Diane Haithman is contributing to Deadline’s TCA coverage.
John Stamos dropped by a TCA panel discussion today for NBC‘s The New Normal held on the set at
Paramount featuring the cast and executive producer Ali Adler (co-creator with Ryan Murphy). Stamos is guesting in an episode in which he plays a character of ambiguous sexual orientation (to explore the fallacy of “gay-dar”). Stamos was asked to compare today’s TV sitcom world — which can accommodate the “new normal” of a gay couple who are expectant parents via a surrogate — to his days on Full House. “It was three men living together in San Francisco raising a couple of kids. It’s the same thing,” Stamos quipped.
Ellen Barkin, who portrays the bigoted mother of the pregnant surrogate (Georgia King), said she was not surprised by the controversy surrounding the show (a Utah TV station has refused to air it). “It’s part of the reason why many of us got involved in the show, it was saying something that is not always said in a sitcom,” she said. Barkin last summer told Deadline she believes an affiliate has the right to ban something, but considers it censorship.
Joked Stamos with mock-smugness of the TV station ban: “They did get Full House. Cast members pointed out that fans in that market are viewing the show online.
Cast member Andrew Rannells said he has been gratified by the fact that so many young viewers have gravitated to New Normal. He attributed the phenomenon to audiences coming to the show from Murphy’s popular Glee.
Adler said she is gratified that examining gay issues has won praise from GLAAD but episode topics are “sometimes just life’s issues.” An upcoming episode, she said, will explore the topic of breastfeeding, which is “hard for two men to accomplish.”


I love this show, I think it is better than GoOn.
I hope NBC would renew it for a second season!
Can not imagine why anyone would find this funnier than Go On. Or anything for that matter. I tried watching it (the cast was decent, Bartha, Rannels) but after a few episodes I was just like, this sucks.
I laughed once. Mostly I found the whole thing really offensive. I seriously wish Ryan Murphy would just retire. He’s not funny. He’s a egomaniac.
your crazy its the best show ever
a lot of “comedy” shows on tv are not funny, not meant to have the actual ‘laugh’ factor. personally one of the most popular shows, ‘modern family’ has never made me laugh and i think it sucks.. can’t understand why anyone watches and why it gets so much attention..
i find the ‘new normal’.. kind of in the middle of being good compared to the others.. i was really hoping ‘go on’ would be funny but it didn’t work for me either..
two and half men was hysterical when charlie was on it.. i still tune in but it’s nowhere as good..
and i love ‘the big bang theory’
i also tivo ‘community’ and ‘cougar town’.. these are my favs
i think a lot of people tune into ‘the new normal’ to see nene leakes!
There’s nothing funny about this show. It’s on purely for political reasons to PUSH PUSH PUSH the gay agenda. It’s like preaching from the Right only worse…
This show stinks. It’s horrible. It needs to be off the air so better shows get a shot.
I don’t know, I must be one of a handful of gay men who just finds this show lacking in anything substantial. Like all TV shows, the hyper-reality is ramped up, but to a point where all the characters become bad stereotypes. Maybe I hang with the wrong gays, but none of my friends are even close to the ones that are portrayed here, and really, would never want to hang around with any of them because they’re all very toxic.
Murphy has made a success out of shows that look good, but have no depth. Glee’s first season remains its best, and has basically fallen into the rabbit hole of fantasy, jettisoning some of its realism in favor fake, syrupy story lines that make no sense.
His American Horror Story is more about pushing the boundaries of taste by throwing so much shit on the page and seeing how much sticks. Nine times out of ten, it fails to be memorable -just cray-cray (as the kids say today?), and thus less interesting.
But The New Normal fails to be anything less than bland, predictable and, ultimately, forgettable TV series that will leave no mark on the TV landscape. His casting of Nene Leakes shows what disinterest he has for actors in general, hiring a “reality” star who is really a cartoon. And as much as I adore Ellen Barkin, her Archie Bunker of the 21st Century is just as much as a cartoon as Leakes.
i agree for the most part
over all these shows need to be entertaining and well written.. and if they are not, then it doesn’t matter what the subject matter is, it doesn’t draw people to keep tuning in..
i prefer realism and this show isn’t really real on any level.. and i don’t mean realism in the story line.. we don’t expect that.. we expect them to be over the top or silly.. but some sense of realism in the characters..
i have more gays in my life than most gays have in their lives! and they don’t live there lives like this.. they b’tch, scratch, worry about paying bills, curse out slow drivers, watch sports, complain about their jobs, and all the normal stuff !
Wow. Some haters up in here. Yes, this show is stereotypical in every sense of the word, but Rannells is so charming and Barkin and Lekes are so ridiculous you just have to laugh. I don’t see this show getting another season, but I appreciate what it’s trying to do.
I am in agreement with David however I’ve never seen the show but if they’re going to cast that piece of trash from Real Housewives I have no interest in seeing it whatsoever even as a gay man. “Knock knock!: Ms. Leakes? your 15 minutes of fame is up!”
I think if anyone else had been behind this show (other than Ryan Murphy), this would have been an excellent show. I still watch it but it’s so unfocused. It tries so hard to have that rapid fire dialogue with quick one liners but it comes off very uneven and a lot of the one liners fall flat.
I DVR it and watch when there is absolutely nothing else left to watch. If I were a Nielsen, I’d stop altogether.
Does every other character on TV need to be gay now? Overkill.
Thanx for saying what I was thinking
Thanks for saying what I’ve been thinking.
@David Add Nip/tuck and Popular to that list.
One thing I’ve come to expect out of R M is a strong pilot followed by a few decent episodes and a quick spiral into mediocrity.
Yes, this is all part of some big gay agenda. Oooohhhh, scary!
Imagine what it’s like to be gay and endure decades of being portrayed as perverts, followed by a couple decades of being ignored, followed by the current times in which our mainstream media visibility is limited to wacky caricatures. Many thanks to RM for perpetuating gay men especially as being mostly vapid and melodramatic.
I find it hilarious that NBC banned anyone from Community and Parks from turning up at the TCAs because they feared that the press would write about those shows and ignore the crap they are currently peddling.
You don’t have to be gay to appreciate the show. It is about how to be a family.
Actually, the character played by one of the Housewives was not bad at all and I am not even a fan of the Real Housewives.
The TV set has become a big old preacher. Whatever program you turn on, you get as much if not more sermon than you get entertainment.
This show it’s great. It’s a comedy so yes the characters are going to be a little over the top. I think it’s a worthy successor to Will and Grace. Just because there’s no live studio audience or laughter after the one liners, doesn’t mean it’s a documentary or a serious drama, I don’t find this show trying to be anything other than it is, a light hearted comedy with some funny over the top characters. They just happen to be gay. I mean how ridiculous was Frasier, does that mean all straight people are like him? We should not be so touchy to be portrayed like this, no one is saying that is what all gay people are like. People need to lighten up, if you don’t get comedy then perhaps this isn’t the show for you. I find all the actors great in this, perhaps particularly the little girl. She is great, I couldn’t stop laughing when she was pretending to be Edie from Grey Gardens, classic
The show represents Ryan Murphy at his best–a messy genius. Like “Glee” and “American Horror Story,” I watch episodes multiple times because of the creative things that work better than any of the other banal TV offerings. Are his shows imperfect? Definitely. But “New Normal” is the first show that gives us a true look at a gay couple. It’s a landmark show from a landmark show creator we haven’t seen since David E. Kelley was hitting his creative marks with “Ally McBeal” and “Picket Fences.” And there are way too many shows about boring straight people. Bring on the gays. That last comment was over the top, but more as a rebuttal to the homophobic vibe from the comments. Of oourse, I’m a straightaphobe so who am I to judge?
The New Normal’s episode about choosing God Parents was honest and
beautifully-written. The scenes in the Catholic Church gave
Andrew Rannells the opporttunity to be a true actor, dealing with
a real problem.
The new normal is the best show ever. You really need to be able to relate to the plots to really love it. I think its great that there exposing gay relationships to children and teaching them to be open minded. Its the best show ever and I than RM for it.
Hey, I’m a heterosexual, 52 year old male, and I LOVE the New Normal. I am glad to see our culture’s change, albeit a very slow change, that accepts everyone. I happen to believe that we all fall in love with people, not genders.
Don’t shoot me, but I’m also a republican. Not all of us are all uptight. That leads me to the next comment, I’ll be glad to see when our culture begins to accept the less attractive of our society. I recently gave up my FOX News viewership over the hypocritical nature of two of the hosts and their comments. The fact that one of the others remained silent reminded me that silence is acceptance. They were discussing the Super Bowl commercial with the model kissing the guy they thought was too unattractive to kiss for even a million dollars!!! The lone democrat on that show says a lot of things stereotyping groups of people, and the two who attacked the unattractive market, jumped all over him for doing it, but it was OK for them to do it. I won’t mention names, but initials are KG and AT.