James Cameron and Fox today did not get their request for a total dismissal of Bryant Moore’s $2.5 billion lawsuit claiming that Avatar was stolen from his scripts. The defendants did get some legal traction when federal Judge Roger W. Titus granted a motion Monday to dismiss the breach of implied contract claim in
Moore’s 2011 suit. However, he did not dismiss Moore’s copyright claims in the hearing in the Southern District of Maryland over the 3D blockbuster. The ruling means the jury trial-requested case will go forward, with discovery to occur next during the next four to six months.
Moore sued the director, his Lightstorm Entertainment and Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation on December 19, 2011. The writer claimed that copies of his Aquatica and Descendants: The Pollination screenplays made their way to Cameron in 1993 and 1994 through Lightstorm production assistants. Though Moore says he was eventually told the company did not accept the submissions, he found “striking substantial similarities” between his scripts and 2009’s Avatar. Cameron has said in court filings that he had Avatar mapped out in a detailed scriptment before any such materials by Moore were submitted to his company. Moore is seeking $1.5 billion in profits and another $1 billion in punitive damages.
In their motion to dismiss filed last September, Lightstorm’s lawyers state the Moore’s claims “fail because there is no substantial similarity between Defendants’ motion picture Avatar and either of Plaintiff’s scripts and because Plaintiff failed to plead the existence of any implied-in-fact contract between Plaintiff and any Defendant.”
This is the third such Avatar suit Cameron has seen have its day in court in the past few months — though the last two ended in his favor. In September of last year, Cameron and Fox prevailed over a copyright infringement suit from writer Elijah Schkeiban, who claimed Avatar was ripped off from his novel and subsequent film script Bats And Butterflies. In January, the director won a summary judgment in a suit from Gerald Morawski, who also accused Cameron of ripping off his ideas to come up with the movie.
The defendants in the Moore suit are represented by Gregory O Olaniran, John Matthew Williams and Robert Rotstein of the Washington DC office of Mitchell Silberberg and Knupp. Moore is represented by Donald Melvin Temple of DC’s Temple Law Offices.
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Let’s just assume for a split second, that “striking substantial similarities” between Moore’s script and the Avatar script are evident. It takes a directors vision and will power to make a movie like Avatar happen at all. Asking for a billion (!) dollars+ damages is insane and dumb.
Let’s just assume for another split second, the Bryant Moore fellow would have written an Avatar screenplay, he would have gotten some 500.000 to max 2 Mill for the screenplay. (The guy has no to none film film credits to his record). Plus a bonus of another 2 Mill maybe. And now he’s asking for billions in damages???? INSANE.
I bet you anything, if Mr. Cameron would read an intriguing great script, he would simply buy it. Hell, he’d have the studio pay for it.
Worse thing about those law suits, it becomes more and more difficult for new writers to pitch or even submit, any new material to established producers as it is.
I’m pretty sure he’d take a settlement in the six figures. the $2.5 bil is just more frightening. Why not go all the way? It’ll just make the settlement amount higher.
C’mon Hollywood steals all the time from people.
The most prolific producer recently spoke at a writer’s conference. His EXACT words: “I’ve had my scripts or stories stolen at least 5 times in my 20 years in Hollywood.”
And in my twenty years in Hollywood I’ve had ideas or scripts I’ve worked on that someone else got set up or made. They had the SAME idea and were able to get it to the right people before I did.
Does that make them thieves? No. They just had the right combination of timing, elements and execution. You can’t copyright an idea. Nor can you copyright elements of a story that any other writer would most likely come up with when presented with the original idea.
I have yet to see an example of direct theft. There’s too much to lose and lawsuits are too easy to file. Sure, I’ve seen elements of scripts I’ve worked on with writers wind up in other scripts they’ve written — setpieces, jokes, etc. But never the CORE idea. It just doesn’t happen, unless you’re dealing with the true bottom-of-the-barrel element in Hollywood… which means you’re not really dealing with Hollywood.
If you really think your idea was stolen, sue. But be prepared to lose unless you know the law and can prove it without a doubt. I have yet to see an example of direct theft
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In the year that I spent as a script weasel, the slush pile included no less than eight sweat-soaked efforts that were ever so slight variations on the same basic idea, right down to the principal character roles, actions, etc. Not a one of them was worth anything beyond the first courtesy read.
It’s called “synchronicity” or “kismet” or who knows, go ask a lemming (before they take the plunge). There’s a good story here in how ideas seem to wash through a culture with no apparent inciting incident.
You can’t “copyright” an idea, but you can protect it if you’re going to pitch it. See: WGAw. If there is a paper trail that leads to the director or producer – you will have a strong case. Cameron got nailed years ago for stealing “ideas” from a few of Harlan Ellison’s “Outer Limits” episodes in order to create, “The Terminator.”
Cameron and his team aren’t denying access to the scripts according to the court record. That combined with the coincidences makes one go “hmmmm?”. Cameron has a blantant record of “borrowing” ideas and calling them his own only later to say he was influenced by outside sources. Cameron should just release his shooting script for Avatar and all of this goes away. Apparently he refuses to do so but he will be forced if the case goes to trial.
Cameron’s listed as writer on every film he’s directed, and a few he didn’t. Avatar, Titanic, True Lies, Terminator 2, The Abyss, Aliens, Terminator, he wrote them all. Whatever people might think of his skills, it’s pretty clear the dude’s a writer.
I doubt he sits around reading other people’s scripts to consider for his own projects.
You mention Terminator. Cameron ripped off Harlan Ellison for Terminator – which is why the movie has a title card that “acknowledges the works of Harlan Ellison” and why the production company had to pay an undisclosed sum to Harlan.
So this lawsuit may have merit since Cameron is a known plagiarist.
Cameron has a huge ego. He acknowledged that he took Ellison’s ideas in an interview slated for Starlog. Pressure was put on Starlog from Hurd and Cameron and that particular comment was omitted before printing. Later, Tracy Torme was on the set of the “Terminator” and he asked Cameron where he got the idea for the “Terminator” and Cameron smirked and replied that he simply “took ideas from Ellison’s works.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwyyJ3D3g1E
Exhibit A why no one will ever read your unsolicited screenplay. Too many scammers and opportunists.
Why stop at 2.5 billion? Why not ask for the court to appoint him King of Scandinavia? And while he’s at it, he should also demand the power of flight.
One of the saddest things about this is picturing this poor shmuck sitting at his kitchen table saying to his mom “If he just settles for 1% of what I’m asking, it’s 25 million!!!”. And a lawyer whispering those words in his ear as well.
Having recently had a similarly frivolous lawsuit against me thrown out, I can safely say I will NEVER read or try to help another writer who is unrepresented.
Gone are the days where you read something and say, “Hey, I like this but it needs work. If you like my notes, let’s work on it and see if we can get it set up.”
No more gentleman’s agreements.
No more “we’re both working towards the same goal.”
It’s an ironclad deal memo protecting me or nothing.
And it makes me sad, especially since I’ve been doing this for twenty years — in some cases to great success — and often with first-time writers and directors.
But given that I had to spend nearly $40k in lawyer fees defending myself against a case that was summarily tossed by the judge because it was INSANE, I have no choice.
Should move your LLC to Austin, TX. Gotta love a “Loser pays” state.
Besides, he’ll need to get in line behind the writers of Pocahontas, Dances with Wolves, The Last Samurai. The only thing original about avatar was creating new meaning to the phrase, “getting some tail…”
I have huge respect for Cameron’s work as a writer and a director. But for those whose (very logical) argument is “Why would someone with Cameron’s means rip off another writer’s work and risk a lawsuit? It would be far cheaper just to buy the script. The fees would be miniscule to a man of Cameron’s wealth” I offer this story:
I have a friend who submitted a contest-winning script to Lightstorm. A development guy there told him he had to make changes to the script before he would take it to “Jim.” My friend did at least two complete rewrites–no option, no writing fees.
I told my friend he shouldn’t do the work unless they at least optioned it, but he didn’t want to risk pissing off the people at Lightstorm.
My friend is a good writer, living in near poverty. Even a modest option fee would have made a big difference to his circumstances, while it would have been nothing to a man with Cameron’s hundreds of millions of dollars.
I doubt that Cameron ripped off Avatar, mainly because it’s pretty openly a mishmash of existing science fiction tropes. Hell, even “Unobtanium” sounds suspiciously like “Upsidaisium” which will be familiar to Rocky and Bullwinkle fans (Google).
These people are pathological when it comes to money. That they would rip off a script to save a couple of hundred thousand dollars doesn’t make sense. Unfortunately, that doesn’t make it any less likely.
You know what else “would have made a big difference to his circumstances”? GETTING A DAY JOB!!!
I busted my tail to get where I am writing when I wasn’t working so neither I nor most anyone else like me want to hear anything about your friend’s “near poverty” — HE CHOSE IT!
MAN do I just want to slap some people and their sense of entitlement sometimes…
This is so wrong-headed I don’t even know where to start. What makes you think the writer in question didn’t have a day job? Does it seriously blow your mind that someone could have a “day job” and still be living in near poverty in this economy? In a place like LA? Especially with the kind of crappy day job that allows you to seriously pursue an insanely difficult craft, for years on end, cranking out scripts and taking meetings. You know what kind of job allows you to live comfortably in LA? A career. You know, medicine/law/finance. The kind of things that make it tough to take meetings during the day and write at night. The jobs that allow you to do those things do not necessarily keep you out of poverty in a market like LA. Go talk to the 40 year old aspiring actor cater waiter about how cushy his financial situation is because hey, he has a “day job.”
Being able to write a single good script (no small feat, admittedly) during your nights and weekends does not make you a writer capable of functioning at the studio level. That takes YEARS of work and meetings and learning the business inside out. Sorry, you can’t do production rewrites while working a “day job.” When studios and studio-level producers refuse to pay writers for the years it takes to develop this skill set, it has nothing to do with a sense of “entitlement.” Sorry.
Amen to that Hobbled.
I’m surprised Roger Dean never sued. All the CGI infused worlds look like something aped off of a Yes album cover, especially Yessongs.
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I doubt it was stolen also but Cameron did lift Terminator from a short story, was sued by the writer and the writer won.
Writers deserve more respect. Too many studios expect writers to do everything for free — pitch, rewrite, etc. before they even option. The system is broken. Way back in the day, they paid writers salaries in the studio system. Now what do we have? A bunch of Execs (who often are peddling their own projects and are wannabe writers) expecting writers to do everything for free. It’s the only industry that operates like this. You don’t call an electrician out to your house and tell him to do work for free. What does the WGA do? Zip. Once it starts happening and is condoned then it just happens more and more.
A friend of mine had a rep who sent him on a studio assignment gig. He got the gig to write a treatment BASED ON THEIR IDEA FOR FREE. WTF??? What do you need a rep for when this kind of crap happens!!!
Oh, god, I’d hope not! With linguistic skills like those, who needs an editor?
Mix a SciFi motif with “Emerald Forest” (1985) and you get substantial similarity. Any other examples? How about posting the “Aquatica” screenplay to the internet so everyone can decide??
Cameron stole Terminator from two TV episodes of Outer Limits written by Harlan Ellison. He then bragged about said theft in an interview to Starlog magazine. When Cameron realized what he had said, he insisted his remarks be cut from the published version of the interview in Starlog. Fortunately, the interviewer was a friend of Ellison and sent the author the original transcript, which became the basis of a lawsuit. Ellison now gets a credit on Terminator for this reason. When your career begins this way, it tends to dog you always.
And look how many lawsuits Ellison has launched since then. Based on his actions, I’d say he believes that any Sci-Fi concept he incorporated in the 60s is completely off limits to any other writer for life. The problem is that there’s only so many Sci-Fi concepts. Time travel, artificial intelligence, aliens…there’s only so many variations you can make on these elements. Any successful writer in this genre, if being honest, will tell you the same thing.
Just look at all of the post-apocalyptic sci-fi thrillers that have sold in the past decade. They’re just recycling the same elements in a ‘new’ mix.
In other words, it’s the execution, not the idea. And I’m a screenwriter.
Harlan’s a parasite. Do your homework.
Considering 1) the unedited Starlog magazine interview in which Cameron admits taking ideas from a few “Outer Limits” episodes. And, 2) The fact that Cameron admitted to stealing the idea from Ellison’s works to Tracy Torme (while he was visiting on set)… Harlan had a very strong case. Do your homework.
No wonder my Avatar 2 stock at HSX has fallen off the cliff….
Cameron movign to New Zealand? –Wozniak also?
–other Hollywood and media Globalist pimps heading
for Bollywood?
One and all want to get on the –other– side of
that GE Fukishima cesium plume —-and the
coming Globalist—-RED China handover and
POST American take down op.
BEWARE