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EXCLUSIVE: Living up to its “Brace Yourself” slogan, Showtime has put in development another provocative project, neo-Nazi drama The 4th Reich. The project, executive produced by Robert De Niro and Jane Rosenthal, is described as American History X meets The Town. 
It is a high-octane crime thriller delving into race, religion, and politics through the lens of a dogmatic faction of the neo-Nazi movement in South Boston. When a former leader is sprung from jail by agreeing to become a confidential informant to the FBI, he assimilates back to his old life and finds his estranged 15-year-old son has been co-opted by his former best friend and now current leader of the Brotherhood. The trajectory of the series will track the central character caught between two worlds as he starts to gain perspective and change.
4th Reich, written on spec by Sonya Winton and Jonathan Kidd, has been a passion project for Rosenthal as it dovetailes with Tribeca’s work with Against Violent Extremism, a “social network” for former violent extremists and their victims. Backed by the Google Ideas think tank, AVE’s goal is to counter violent extremists. In that context, people close to the project stress that The 4th Reich is not just another violent show but hits on the human stories of former extremists and people affected by extremism to help influence “at risk” young people.
Tribeca first set up the 4th Reich spec at CBS TV Studios where the company is under an overall deal. It was taken to Showtime, which immediately bought it for development. De Niro and Rosenthal serve as executive producers, Paradigm-repped Winton and Kidd as co-executive producers and Tribeca’s Berry Welsh as producer. This marks Tribeca’s second major project at Showtime, where the company also has in the works The Good Shepherd, a period drama based on the characters from the 2006 Cold War feature spy thriller directed by De Niro. The film’s writer, Oscar winner Eric Roth, is writing the series adaptation, with De Niro set to direct.
CAA-repped Tribeca and CBS TV Studios also have two drama scripts in contention at CBS, a legal drama from Danny Strong and David O. Russell and family medical drama from TV writer/playwright Diana Son.
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They could call the show The Derivatives.
I’m guessing you haven’t read the pilot, Casey. It’s original, brilliant and will blow you away. Great writers. Tune in. You might be surprised.
Based on the article, it’s essentially American History X the series. Pilot may be brilliant and blow people away, but it’s hardly original, untreaded territory. I have no problem with that. It’s just rather irritating when people pretend something is shockingly original when it isn’t, that’s all.
Agreed. Sounds derivative and eww. Showtime doesn’t need to try this hard. I guess they are into names like HBO. Homeland was free of all that garbage. Just a great show. Will Showtime have that kind of courage ever again? I hope so. There’s no watching HBO.
Still, perhaps those in best position to judge its originality would be those who have actually read it.
Sounds intense and heavy, but Showtime needs to work on their comedy brand a bit more.
“Showtime needs to work on their comedy brand a bit more.”
How about a cinema verite’ treatment of the moral and ethical implications of Showtime’s original show development, production, and promotion – we can call it…”Shameless”.
Showtime has repeatedly gone beyond the “mandatory t*t shot” that marks out every episode of every HBO “hit” (cough cough) – Showtime’s shows positively revel in degeneracy.
And, yet, like all posturing liberal Hollywood, they would never admit to profiting from and getting their rocks off by slumming.
And yet that is the essence of a majority of Showtime’s originals.
For every Homeland – there is a Shameless, Californication, and Weeds.
“Little execs, little execs, all made of ticky tack…”
sounds amazing
It was. When it was called “American History X”. Here was the pitch meeting: “Okay, so we make ‘American History X’ into a series – but instead of an older and younger brother, it’s a father and son.”
This is why you couldn’t pay me to watch this bull$hit channel.
Just what we need, another movie to remind us of how bad it is when white people stick up for themselves. What i’d like to see are movies about Mexican Gangs mass murdering people on our border with guns smuggled to them by our own government or the outrageous rate of black on white violence in this country, like the numerous mob attacks that have occured with increasing frequency in the pass four years. You know, plots that actually are reflective of reality. Enough with the racist denigration of the white male in society. I will not see this film nor any other that portrays white males as evil in comparison to everyone else
Yeah exactly. This KKK stuff has been churned out for decades, and I’ve still never even seen a skinhead before, has anyone? It’s like how the movie terrorists are always whites with funny accents, instead of, you know, accurate portrayals of who is murdering our people. It’s like you’ll have to flip through the newspaper articles about MS13 shooting up your town & another AQ plot being foiled to find this garbage movie listing.
Even for the internet, these are two of the stupidest comments I’ve ever read.
Nah, you’re the idiot, and the two previous posters are correct. Why isn’t Showtime producing a television show about real criminals. I assume it’s because Robert DeNiro is white and needs the work.
Skinheads is such an anachronism; they may as well write a show about the Visigoths.
Mike R.,
Why are their comments stupid? What did Baron and Boog say that was not true? Is your head really that buried in Westside dand that you are oblivious to reality? This production is just more innacurate demonization of the old stereotype that has not existed for decades. Try walking through South LA or Pacoima after dusk and let me know how that works out for you…
Your comment was read live on the radio by Michael Savage just now. Congrats.
you are correct in feeling the way you do–in my humble opinion.
Great…another bunch of idiots wanting to re-write history and misinform the next generation.
I can see this used as a propaganda machine to lump any and all whom the Progressives dislike into neo-nazi racists. They already call anybody who dissents from thier world view as Nazis and Fascists, now they plan a nifty “high octane drama” to emotionally and visually augment the Progressive world view of intolerance and bigotry of all ideas that do not perfectly dovetail with their own and frame them as “Neo Nazi’s”. How broad minded and tolerant of them, as susual (sarc.).
“I can see this used as a propaganda machine to lump any and all whom the Progressives dislike into neo-nazi racists.” – Exactly. Funny how this all coincides with all the Homeland Security commercials depicting white males as the terror threat, and the recent West Point “Combating Terrorism Center’s report: “Challengers from the Sidelines: Understanding America’s Violent Far-Right” which states: “the the major far right threats are from, a racist/white supremacy movement, an anti-federalist movement and a fundamentalist movement.” Only idiots can’t connect the obvious dots. The military-industrial corporate entertainment cabal are quite obviously extremely incestuous.
CoIntelPro
PatCon
Operation Mockingbird
Most will read those and be clueless or think its some kook conspiracy, BUT, its all documented. Its all known. Its all conspiracy fact. Its all really old history still being actively deployed today.
Most still have no clue.
Don’t tell me; its the evil white men again.
It’s kind of interesting because some of us would like to tell a story about a multi-faceted brown or Asian person who is the bad guy. Network won’t buy it (broadcast or cable), regardless of how good the script is.
Uh – AMERICAN HISTORY X2?!?
“AMERICAN HISTORY X2?!?”
Nope – won’t sell in Europe or Asia – now 70% of the boxoffice…rename it “American History *X-Men 2*” and then we can talk….
Wow, looks like word has spread to the Echo Chamber – how many first-time posters will this item inspire?
Should we just stfu and sit down quietly in the corner?
“Should we just stfu and sit down quietly in the corner?”
The bi-coastal MSM still can’t cope with having lost the “monopoly of the megaphone” to the internet and the 90% of the population in “fly-over” country…you know, those lesser beings who don’t inhabit the “Terminal Cities” of NYC and LA.
Every white guy living between the Rockies & the Appalachians is a Aryan Nation kind of guy so watch out America! I’m sorry but I think this whole neo Nazi thing has been done to death & is a bore. Ever since Oklahoma City there has been a secret Nazi plot behind every door. Why not find a different bad guy? How about an eco terrorist or Robespierre like activist psychopathic.
“How about an eco terrorist or Robespierre like activist psychopathic.”
Or a sociopathic pay-TV programming executive.
Or are documentaries not allowed?
Neo Nazis in America today?????? Good God there’s probably 3 times as many black mormons than there are neo nazis. Talk about a liberal work of fiction.
Yeah, Nazis…snort, chuckle. Really? Can’t come up with any other ideas? Have to drop to the obvious and politically acceptable Hollywood bad guy genre? What a bunch of no imagination losers.
The only Nazi movie worth watching was made by the Fins; “Iron Sky” and it’s only worth watching because it’s a comedy…like real world “neo-Nazis” and Hollywood has-beens trying to convince use they have a new idea.
OOOOOh, watch out for the EVIL WHITE GUY! He might be a member of the TEA PARTY!!! Watch him not crap on your car, not get stoned, and pick up after himself. Gotta be careful of those folks.
My My, how brave and edgy. Seems to me neo-nazi’s are rarely heard from these days. How about really sticking their necks out about a real and active villain out there these day like Islamic extremists, terrorists etc. For some reason, that is the one real villain in the world that Hollywood actively avoids. By the way, the Nazis were themselves socialists and progressives. The progressive community should take ownership of that fact.
You have heard of the Homeland, right?
Yeah, Homeland that somehow required an red-headed American to be the symp-vic-terrorist as the patriots make asses of themselves.
FORGET Homeland…
Wed – Jan 23, 2013 @ 2:10 pm EST
Great, another movie about the evil white man. Thanks DeNiro and whats her name, ( ie who cares ) for this compelling story line. The same old leftist BS from the same sources. This is why I do not pay for Showtime, HBO, etc, for that matter watch main streaam TV. It is full of this crap. Look who is responsible for most of the crime in this country. It is not white men. Sorry the truth hurts. I have gotten to the point, that I wish my family never came to this country. It is not the America that I wish for my children, which is why I have educated them and advised towards sdegrees that could be useful in other countries. Not sure this one will survive. Shame, when you consider what was sacrificed by so many ” white men” at places like Iwo Jima, Normandy, I Drang, Chosen Reservoir etc.
Knowing these two comrades, the “Fourth Reich” will be as fascist as the first two reichs were. To these two, anybody to the right of Stalin and Obama is a “Nazi”.
Of course, a realistic project, such as depicting black flash mobs randomly attacking innocent whites, is out of the question. White people can only be portrayed as evil and nonwhites as good.
Congrats to J. Kidd and Sonya! Two really talented writers. Great to see this. Maybe some of the good ol’ American postings above can serve as fodder for an episode or two?
“Good Ol’ Americans.”
Message received, bigot.
Showtime is owned by CBS, whose news anchor recently compared the NRA to Nazis. Go figure that they would come up with this sewage. Best thing I ever did was to cancel Showtime and HBO.
Blarf!
Think I’ll be missing this one!
I am looking forward to see how George Jung, Boston George in movie Blow, talks and deals with the current day cartels.
When, o when will the liberal media finally show us something different? Hollywood has always portrayed the white man as bad and minorities as perfect, going all the way back to Birth of A Nation. We need to see stories about the crazy black/brown/yellow/Jewish mobs who go into the suburbs and attack us honest good folk. It’s enough to make me want to beam back up to that alien spaceship that brought me here.
Wow, this news really woke up the Whiny White Male contingent here at Deadline.
I rolled my eyes at the synopsis because once again white men are allowed to be “complex” characters even though the actions are reprehensible, and POCs are still in the background, or, in the case of this project more likely than not extras to get brutally beaten once in a while.
I don’t know why so many white guys here are whining. As usual, they get to have it both ways.
@ RLS Interesting point you raise about the essential agency of white characters often at the expense of other perspectives. Does the fact that the project was created by two writers of color change your opinion at all? To play devil’s advocate an similarly dark concept with brown people at the center would likely be deemed “too niche” or “urban” and never see the light of day, wouldn’t you agree?
Just what we need – more NAZIS on TV.
Just how much violence do the neo nazis cause in America? Howabout a series about gangbangers in the inner city? Black kids are killing one another at an alarming rate. Of course that wouldnt fit the narrative about racist white people.
Its proof white Nazis are not to be feared.If they had the nerve to be realistic it would be about blacks or Muslims.
I’m assuming you’ve never heard of a show called The Wire? Nothing more pathetic than white people bending over backwards to claim racism.
“I’m assuming you’ve never heard of a show called The Wire?”
Yeah – and HBO really broke its a** keeping that on the air, right?
Picked up by Showtime – Nope – too busy Shamelessly slumming or Californicating – or Weeding through Shakespearean adaptations, right…
…and golly, what race are all the leads in those masterpieces of degeneracy…hmmm…
You have heard of the Wire, right?
Did any of you watch The Wire or any number of movies about gangbangers and urban violence like Boys in the Hood or Babyboy??? What I don’t get is why you are so sensitive to the narrative of violent racists? Guess if you were to actually read some of the supremcists literature or listen to their music. Get some self esteem. I work and probably paid moe taes than many of you whiners but you don’t see me get offended about a movie about dangerous stupid black thugs because I on’t identify with them. So if you don’t identify with stupid violent racist whites then yo sholdn’t be offended. ?????? Hmmm.
“any number of movies about gangbangers and urban violence like Boys in the Hood or Babyboy”
If you can name more than three additional movies in that genre that H-wood opened over the last 25 years in 2000+ theaters (out of 4000 or so major openings during those 25 years) I’d be very, very surprised.
Make that 4 additional title – no way “Baby Boy” ever *reached* 2000 theaters…
(Btw – Baby Boy was actually a damn good film – but not consistent with the H-wood liberal narrative – that is why it was buried)
Wonderful. This from DeNiro — whose name shows up on the Gawker list of people licensed to carry weapons in NYC, and the incredibly hyper-energetic Rosenthal. No hypocrisy here. Looking forward to seeing their take on this.
Wasn’t clear if it is a series or a movie. Also who will star. But it sounds a bit like a political preach to me…
anything that pisses off so many people must be good!
No, what pisses people off is hypocrisy, something Hollywood has in endless supply.