
EXCLUSIVE: What could Avi have been thinking? Last night, after a long day and fueled by quotes from Millennium Films chief Avi Lerner, I broke a story that another Texas Chainsaw Massacre film would move forward later this year in Louisiana. I learned today from the rights holders, producer Carl Mazzocone and executive producer Mark Burg, that the green light wasn’t Avi’s to give and they were surprised because no progress on this sequel has yet been made.
After the seventh film in the splatter series surprised everyone by beating films like The Hobbit, Django Unchained and Les Miserables to win the weekend box office with a $21.7 million gross, you know a sequel is inevitable. But according to Mazzocone, its timing is his to dictate, and he and Burg say nothing will happen until they work out the creative beats with domestic distributor Lionsgate.
“The rights are controlled by Carl and Main Line Pictures, no matter what Millennium says,” Burg told me. “Millennium simply sold the foreign rights and they will not tell us when a sequel is ready to be made. The script was developed by Carl, myself and writer/director John Luessenhop. Millennium and about ten producers came aboard only when we needed their check. Maybe they’re looking for something to sell at Berlin, but they have no right to announce this sequel and if we make another it has to be as good or better than this one and that takes time.”
A spokesperson for Millennium said the company is contractually part of any sequel, and that it served an important role in getting the movie made. “I understand all this wrestling about credit, but you show me a producer who’ll turn down the cash they need to do a sequel, and I will fall off my chair. Without us, that movie would not have gotten made.”
This wouldn’t be the first time when a surprise hit leads to everyone and his brother jumping up to take credit. Mazzocone and Burg were surprised yesterday when the Los Angeles Times did a big glowing profile on Lati Grobman and Christa Campbell, who were trumpeted as producers in the headline, but who are listed as executive producers in the credits. Mazzocone and Burg said they were kissed into those credits at the request of Lerner, and that they served no creative role and barely if at all showed up on the set. Millennium countered that they convinced Lerner to get involved, since Texas Chainsaw 3D isn’t usually up his alley.
While Burg has been heralded for teaming with Oren Koules and taking a chance and writing a check to own the Saw series which made them a killing, all of this credit grabbing is more upsetting to Mazzocone. He produced the 1993 Jennifer Lynch-directed Boxing Helena, and sued Kim Basinger when she stepped out of a negotiated pay or play commitment that put the movie on the rocks (Madonna had bailed before Basinger began talks). Mazzocone won a shocking $8.1 million legal judgment, which Basinger later settled for $3.8 million after declaring bankruptcy. While it put a chill on the rash of actors who were regularly bailing on project commitments at that time, Mazzocone had trouble moving forward with his career after he took on a top actress and her high powered agents and lawyers.
Mazzocone has spent subsequent years mostly line producing films for others, until he got involved in Texas Chainsaw 3D in 2008. When Texas-based rights holders Kim Henkel (cowriter of the original film) and Bob Kuhn looked to make a new deal after Platinum Dunes generated several films for New LIne, Mazzocone found the $1 million needed to lock down the property. Lionsgate, which distributed the lucrative Saw series for Burg, stepped up and originally planned to fully finance. That changed when the company had a cash crunch fighting a Carl Icahn takeover.
Lionsgate committed to $25 million P&A, but wanted a partner to take foreign and raise the production budget through pre-sales. Mazzocone and Burg enlisted Millennium, where Danny Dimbort pre-sold enough territories to cover most of the $15 million budget. Lerner has half the copyright on the new hit movie, but the franchise rights are held by Mazzocone, who had made multi-picture deals with the cast and who squarely deserves the love for reviving a franchise promising enough that others want credit for it.
For his part, Mazzocone credited the Lionsgate marketing campaign, with its numerous one-sheets, trailers and TV spots, for giving the film the needed momentum for a strong opening weekend. “The movie was smart and we won’t move forward until we’re in synch with Lionsgate to make sure the next one is as good or better.”
I’m sure this will all be smoothed over and that Leatherface will be sporting that fleshy mask and oiling up the saw for another go-around sooner than later. But it is also okay for Mazzocone to get his due for hanging in and delivering a winner.


“…if we make another it has to be as good or better than this one and that takes time.”
All this hubbub over a crappy sequel that has an 11% on Rottentomatoes from top critics and 21% from all critics.
I don’t know who I feel more sorry for, these producers all fighting over credit for a film that will be forgotten, or all the loser moviegoers who bought tickets to this trash.
I’d say try to make it better than TXC3D, not as good, but then again ANYTHING would be better than that TXC3D.
“if we make another it has to be as good or better than this one and that takes time.”
Well, with a Rotten Tomatoes score of 21%, it probably won’t take that much time.
The last person that tried to mess with Carl found themselves looking down the business end of Patty Glaser. Don’t mess with Mazz. He is man of true character and has clearly demonstrated that he will fall on a grenade when he knows he is right. I would trust him with my life. Any person that goes against him must be garbage.
Avi is reprehensible. Carl is a man of his word and great guy even if his taste in movies questionable. I said taste not ability to make money. And I’m sorry – “isn’t up his alley” – as far as I can tell Avi Lerner would make any piece of garbage if he thought he could make a dime.
Indeed, I would strongly caution Mike about listening to Lerner or Millennium. But he seems to get that.
Really? You’re an idiot. Why don’t you check the WGA arbitration and how he tried to steal a writing credit from the writers. Yeah, he is that guy, yeah, he is that kind of Producer. Go on and check.
Yeah….but you also forgot that critics are assholes. It’s the fans opinion that gets these films made. And the true fans want another one.
A 5.0 rating on IMDb isn’t exactly a tidal wave of popular support. As a “true fan” of horror, I don’t want to see another lazy, nonsensical piece of junk like this.
Do some research. Just looking at the WGA notes won’t give you the entire story! Research!!!
Avi Learner might be forgiven for assuming that Carl and Mark will want to do a sequel (they will) but the LA Times running with a self aggrandizing press release naming two undeserving credit hogs as producers of the picture is just too typical and disgusting. When I was a studio exec we had a little saying about the press in these situations: “Gee, I’m surprised they got it wrong.” Not.
Round of applause for Mike Fleming because THIS, my friends, is reporting! Not only does he get to the bottom of who the real producers are (and shows up the LA Times in the process), he explains how they ended up with the rights in the first place and how the deal was put together. Smart, illuminating, and accurate, this is what Deadline does so well and why paying for the other entertainment trade papers is a complete waste of money…
I agree — hats off to Mike Fleming. This kind of article is exactly why I read Deadline.
That would be the moviegoers. Everyone else made money.
OK, I’ve known Carl for 33 years…..I met him in College… Say what you want… but what you need to know is this guy is loyal and dedicated to a task. … he has principals which you cannot say for the majority of hollywood… He sticks buy his friends… he’s worked hard to be in this business when everyone is looking to make a name and knock you down. It’s not easy when shallow narcissistic people are always trying to knock you down to make them feel better about themselves. He loves film… it’s been his passion since I first met him in 1980. It would have been easy to walk away and do something else… he deserves the success of this film for a career of hard work and sacrifice… get off your high horses and let him enjoy this win..
Kudos to Fleming for crushing John Horn of the LA Times. A little old school detective work pays off! Great job!
I take offense to comment posted by “Writer Friendly” that Mazzocone is the kind of guy that would steal story credit!
I have developed a screenplay with Carl, and will tell you that he is one of the most astute creative producers I’ve ever met. In fact, I would write with him in the future if the opportunity arises.
Angelo Pizzo – Writer : Rudy, Hoosiers
“I got a Chainsaw . . . He got a Chainsaw . . . He got a Chainsaw . . . EVERYBODY GOT CHAINSAWS!”
Typical producers taking jabs at those who helped them get their film/s financed.. Be humble … Just because the press is saying Avi will make a sequel, doesn’t mean it will happen. Do you believe I just saw a donkey flying? I bet you did…… silly boy.
I’ve produced a number of films and have been in contact with a number of writers that have worked with Carl Mazzacone. Carl knows story and is dedicated to the vision of that story. A writer that I developed a picture with praised Mazzacone. He doesn’t ‘t try to push himself in the spot light, he avoids it. He should be respected for his convictions. And when another producer takes credit for something they didn’t develop they’re trying to achieve a level of respect and financial support that is undeserving and misleading. So when I read quotes by people who are far removed grime the truth as in the one by Stealth saying “Typical Producers” I know that that person is uninformed and of the ilk that gives this town a bad name. Producer Carl Mazzacone will rise above this and many will gather to be part of his next picture. Congratulations Carl for remaining steadfast and being the kind of film maker most only dream of.