David Konow contributes to Deadline.
With the Writers Guilds West and East tonight presenting their awards to last year’s most respected practitioners of the craft, it’s a perfect occasion for Deadline to examine the cottage industry
of screenwriting conventions, expos, coverage services, and pitchfests. They’re supposed to help writers learn their craft and get their scripts out into the world. It goes without saying that this is a hot button issue in Hollywood. “Those who can’t write, teach seminars.” That’s what John August, screenwriter of Big Fish, Charlie And The Chocolate Factory, and Corpse Bride posted on his website under the category of ‘So-Called Experts’. As he further elaborates to Deadline, “Most seminars feel like scams, and pitchfests give me nightmares. I don’t know any movies that have come out of them. The important thing to remember is that pitching only means something when the person hearing your pitch already thinks you’re a good writer.”
Yes, the business of screenwriting will always attract shysters willing to prey on people with a dollar and a dream. Yes, there are many people who talk a similar rhetoric about ‘paradigms’ and ‘character arcs’ so it all feels like a con or cult built around scripting for showbiz. But some people must find it all useful, right?
Though it’s not clear when the industry around screenwriting may have started, but some feel it grew exponentially in the late 1980s after the Writers Strike. “The industry pipelines were dry and million dollar spec sales were the order of the day,” recalls Den Shewman, former editor in chief of Creative Screenwriting. “I still remember agents Alan Gasmer and Rob Carlson having some kind of uber sale competition, each scoring a million dollar spec sale a month.” Not to mention the big script paydays Shane Black and Joe Eszterhas which became the stuff of wannabe movie writers’ dreams. As recently as last fall, the well-known Black List launched a pay service for unrepresented screenwriters to have their work analyzed by industry professionals. Its first over-the-transom success story wasn’t: the scripter Justin Kremer (McCarthy) had previously been an intern there. On the other hand, Kremer had uploaded his script to the site and paid for a single read. When the screenplay got a high score, it was included in the site’s weekly member email spotlighting the highest rated scripts. After dozens of downloads from Black List industry members and more ratings from those who read it, McCarthy became the site’s highest-rated uploaded script. That’s when Kremer, who’d gone to NYU’s Tisch School of the Arts and graduated from the Dramatic Writing Conservatory at the State University of New York/Purchase, was signed by CAA.
It goes without saying to let the buyer beware when looking for a pitchfest, coverage company, or screenwriting teacher. “There were a lot of people in early 2000, even now, who decided to hang up a shingle and call themselves an expert,” warns Jim Cirile of the script coverage company Coverage Ink. “There’s 87 coverage companies out there right now. How many of them are run by people who’ve had a studio deal or have sold anything? How many of them are run by some college kid who figures he can make a couple of extra bucks by reading a screenplay?” InkTip’s Gato Scatena adds, “Before we allow someone to come in and teach at our seminars, we do vet them out and call referrals.”
It’s believed that pitchfests, where you meet face to face with industry professionals and try to sell your idea, started back in 1996 with the Writer’s Network. The argument for pitchfests is the supposed access you get to people who can potentially sign you or buy you. “It’s one thing to send out query letters. It’s another thing to literally get in an executive’s face and try to sell them on yourself,” says Cirile. “It’s a really fast way of opening some doors for yourself, and you get an unprecedented level of access.”
“Screenwriting is one art form. Getting out there and networking is a completely different art form,” says Gato Scatena, VP of Marketing at InkTip, a networking and pitching company. “Learning how to pitch, learning how to be comfortable in front of strangers, all of these things are important. It’s good to meet other screenwriters, it’s good to meet other executives, it’s good to meet assistants.”
Erik Bauer, who founded Creative Screenwriting Magazine, says the access you get to industry people at a pitchfest “would be very difficult for writers to arrange on their own. And some writers and filmmakers make good use of that access, showing trailers for their movies, and making contacts that helped them in their careers.”
Jack Epps Jr., who wrote Top Gun and Dick Tracy with the late Jim Cash, and who also teaches screenwriting at USC, says, “The expos that are well run bring in really good people, and it allows a very wide range of the public to take screenwriting classes. And for the cost, the access is pretty good.”
So those are the pros. But the first con is the costs, which can be $200-$500 a weekend and more if you’re traveling in from out of town. The second con is that pitchfests rarely produce made movies or even films in development. “I don’t think there’s been any big spec sales that’s come from any of these that I’m aware of,” says Cirile. “What happens more often is you make connections that help down the line.”
Joseph McBride, who teaches screenwriting at San Francisco State University and authored the recent screenwriting manual Writing in Pictures, says, “From what my students report, I think screenwriting conventions and pitchfests can be useful if the aspiring screenwriter who attends them is well prepared and cautious. Pitching projects can lead to contacts and, who knows, maybe even to a sale. At the very least it can help the writer hone his or her pitching skills. All that said, I’m somewhat dubious about the pitching process in general,” McBride continues. “If you don’t protect yourself, a pitched idea can be stolen. Pitches can be frustrating and a waste of time better spent writing, and much of the pitching process depends on the writer’s skills in schmoozing and making small talk, which are not essential skills in a writer’s toolkit.”
Brooklyn Weaver, founder of Energy Entertainment, believes the writer is more important than the pitch. “I believe in reading someone before they pitch me. As a representative, I find it a little bit ass backwards hearing an idea before I know if they have the tools to accomplish what they’re pitching to me.” Weaver also feels a better way to get noticed is to win a screenwriting contest. “Any contest,” he says. “You’ve got South By Southwest, Scriptapalooza, there’s 10 non-major writing contests you can win. It doesn’t necessarily have to be the Nicholl Fellowship.”
At the same time Weaver feels that “every writer needs to be able to pitch. As a writer, you need the tool of pitching someone, engaging them and holding their attention. I think comedy is a medium that, if you have a really good idea, and you’re hilarious and great in a room, that’s a platform where you really need to be able to pitch. But that’s much more subservient to being able to execute a screenplay.”
Can a pitchfest substitute for agency representation? Ron Shelton of Bull Durham fame warns that “young writers often seem more concerned about finding an agent than learning the craft. If you can write well, the agent will find you.”
As for the screenwriting gurus, the best known of the lot, Robert McKee, began teaching at Sherwood Oaks Experimental College in 1981, and started his weekend seminars in 1983. His best-selling book, Story, became a bible for many novice and professional screenwriters. Hard to believe it was published way back in 1997. Surely, in the interim, times have changed?
One of the biggest arguments against the teachings of McKee, Syd Field, and other screenwriting gurus is that they’ve helped make storytelling too beholden to rules and structure. Says Epps, “If people try to write to marks, you’ll write a boring story because the best stories ‘happen’. They happen because the writer feels it, he writes on instinct, and his instincts are deep. Whether you have this happen on Page 25 or have this happen on Page 45, it just doesn’t matter. I don’t know a single professional writer that writes that way.”
Epps continues, “While I think there’s a point where it’s helpful to understand the patterns, if a creative person tries to write to a mark, it’s like paint by numbers. How many paint by numbers are you gonna see in a gallery?”
At the same time, many feel scripters should know the rules before they break them, and Larry Karaszewski and Scott Alexander, the team who wrote Ed Wood and The People Vs Larry Flynt, would use traditional 3-act structure to fool executives into thinking they were following the rules, while sneaking in their own properly structured but wonderfully subversive content.
“Taking a class, reading a book, or being part of a writing group allows writers to create the movie that people want to see instead of write the movie they think they’re writing,” says Bob Schultz, co-founder of The Great American Pitchfest. “There needs to be a certain amount of clarity before you spread your wings.”
McKee addressed this topic when he spoke at the 2005 CS Expo, advising the audience, “I can’t tell you what to write or how to write it. I can give you the principals of the form, and you have to figure out how to create a story. If I were teaching chemistry and one of my students is Jonas Salk, and the other is the guy that invented DDT, am I responsible for Jonas Salk? No. I taught him chemistry. Am I responsible for poisoning the world? No. The bad, formulaic movies that come from Hollywood ain’t my fault. I can teach people the craft, but if they mis-use it to sell their souls, that’s not my responsibility. I just teach the chemistry of story. You have the ethical choice of what you want to do with that chemistry. You want write something of real quality, or do you want to whore out? You just have to be honest with yourself.”
Now for the argument everyone loves to debate. What can somebody who’s never sold a script teach about screenwriting? In the case of McKee, he has written one feature title which was made: Abraham, which played on TNT in 1994. He also wrote several TV episodes (Spenser: For Hire, Double Dare), and has sold a lot of scripts that never made it to the big screen. An example of a respected teacher with no made movies is Jeff Rush, who taught Andrew Kevin Walker (Se7en) at Penn State. As Den Shewman says, “This is a hot topic that gets adults screaming like cranky toddlers. I take the unpopular opinion that someone who is not a great writer can recognize and teach great writing.” Adds Bob Gale (Back To The Future): “I love to use baseball analogies. Tony La Russa who just retired as the manager of the Cardinals has one of the greatest managerial records in baseball. He was also a lousy baseball player, and he’d be the first to admit it. But he had an appreciation and knowledge of how the game was played, and he saw it in a way other players didn’t.”
In the early 1970s, Gale took Irwin Blacker’s USC screenwriting class. (So did John Milius of Apocalypse Now fame.) Gale believes he benefited greatly from Blacker’s teachings. Blacker didn’t have the most prestigious credits in the world. He wrote a feature called Brushfire, he also has five TV credits listed on IMDB from the 1950s and 1960s, and he was also reportedly a story editor on Bonanza. “But he truly understood the rules of drama and he was able to communicate that,” Gale emphasizes and adds that if a screenwriting teacher hasn’t gotten a script produced “that’s not a reason to not take the class. I understand that there’s a class where you’re supposed to write an entire script in 4 to 6 weeks. That in itself is really valuable. Spending money to force yourself to do is like hiring a personal trainer who shows up at your house and makes you do the exercises that you don’t have enough discipline to do on your own.”
True, the industry built around screenwriting was hit hard during the recession. The Creative Screenwriting Expo went under along with Creative Screenwriting magazine last year. But Writer’s Digest put together an expo last fall. The Great American Pitch Fest is still doing strong business. And McKee grumpily marches on.


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Beware of losing half your day reading all the commentary below, written by our beloved writers who can’t shake the need to incorporate a three act format into a comment box.
It goes beyond this, and gets scuzzier. I’ve had a number of clients come to me over the last few years who had the rights to their projects mcked up due to these “coaches.” Some of these teachers use the classes to scout out promising screenplays and then trick the students into signing horrendous attachment deals that attach the teachers as producers. These attachments as written can go on in perpetuity and are probably not enforceable, but you try to fight that as a struggling young writer. Don’t believe me, one of last years’ Blacklist scripts (that ended up getting all the major agencies to go aft the writer) was tied up like this and we had to use some fancy legal maneuvering to break free.
so, to sum up . . . yes
Pulled yourself out of Norma’s swimming pool, I see, Joe.
A brilliant article, and accurate from every vector and subjective from each one. A zillion years ago back in the early 90′s a close friend (*who for two decades has been my manager) paid for and sent me to take personal classes and one-on-one training from John Truby; and subsequently through John was mentored by one of his highly regarded and award-winning friends, Laurence Heath (Triumph of the Spirit/Murder She Wrote) It was invaluable in giving me clarity and power by handing me tools and tactics (rather than laws) to bring my writing up to a new level. A COMMERCIAL level.
My manager then sent me to an AFI pitching course taught by Bob Kosberg. That, along with my own writing skills, gave me what I needed to move forward and start a career that was meandering rather than highly-focussed. It was more valuable than years of university and my natural writing skills + cocaine just wasn’t doing the job for me back in the 90′s for some reason
Who knew?
The combination of being able to “pitch and sell” myself and then “deliver the goods” was greatly due to those episodes in my life. I agree with your article that if you ‘pitch like the devil’ but can’t deliver the goods the project might not get made with YOU but it could get made. I am convinced that great writing alone MIGHT POSSIBLY find a home but it’s pretty hard with 4 billion people now thinking they can get into the film industry with a laptop, internet connection, and an idea. So it’s essential to have the skills to navigate the obstacles, handle the rejection, keep improving your craft and finally narrowing and redefining your goals so that your script WILL find the right people and you’ll be able to convince them that YOU ARE THE GUY OR GIRL TO WRITE THE STORY!
Fifteen years later in 2006 I brought John Truby over to Australia for a sold-out boutique tour through Melbourne and Sydney, and some of those people who attended (and many who didn’t) have been coached by me in pitching and packaging their projects and bringing private investment to the table and there are over a dozen projects in various stages (many with talent and $$$) that would NOT have materialized without “Hollywood style” screenwriting coaching and/or pitching and packaging coaching and mentoring.
So are the screenwriting coverages and pitchfests and the like scams? Probably some of them. Just like personal development seminars. Some people benefit, some don’t. But they probably don’t ‘harm’ anything and if anything, even the worst ones might ‘open some eyes’ or foster some connections that could be career-making down the road….IF the person has the skills, talent and ambition.
Sometimes they just need a bit of hope, or bit of help.
I hope you teach your students to make their pitches shorter than this.
What is a would be screenwriter to do to get his work out there?
It is easier now more than ever to “get your work out there”.
You’re on this site so you obviously have access to an Internet connection. Imagine life without that.
You want to get noticed? You want an Agent? EASY. Very, very easy. Win a Nicholl Fellowship. Heck, win any of the other reputable contests.
How do you do that? Write a great script.
How do you do that? Stay off the effing Internet and write your ass off.
Why do some Nicholl recipients have agents BEFORE partcipating in the contest then?
When was the last Nicholl winning script actually made into a “great” movie?
It seems like the handful of Nicholl scripts that were actually produced turned into just average quality films – and that’s at best.
I get really sad when I see all of these people talk about great writing is all you need. I know they want to keep their enthusiasm up about their aspiring screenwriting career with self-delusion but try to be a little real – it’ll certainly help your writing!
Marvin Acuna and the Business of Show Institute (better known as BOSI) are the one worthwhile very excellent exemption to this.
Marvin is the *only* consultant who has real credits with Tom Hanks and is proven to succeed for his clients in every way, from coaching and cuch-holding to making connections and making sure your deal gets DONE.
The real deal!
Seriously?
Kathleen, actually Marvin is NOT a consultant at all and anyone who has actually worked with him personally knows he is nothing but a snake oil salesman with a great hard-sell delivery that feels like he’s forcing you to spend more money. He didn’t PRODUCE anything -he got a producing CREDIT, which is much different. His newsletter is great and valuable – and free – but mostly because of some of his columnists and their experience. But Marvin is not a script consultant, nor will he read your script or give you notes. Know your facts!
Marvin is a total scam. Its sad, he was once and up and coming giant.
I came here as a wannabe 12 years ago, now I have a series I created going into its fourth season. When I got here, I went to some of these things, at first with the hope of being “discovered.”
But I later realized one of the things that happens at these things is you see the borderline between professional and fan. You listen to actual professional speak and begin to recognize the things that are real, the expectations that are sane, the behaviors that will actually serve you in creating a career. Like the industry wants skilled writers with strong voices (even if just to piss on, lol) — but any given idea is probably not the precious gem you imagined. There aren’t many new ideas, just good takes from good writers.
It’s difficult to get in the door. The chance to stand in the lobby and listen to the people inside tell you a few things about how the world really works… well, yeah, that’s worth something.
At this point, is film school also a scam?
Are filmschools also a scam? Mostly yes.
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Depends. If that film school has to constantly bombard people with advertisements, like say… Full Sail, then it’s definitely a scam.
Great question, JJ.
Here’s my perspective – film school is the biggest scam of them all.
Nobody will write such an article because to attack high level institutions (we all know them) would be journalistic warfare.
But, I’m going to go even further, college/university in its entirity is a scam today. The tuition is way over the top and the return on investment, especially for recent graduates, is horrible. This is the next big bubble. People are getting more and more schooling, in the hopes of getting jobs or better pay – and where are these good-paying jobs for them? Hey, knowledge is great and a fancy degree is nice but it’s not helping the millions in debt who went to get a high level degree and can’t find work.
This is coming from someone who attended one of these elite institutions by the way. What I learned from there, was that it’s how much money you have and who you know that determine success IN ANY FIELD – not your intelligence or work ethic.
Just about every executive I know has been a “professional” at a pitch fest once very early in their careers. You go thinking it’s going to be something great, but it turns out to be excruciating and not helpful to either end. (Notice how I said we only go once.)
Good article.
You should do one on the rise of screenwriting contests as well.
An imdbpro account and a damn good query will get you much further than any pitch fest.
I like Pitches. They’re easy. No script to read.
BS Sturn
I used to write books about these folks – four different versions of the Writers Guide to Hollywood, for example. I either interviewed or covered (via experience) every major “guru” out there. Irwin Blacker was a book I recommended back then (mid-90s); people could still learn from reading that book. Lajos Egri was even earlier, never wrote a script, was based in playwriting, but writers swore by him.
Syd Field got a standing ovation at the Writers Guild with his book because no one had ever quite codified the structure most folks were using. I never was crazy about McKee because he’s traditionally an absolute jerk to anyone who tries to have a decent conversation with him at a seminar – at least no one’s ever told me they have, but I’ve heard plenty of horror stories.
I helped put together the Hollywood Film Festival and helped Carlos deAbreu do his subsequent pitch weekends just because I liked to help writers – I never made a dime on any of that. When I was doing those Brooklyn Weaver was great, and the first few years of the Creative Screenwriting annual get-togethers were pretty solid.
Then I started learning that many gurus haven’t even written a script, like Linda Seger, and there was a time when a whole lot of development folks went into the guru business when the business took a downturn. I got sick of the whole dog and pony show and was making a living writing books other than Hollywood advice, so I just let the whole thing slide, quit speaking (for free) seminars for Gary Shusett at Sherwood Oaks, etc.
But here’s the real deal on all of it – people provide ACCESS to these out of town folks. They learn to pitch in a short time – elevator pitches if you will. I laughed once when an established screenwriter told a crowd at a deAbreu pitchfest that you should never ever do a pitch less than 15 minutes for anyone, then they walked into the next room to pitch and no one would give them more than five minutes (which I told them would happen).
I also laughed reading two quotes from the InkTip guy – that was started by Jerrol LeBaron, a $cientologist who as far as I’m concerned only got into it for the money (most $cientologists are only into anything for the money). InkTip makes endless claims about efficacy – try tracking some of those “big deals” down some time.
In sum, there are plenty of people who have good advice who have, like myself, actually sold scripts, been staff writers, etc. What any aspiring TALENTED person needs is guidance about form – I tell people I can teach them craft only, but craft nurtures talent. Once they have that, they need access, and pitchfests are a long shot, because most prodcos send the lowest person on the totem pole to hear the pitches.
On the other hand, people who do reads for the Nicholl are usually people with legit credits who hope to get a leg up on a chance to discover someone.
It’s just too damned bad there’s no Schwab’s Drugstore still around (I remember it), but has Hollywood ever been easy? Never.
In the late 80s and through the 90s these consultants were more valuable than now. The simple reason is that Hollywood today runs 98 percent by virtue of connections. It’s cliche, but making it as a writer is now almost entirely based on who you know. If you want to be a writer and don’t have connections and are not good at networking, you should give up tODAY and find something suited to your skill set.
I haven’t met a writer in seven or eight years who has made it based on his or her writing skills. It is almost completely based on getting hired or landing a top agent because a friend or relative hires you or makes an introduction.
Kids, it is one fucked up business. If you want to succeed as a writer in hollywood there is virtually no chance you will make it. But, if you want to try, put down that laptop and get your ass to a gym or bar in Beverly Hills and try to befriend someone important. If you’re good looking and personable your odds of succeeding are much greater than if you are the next Michael Crighton talent wise.
I got in on writing, not connections.
That said, you have to have the goods AND get them in front of someone who can do something with them. That’s a very tricky combination to land. Especially as the business becomes ever more incestuous.
Bull. Being Lew Wasserman’s second cousin gets you the meeting but if your script sucks then it’s over. On the other hand, a truly fantastic script will always find its way to the right people since they’ll know it will make them money. This town runs on money, period.
Great point, The Skinny.
Everyone in the article and in the comments section talks about the “people you meet that will help you down the line” at these conventions and fests – I couldn’t laugh any harder when I read that crock. Do people really believe some guy you meet at one of these things will even remember you several years down the line, let alone be in the position to help you? If he or she could help you, do you think that they’re going to help some wannabe they met for a few hours at some crapfest or will they help a relative, best friend, or “friend of a friend” ?
Let’s be real people, be smart and don’t get conned out of cash.
Also, wouldn’t it be more helpful to interview people who actually went to the scamfairs rather than the people who run them? Can you find at least five people who found success directly from one of these things out of the thousands who attended? We all know the answer.
Most people who find success and attend these events would’ve made it anyway – they became successful because of who they are, not where they went.
This is simply untrue. If you write a great script or a very commercial script the doors of Hollywood will open for you. Yes, it is helpful to be good-looking and be able to schmooze, but there are literally dozens of lit agents at the top agencies (CAA, WME, UTA, ICM are the big four in that order) and if they think you are truly talented they will shamelessly maneuver to work for you. It may take a while, but true talent will out.
I was an assistant to a great guy in the MoPic Lit Dept at two of the agencies you mentioned. You are 100% right and The Skinny is 90% wrong.
The 10% I’ll give Skinny is the access networking might — MIGHT — provide you. Other than that, IT IS ALL ABOUT THE WRITING and Skinny clearly doesn’t want to hear that.
The amateurs are the one’s asking “How do I get an Agent?” and the rest of us are the one’s that know that question really means “Where’s the shortcut in?”
Indrid Cold,
I have 22 years in the business and have watched it change and sadly, you are wrong. Based on your verbiage in your Deadline posts and the things you write about, you are well into middle age. Hollywood has changed, and unfortunately it is now a big club. I’ve sold projects based on merit (in the 80s and 90s) and based on friendships (everything post 2002) and you would not believe how insular and cloistered the writing game has become. It is all about who you know.
You see the problem with all of these comments is the word “great.”
What is a “great” script? Was Transformers a great one? How about Twilight? What is your definition of “great” or “talented”
Hollywood talks a lot about talent but why do most of the products stink then? And this is by most industry people’s own admission.
“Talent” or “good” or “great” plays no role in Hollywood. If you were to say, nepotism isn’t the decided factor but PROFIT is, then I’d at least be more understanding.
But please don’t say great writing makes it – because if Hollywood movies is an example of greatness then this whole world just got a lot more stupid.
ABSOLUTE HORSECRAP.
“You need connections!” only comes out of the mouths of people with minimal to no talent.
Write something great and success will follow. Period.
What “the skinny” is saying is absurd. If he thinks that every writer in Hollywood is working because they “knew somebody” or has an uncle that runs Paramount — he’s fooling himself. Don’t listen to “the Skinny,” Kids — he’s obviously a frustrated writer who’s blaming everyone but himself that he’s not successful. Every Hollywood writer made it because they “knew somebody?” come on — that’s silly.
I knew Nobody, I have no relations in showbiz, and I’m successful because I worked my ass off, took every single opportunity that was offered to me, including often working for free, and did I say — worked my ass off? And (I’ll admit) I had a little luck.
Sure, there’s some nepotism in Hollywood, but those guys don’t last long, unless they’re genuinely talented. Nepotism’ll get you in the door, but if you don’t do good work, you’re right out the door again. Most of the writers working in Hollywood are the writers who worked their ass off. I’ve been in the business 20 years — the guys I know who are still around are the ones worked hard, all the time, for years and years. The ones who fell by the wayside either had too much ego, or frankly, were too lazy.
You wanna make it? Good luck — you’ll need it. My advice: work harder than the next guy. Write all the time, be hard on your work, always be getting better at your craft, take any and every opportunity you gets –and always be writing, always be writing, always be writing. The only thing that “the Skinny” saids that’s right is:
“If you want to succeed as a writer in hollywood there is virtually no chance you will make it.”
That’s true. There’s a lot more people who want to write than there are writing jobs. It’s a tough door to get in.
I have a net worth well into seven figures, almost all if it from writing. I’ve written movies and TV shows that you have likely seen and that have done very well, for the most part. On the contrary to what you assert, I have found that the “Rah-rah, go get ‘em, anyone can do it!” posts are typical of neophytes or those with limited success trying to encourage themselves. You sound like a Robert McKee or Blake Snyder revival meeting type bullshitter.
But thanks for weighing in.
Ha!
IMDB me, my anonymous pal. I never said ‘Rah Rah.’ I said work your ass off, it’s not who you know it’s how well you write, and it’s Still almost impossible to make it in this business. if you’re a millionaire from writing, skinny — is that because you “married a producer” like you told that woman to do, or because you hung out in bars in Beverly Hills? If that worked for you — good for you. But it’s lousy advice to give aspiring writers. Most of us made it through our hard work and talent.
My advice, and people are asking for advice on this comment board: is Work hard — talent rises to the top. with TONS of work, a little talent and a little luck, you just might make it, but don’t expect anybody to hand you anything. Hell, if I can make it — college drop-out from Tennessee with NO connections — anyone can make it.
and yes, I’ve written for free. often. Especially when I was starting out. I Still do – specs, friends’ stuff, unofficial “producers drafts” — if you’ve never written for free, then you’ve never worked for a studio. If sean thinks me writing for funny or die, or doing “one last tiny round of notes” for free, for a studio is lowering her/his paycheck, I’d love for you to explain to me how. We’re not making tires, Sean — we don’t get paid a wage — you get paid based on how much money you’ve made the studios. It’s fairly straight-forward.
anyway. when i was coming up, there was no internet — and a lot of the advice i got was bogus, from people who’d never actually worked. and saying “how hard you work or how talented you are doesn’t matter” is bogus advice.
who are you, skinny the millionaire? you ain’t james cameron, I’m guessing.
Chicken Sandwich, Carl!!!!!!!!!!
Dear Writers:
Read the above comment and look no further.
Thanks for working for free. Rest of us really appreciate the lower paychecks.
If this is the same Robert B Garant of Reno 911! and Night at the Museum fame, y’all should listen to him instead of The Skinny, who is the type of person Martin Starr’s character on Party Down is a spot-on parody of.
That would be Coverage Ink, not “Coverage.” Thanks, David – great article.
It’s never been easier to learn how to write a screenplay the best way is to read as many scripts as you can and there are literally thousands of scripts on the web there are dozens of sites with hundreds of scripts for you to read and learn from.
Cinestory is legit. Good people.
Gotta be Disciple Program
I don’t get it, doesn’t brooklyn and his former boo marshall hip pocket everyone through the door? Isn’t THIS article just going to feed their beast to those outside the bubble?
Best way for a new writer to get noticed, get represented and get a deal? Even in this market? WRITE A GREAT SCRIPT. When you have the goods, the rest takes care of itself.
It’s a game. Prove you’re in, and I’ll think about it. Tough, tough business if you can’t network. Impossible if you’re talented, but socially backward.
Beware of James Webb Hunter III aka Jim Chase. Scam artist from Alabama living in Los Angeles.
I had an extraordinary introduction to Hollywood in the 1980′s. There was no advice for aspiring screenwriters back then. You just banged at the gate and said “Let me in.” If they let you in, that was luck. I didn’t know what a pitch was. When the head of CBS Entertainment invited me to “pitch” him, I said, “That sounds rude. I couldn’t do that.” “What could you do?” he asked. Well…I could have a conversation.” He invited me in for a “conversation,” and assured his helpmeets this wasn’t a pitch. Consequently, I was hired to write one CBS and two NBC sitcoms, which I did, and then bumped up to feature pitches. I was horrible at it, as I still didn’t understand what a pitch was. I annoyed the hell out of George Roy Hill, who asked me to submit screenplay ideas then complained, “You are bombarding me.” I was. I see it plainly now. I was let “in” because of the good office and enthusiasm of my agent, who thought I was from Mars and considered that a good thing. I thought I was normal. Maybe I was just average. Who knows? Offering story ideas before it became so regimented, so theorized, so reduced to formula and “advice,” was piece of good luck. Later, I tried to give advice to other writers, all in good will. I was pretty good at structure and form (the result of being a Southern storyteller; I just picked the lint out of my bellybutton). I helped a few writers, not all. I would have helped them all. I shared contacts innocently. I didn’t understand the idealogical wall that separates the ernest, fresh writer from the Hollywood marketing apparatus. If you get naked, and run at the barrier really hard, you might clear it and get hired; however, you might break your leg and get a snout full of mud and grass. Luck makes the difference. Somebody sees you and says, Wow! Unique vision! Right or wrong, it makes your luck. In one LA week, I had 30 meetings (excuse me, I “took” 30 meetings), and everybody wanted my firstborn, and I curled up into a fetal ball and couldn’t think of a thing to offer/sell. Later I sold a few spec or feature development scripts, a handful of MOW’s, then grew weary of being pegged by my early efforts. Still later, I explained my folly to hopeful screenwriters. But there are more, 10 years later, talented and still trying, who haven’t had the luck of being noticed. Well, what can I say? We all have to keep trying at whatever pulls us forward, whatever inspires us, whatever makes us dream big, until inevitably the herse comes. Condolences if it chances to be screenwriting, for many are called and few are chosen. Well, actually, we aren’t chosen. We just stumble in on cue and somebody believes in us. They might be mistaken. Or not. Luck favors the prepared, or so I hear, so I can’t apologize for trying to prepare others. But Art is an inexact Science. Or something like that.
Yes.
I mean ALL script weekends etc are a scam, or useless.
I am a produced screenwriter. If I had my career to do over again, I’d be a writer-director and I would produce my scripts, my way, and go the film festival route. I still think that’s the best way to break into Hollywood. Having said that, everything I have accomplished is strictly through networking, meeting people, pitching my work, being lucky to get a couple of them to actually read my stuff. I don’t see what unproduced writers have to gain from these “Pitchfests.” or seminars from writers who have no Hollywood credits. Sooner or later, you’ve got to move to LA and you’ve got to start meeting people. Everyone is connected to someone. It took me four years to move up the creative chai. I don’t have any particular talent, but I’m eeking out a living. You can, too.