

Once Upon A Time creators Eddy Kitsis and Adam Horowitz are bringing in top-notch writer-producers to help them mount a proposed Once spinoff for ABC and ABC Studios. The studio is closing overall deals with Prison Break alum Zack Estrin and Once consulting producer Jane Espenson that would cover their services
on the spinoff. Details about the spinoff are being kept under wraps but I have learned that it takes place in Wonderland. While the original idea was to use Once‘s character of Mad Hatter to transition to the new world, that plan was ultimately dropped. I hear the story will now be told through the point of of view of Alice, who has not appeared on Once, surrounded by several new characters. According to a casting breakdown released last week, they are Amahl, described as exotic, soulful and optimistic; and The Knave, a sardonic adventurer, a man of action, a loner and a heart-breaker. The spinoff takes place in a post-curse world, though, like on Once, there will be flashbacks, so we could potentially see familiar faces, including Barbara Hershey’s recently departed Cora, who was the Queen Of Hearts in Once‘s Wonderland.
I hear the idea is to air the spinoff in 13-episode season arcs with a beginning, middle and end, similar to FX’s American Horror Story, possibly bridging the fall and spring portions of Once. Kitsis and Horowitz handpicked Estrin and Espenson to help them with the spinoff after the two pitched the idea to ABC topper Paul Lee and got a thumbs-up. Kitsis and Horowitz are currently writing a 15-20 page, four-scene presentation with input from Estrin and Espenson. Production is slated to begin April 7 in Vancouver, immediately following the season wrap of Once there. If the project goes to series, Estrin is expected to run it with Kitsis and Horowitz, while Espenson, who has been a key member of Once’s writing staff since after the pilot, will likely return to the flagship drama, which Kitsis and Horowitz will continue to run. It is not clear how the Once spinoff would affect NBC’s modern-day Wonderland pilot from Anthony Zuiker, which was pushed off-cycle before ABC’s plans for a Wonderland-set Once spinoff surfaced.
For WME-repped Estrin this marks the second consecutive overall deal at ABC Studios. Under the most recent one he served as showrunner on ABC’s The River and Zero Hour. Battlestar Galactica alumna Espenson is with CAA. Once is one of ABC’s top series and a big DVR performer. Season to date, the fairytale drama has averaged 2.98 rating among adults 18-49 in Live+Same Day and 4.34 in Live+7, a 43% jump.
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THE RIVER and ZERO HOUR! Those were like my two favorite shows from the past five years. Masterful longform storytelling. They should just give him a lifetime overall deal after those.
The River should’ve been renewed!
Zack did well handling fantasy on ‘Charmed’ and will do well here. Congrats!
Pass. They should be focusing on fixing the unevenness of Once before starting another show
No kidding – the writing on OUAT started to suck as bad as their visual effects. Here’s an idea: take the money you’d waste on this needless spinoff and invest it in some VFX and a staff that can actually write a solid story without all the convoluted nonsense and soap opera cliches.
I’ve got to concur – Once is turning into Heroes – great start and solid talent in front and behind the camera – but losing it’s way FAST. My wife has already given up on the show and Mr. Gold/Rumple practically looks bored at this point. Killing off Cora was a bare minimum change that was needed but they need to do something cool with the “outsiders are coming” thread soon or I’m jumping ship too.
Sounds awesome. The 13 episode standalone American Horror Story model is one of the most exciting developments to happen on TV in years. I can’t wait to see what the talented masters Kitsis, Horowitz and Espenson can do with it (I don’t really know Estrin’s work, but I liked Prison Break, so yay!?)
Congrats to the Once team. There were some rough patches in the middle of this season, but they’ve really been on a roll lately. This sounds like an interesting way to spin off a show that hasn’t really been tried before. It’s a cool world, and I’d love to see it get bigger.
And presumably NBC will now kiss goodbye Anthony Zuiker’s already-pushed exact same pilot…? Not that either of these is a good idea anyway.
I like to think that people like Jane Espenson would be creating amazing television shows if we didn’t have a studio and network system intent on making crap like this.
Have you seen her web series, Husbands? Trust me, she’s not.
Estrin? Seriously? Zero Hour. Cancelled. The River. Cancelled. No Ordinary Family. Cancelled. The Good Guys. Cancelled. Somebody has a voodoo doll in their closet.
If its a sorta mini series in between OUAT break then I’m in, if not prob not
Sounds interesting, and I would probably watch it.
But the ratings for Once Upon A Time do not justify a spinoff.
The folks running that other WONDERLAND pilot must be reading this and just absolutely RAGING.
Too bad for them–ONCE has been in and out of Wonderland since the first season. If they didn’t take advantage of that parallel world they’d be idiots. And ONCE needs something to keep its ratings up and its audience engaged. They took a hit this year with weak material but their more recent episodes have been on an upswing, not that the numbers reflect that.
Jane Espenson is wonderful. Excited for her and us: more Jane = more good stuff to watch.
Zack is a great guy and producer and he should do well on this project. Congrats!
I look forward to Estrin’s original material.
I love ONCE and this sounds pretty darn cool! If they do bring the Mad Hatter in, even as a supporting character, they’ve GOT TO cast Sebastian Stan or it’ll flop. He MADE that character. It was one of the most intriguing and interesting storylines of ONCE.
Guess this explains why ABC Studios pulled the rug out from under NBC at the 11th Hour over “wonderland.” Why help your rivals when you can kill their project and put your own version on your network. If I’m NBC, I’m seeing this as a shot across the bow and double down on my project. Can’t get pushed around and more than they’re already being in the ratings.
this might work as a mini series, maybe have Cora in flashbacks. It will be interesting to see who is in charge of Wonderland with no queen of hearts. Maybe Stan can appear if it is pushed to next Summer.
At first it’s a recasting of the Mad Hatter,..then “No we’re not recasting.” Now no Mad Hatter at all?… Do I understand this correctly? Where do you get that Oncer audiences will watch? And how can you have a Wonderland without a Mad Hatter? If it’s post Curse Wonderland then there will be no Cora (Queen Of Hearts) unless in flashbacks, which means Cora & Hook have to find another way to leave Wonderland if there is no Mad Hatter or Hat. So your response will be “Well they didn’t say there wasn’t going to be a Mad Hatter, they just said they dropped the idea”,.. OK which means they are going to recast the part, right? Unless the Hatter will only exist in the narrative? Well I love Jane Espenson, so good luck & break a leg Jane!
Ok was giving this a chance but now I see that it will take place in POST curse world…. The only reason I was slightly excited about this was for the chance to see Barbara Hershey as Cora again!! But I might watch for Jane’s writing because Jane is the best!!!
They don’t make people OR writers like Zack Estrin anymore. Not only is he talented, but he’s also considerate, hilarious and a real mentor. To the person that said he worked on failed shows — you clearly have never worked in the television medium. GREAT shows get cancelled by the dozens. How many successful shows have you worked on again? Don’t mess with Zesty!
Word. Zackie is tops. A+ person and producer.