reboots those awful prequels, he should get the Nobel Prize for Movies.
You do realize JJ is NOT writing the screenplay yes?
Sffan I’m afraid you may be correct in your estimation.
As I spoke to a coworker I sensed more dread than excitment, why is that? I generally enjoy all of JJs work but still feel, as you do, that some firebrand originality will be left out. Sad I am, reckless is he (or perhaps I should say not reckless enough?). I sincerly hoped Disney would choose a young non-genre director with something to prove like the Safety Not Guaranteed director. I like what they did with The Amazing Spiderman, got a new no name director to bring a fresh take to a tired property. I hope that we’re wrong (oh god do I hope).
Dear Mike,
The Star Wars universe isn’t exhausted at all. The reason you had genuine excite at the announcement of the Prequels is a testament to this fact.
What IS exhausted however, is George Lucas. Personally, I believe he was best after the original Episode 4! Hence he let someone else direct 5 & 6.
There are a whole slew of stories waiting to be told in that universe and all that was ever needed was new blood to tell them. You see because that’s the genius of what George originally created, not a film, not a story, but a universe.
PLEASE look up the story of Darth Plagueis. I have been itching to see this story brought to screen as it is by far even more interesting a story arc than Luke’s.
I say bring on more Star Wars stories, but this time do it with dignity and with difference voices.
Lame dig at Star Wars. Regardless of your thoughts on the prequels, the franchise is doing just fine. The cartoon is in it’s fifth season, a new novel just came out, the latest comic book is in it’s third printing due to demand. But yeah, we didn’t like two characters from Episode 1, so lets see the franchise is dead. Lame.
Agreed. Calling the franchise “irrelevant since the era of disco” ?? Really? I can easily find some random message board member making that comment, but an actual media journalist? Everyone obviously doesn’t have the same taste in film, and that’s totally fine, but your distaste, frustration, or apathy of prequel Star Wars shouldn’t influence you to make such a statement.
The late 1980s is really the only time the franchise has been outside of the public consciousness. It picked up steam in the early 90s with massive publications of novels, video games, and comics, and then of course culminated with the Special Edition Trilogy, followed shortly by the prequel trilogy. As Patrick says above, the franchise is still very relevant and doing quite well. Clone Wars is in Season 5, and they’ve been able to tell some really nice quality stories throughout the years (a few stinkers too, but that’s granted for a TV show). Star Wars merchandise continues to sell strong in stores. The Blu-Rays are selling good. The publishing side as doing exceptionally well too. LucasArts has been a bit quiet recently, but I’m sure their upcoming “Star Wars 1313″ game will sell well (also curious to see if Disney shuts them down, or merges them with their video game company).
I’m not calling the prequels masterpieces, because they are far from it, but financially they were very successful, and the new upcoming Star Wars films will be as well. Yes, the 3D-Release of the films probably isn’t bringing in the anticipated amount of box office cash, but as we’ve seen with other 3D-re-releases, they can be hit or miss. Episode II and III are being released this fall, and I almost guarantee Fox will release the original trilogy in 3D leading up to when Disney releases Episode VII. Those will definitely have better results than the 3D prequel trilogy.
It’s a massive universe, with plenty of stories and adventures to be told, and Disney knows this. It’s far from being irrelevant.
Agree w/ you 100% on both Stars and LOTR.
Please try writing down and and thinking more about things you post here. Comments don’t go away,and could tarnish your future journalistic future worth. Love Dave
Yes…because everyone posts with their real names.
You got it right, Mike! This was a really enjoyable read.
The Star Wars prequels exhausted all my good will, too. They were just soulless cash grabs. I went from being happy every time I thought of Star Wars to being exhausted.
I’m really excited about the Roth/Bayona movie.
Is it an official requirement that in order to write for Deadline you have to be an anti-fun dunderhead who hates everything?
Dunderhead? Easy there, Nerdlinger. He gave the first two Star Wars movies a thumbs up, and did the same for The Matrix. The rest of the entries in both series WERE crap. Visually striking. But crap.
Admiral Fleming, I find your lack of faith disturbing. I shall now Force-choke you through the interwebs until you die gasping for breath. This is the death you deserve for irritating me. Be gone with you and never besmirch this website ever again. Rest in pieces.
Wait so, Gordon-Levitt actually DID get offered Guardians of the Galaxy? I thought that was just all talk to get more money for Justice League?
So am I going to be the only person here to defend Return of the Jedi?
Yeah, it was another Death Star, and people love pissing on Ewoks – they’re short, so it’s easy. But the banter between Han and Leia was at its best. This is the movie where Harrison Ford improvised, “I know”, to Leia’s confession of love. The light saber fight between Vader and Luke was epic because the stakes were at once the Empire AND father/son.
And then there’s Slave Leia – one of the most iconic images from the whole franchise. Wanna know how popular she is? Check out the cosplay pics from Comic-Con and its various iterations, or go shopping for a woman’s costume around Halloween.
Jedi rocked! The triple-battle at the end was the best climax in any Star Wars movie, and the space battle was the best ever put on film. The model work, with almost 200 composite shots, kicks the crap out of any CGI today.
Forgive me for being pedantic, but I think you’re confusing two movies here. The Han/Leah banter and Han’s improvised ” I know” were in TESB not ROTJ. There was no Han/Leah chemistry (tension) to speak of in ROTJ…
Ahem, that should, of course, be “Leia” and not “Leah”…
Han’s “I know” line to Leia is at the end of Empire Strikes Back.
“[THE MATRIX] was disruptive, groundbreaking, and the plot and the special effects were mind blowing and wholly original.”
Well, except to anyone who’d seen any movie made in Hong Kong between 1975 and the day MATRIX opened.
What you’re failing to realize is that Star Wars lore is religion. It is not just movie anymore, nor has it been for a very long time. The uber-box office success of those horrible prequels is all the proof you need. Disney more bought a devoted, religious cult like following that will PAY TWICE to experience travesty-like story telling carrying the beloved brand, and will pay for all the gizmos, gadgets and toy like idles that come along with it to boot. It doesn’t matter HOW bad the new ones are (though with the creative talent on board they should at least be decent) they will still make gazillions.
And say what you will, but if George only ever did Star Wars right, he will go down as one of the greatest film makers and business men of all time– and deservedly so.
Jon Peters once said he wanted to make “Star Wars on Earth” and he wanted Michael Jackson to star in it. That’s all he had just that goofy idea. He couldn’t write it or even read what was written for him because he was and still is literally illiterate.
But Star Wars on Earth is what the man wanted. Ironically it was actually made years later under the title “Independence Day” that’s what Peters wanted he just didn’t know how to go about developing it. Oh and if it could have polar bears and giant spiders that would make it even better.
Eric Roth ADAPTED Forrest Gump. He WROTE The Postman. So… don’t start praising him too much. The same could be said for William Moynahan. He ADAPTED The Departed. He didn’t create it.
I’m sorry to break it to you, man, but The POSTMAN is also an adaptation. Check your stuff before pontificating. Eric Roth is a good writer. Forrest Gump is really almost an original screenplay and you’d know that if you’d read winston groom’s novel. He also wrote benjamin button from a threadbare concept by f.scott fitzgerald. I’d say he’s more than proved himself to be A list.
“solely for an extra billion dollar payday…”
Billion dollar paydays allow for more movies to be produced.
Billion dollar paydays allow for more screenwriters, directors, actors, and crew to be hired.
And best of all, billion dollar paydays allow studios to take risks and take a chance on that spec that might just become the next Matrix, Inception, or Avatar.
Long as good and evil exist there will be Star Wars movies. It will long outlast Bond films and branch off to individual character projects like the comic book universe is doing now. Who wouldn’t go see a Bobba Fett or Han Solo movie? Never underestimate the power…
” a universe that has been irrelevant since the era of disco.” -Ok, regardless of how one feels about the prequels or even Return of the Jedi, that has to be one of the stupidest most out of touch things I’ve ever seen on this site. How many Star Wars related memes do you see on facebook or other websites every week? (Hell, every day almost) How many Star Wars related t shirts do you see for sale everywhere? Even the recent “White House Death Star” petition made news. If that doesn’t define relevant to the culture, what does? Tell me how many toys and merch The Matrix is still moving…and then get back at me.
Yeah, I honestly don’t know where he was going with the statement; totally agree with your post. I shared similar sentiments a few posts above, too.
The Matrix *wasn’t* original. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrW3E6BN5Dg
Not to be the simpleton most writers accuse me of being, but isn’t it all in the execution, really? MATRIX, LOTR and the original STAR WARS were at the highest level of execution in terms of story. The MATRIX sequels, STAR WARS prequels and HOBBIT, not so much.
What changed? Was part of it that the success of the former prevented — or at least hampered — external critical examination during the development process? Who wants to rock the Wachowskis boat when a fairly under-the-radar film that only WB had concerned faith in grosses nearly a half-billion in ’99 dollars? Lucas is Lucas – he owned it and could do what he wanted. I don’t think anyone at Lucasfilm was a sycophant, but that kind of enclosed arena creates echo chambers all too often. As for HOBBIT, the luster may have worn off Jackson a little with his post-LOTR experiences, but MGM et al NEEDED to get that thing going so the checks were signed.
I’m a big believer in the theory that constraints lead to the best creative outcomes, be they financial constraints or editorial/creative ones. Remove all — or most — constraints and unnecessary excess is all but guaranteed.
As for the rush of space pics, we’ve run out of villains. Terrorists are almost tapped-out and, depending on how they are portrayed, can lead to all kinds of interest-group backlash.
Can’t use the Chinese because they’re nearly our biggest market — witness RED DAWN and OLYMPUS HAS FALLEN and their ridiculous North Korean tropes. Nazis are overdone and — except for IRON SKY? — period-based. Russia just isn’t sexy (sorry DIE HARD-whatever) and the Cold War is something even those of us who lived through part of it don’t think about (good luck to THE AMERICANS — I really like Kerri Russel.
What does all this leave? Fantastic antagonists: demons, the Devil, ghosts, dragons, elves, space aliens. Given the realities of this villain quandary, I’d expect ever increasing numbers of tent-poles centered around versions of this (and this is after years of AVENGERS, BATTLESHIP, BATTLE:LOS ANGELES, TRANSFORMERS etc etc etc).
Great, great article Mike!