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NBC‘s Smash wrapped filming of Season 2 last night, with several cast members taking to Twitter to report the news and post a photo or two: Megan Hilty, Debra Messing, Katharine McPhee, Andy Mientus, Jeremy Jordan and Krysta Rodriguez. But some tweeters wondered whether messages about “closing another chapter” might also imply the ending of the show. After a promising beginning last year, Smash has been troubled. Josh Safran replaced Theresa Rebeck as showrunner and the show’s focus was adjusted. Guest stars such as Leslie Odom, Sean Hayes and Jennifer Hudson also joined for multi-episode arcs. Ratings on its new night and without The Voice lead-in have not been great and last week tied the series low, which probably doesn’t bode well for a Season 3.
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Ratings “have not been great”? That’s like saying Chris Brown “might have some issues with women.”
Lol what?
I’m absolutely in love with this show i would hate to see it be cut short. being a working dancer i completely feel for the actor and actresses on set and this is a huge break for some of them. they all work very hard and are all extremely talented and amuse me more and more every week, as well as the choreographer who is a friend and I know has worked so hard to get to where he is. the show is a realistic outlook on the industry itself and i appreciate everything it stands for and know that the rest of my family along with many friends as well would agree. I hear nothing but positive feedback about the show and see no reason for it to not continue through a third season. i love it so much and look forward to it every week i would be so upset to see it come to such an early end.
I agree! This show made me love Broadway even more! It’s what I look forward to every week. I sincerely doubt rating are so low that they have to cancel it! It’s a damn good show. Just cancel The Voice or something…
Ratings not great?!? What else do you expect when The Voice is not on the air?
The show is getting way too expensive to produce and the ratings are not justifying the retaining of this program for a third season. NBC should cut its losses and cancel this show effective after the season or series finale in may. Las Vegas was canceled not because of low ratings but because it cost a pretty penny to produce an episode.
Yeah, it should be replaced it with another cheap and boring “reality” show. You get what you pay for… Must be why Smash is the only show on NBC I watch.
I have loved the show from the beginning and sad to see that it might get cancelled…it seemed to do better on Monday night led in by Bachelor/ Dancing With The Stars
Smash is on NBC. Those shows are on ABC.
The actors will have seen the ratings and worked out that the writing on the wall, just like everyone else.
The powers that be at NBC are boneheads! Why would you move this show to Tuesdays?? You have lost half your audience with that move! Theatre people don’t work on Mondays when Theatres are “dark”. Why would you move this show when it was doing better on Mondays??!! Not surprised, this is the same network that canceled “Harry’s Law” (their top rated show)because young people didn’t watch. This is why you are 4th in the ratings!! There are monkeys that would make better programmers! BONEHEADS!!
Actually, Harry’s Law was not their top rated show, it was their most watched show, as in viewership..
But to everything else you said, yes. Not a clue why they moved it to Tuesday’s when it was doing so well.
It’s very sad too, because the show is really good.
regardless, you don’t cancel your most-viewed scripted show no matter how low-rated it is. that’s just dumb business.
How is it bad business to cancel a show that loses you millions?
No – the show was really good last season once it found itself. However, this season is just horrible. NBC ruined it! They made dumb mistakes, and hired a CW guy who crapped CW storylines all over it. Too bad – I really loved last season – but this thing is done. NBC is a friggin disaster – time for changes again!
Exactly! They took a great show and totally ruined it. Last year was really great, aside from Ellis, but the music was just fantastic. I listened to it all year. This year is a train wreck. I am not even too psyched about the music so far this season. I don’t understand their thinking. I am reasonably sure it won’t be back. We are very very sad!
What is the difference between top-rated & most-watched?
Top-rated: 18-49.
Most-watched: Total viewers.
Most of HARRY’s viewers were in that over-50 group that advertisers stupidly think have no money or free time.
Because Revolution is doing vastly better on Monday.
Advertisers don’t pay for old people.
because advertisers are morons.
their agencies are morons.
and the industry is idiotic for continuing to base itself on an outdated methodology and flawed mindset that values younger viewers who don’t watch TV over older viewers who still do.
Plus, our aging population is buying a LOT of crap, and the twenty-somethings are having trouble finding work.
Of course it should be based on age, there is a reason advertisers care about the age of the audience watching their ads.
You could have ten million people over the age of 60 watching the show or 3 million ages 19-39, which do you choose?
It’s obviously the latter for the simple reason ads might actually have an impact on them. A 60+ year old man sees an ad for new Ford car do you really think their spending is going to change? No of course not they will stick with the same company they have been with for years while it might have an impact on a younger viewer.
Obviously that not the best example but it’s basically what advertisers care about. They aren’t going to buy ad space for a bunch of people who their ads won’t impact.
Yeah I agree older viewers are watching television more over younger viewers because of the internet but advertisers also realize an ad will sway a younger viewer a lot more then an older viewer. Older viewers aren’t going to change their spending habits like a younger viewer would.
Amen to what Sparky said below. It’s laughable to hear younger people repeat an outdated myth that older people won’t try new things. Maybe it’s younger people who need to open their minds to the idea that today’s middle-aged/older people are very different from those of forty years ago.
That whole myth originated in the 60s when ABC, then in last place, needed a way to distinguish itself from the other two networks. So they came up with the idea that even though they had fewer overall viewers, they had more younger viewers. In the 60s, when the baby boomers were young, it made sense. Now that the baby boomers are older, there’s *still* more of them, and they have *more money* than younger people.
As for car brands, yeah, sure, sweetie. Since he turned 60, my Dad’s had a Lincoln (a Ford brand), then a Jaguar, now a Mercedes. And you mofo fools don’t want to advertise to him???
The old logic about only younger people being open to new products is so old and decrepit it’s insane. Fortysomethings and fiftysomethings are so many of the early adapters of new products today – and have more money to spend.
Madison Avenue and TV need to get the memo on that. Real, real soon.
I guess the advertising industry is a multi-billion dollar industry because of those morons. Hmmmm … I wonder who sounds like the idiot now!
And Revolution is now coming back after a long time off, Bet that audience is gone too.
If every theater person in the world watched “Smash” on Monday nights it wouldn’t be enough to move the ratings even one point. All theater people combined would only number in the thousands. The show needs a mainstream audience in the millions. The season premiere of “Duck Dynasty” had 8 million viewers.
Nbc•••where formerly good programs are turned into absolute crap…
I have loved this show since the very beginning and still do but have to admit that were it not for DVR I wouldn’t. What was NBC thinking moving it to Tuesdays?! There is way too many other hit shows on already that it has to compete with!
It makes me sad to think it won’t get a 3rd season but it does look that way.
Tuesday has far fewer hit shows than Monday and Parenthood was doing perfectly fine there. Smash has about half the ratings Parenthood was getting all on its own. Leave it on Monday it has the Biggest loser as a lead in and has to compete with Castle and H5O. I don’t think it would be doing much better in any other slot unless it had the Voice as a lead in. Part of the problem is that without the voice and football NBC can’t get one show to do better than a 2.1 or so in the demo and 6 million viewers with many many shows well below that.
The show’s premise, while good, was executed poorly -almost from the pilot on. The storylines were dull -and how many times have we seen them as well? The cast was unappealing and there was no hook -beyond the signing (which, unless you are creating a variety show, which it was not, it was the only thing good about it. That happened on GLEE as well).
Perhaps NBC and the Tinkering Executives® doomed the show because they have some directive in which all the life must be leached out of any premise that airs on the Peacock, or the show was weak from the get go, designed to cash in on GLEE effect and no one realized the leaky premise would not hold up week after week.
Or, perhaps, it was Debra Messing emoting like every episode was going to be the one that wins her an Emmy for drama.
Everything you say is astute and accurate – except for the show’s premise being good. Backstage at a musical about Marilyn Monroe? My eyes rolled involuntarily as soon as I heard about it.
I’m going to disagree that the cast is unappealing. These people are actual Broadway stars, you know. Megan Hilty is gorgeous, starred in 9 to 5 and Wicked. Christian Borle has been in countless hit stage shows has won Drama Desk and Tony awards. Jeremy Jordan was concurrently starring in Newsies during early episodes of Smash. Debra Messing unappealing? Jack Davenport unappealing? You’re nuts! These are people who know how to act, know how to sing, and know how to please an audience. I personally think the main problem with this show is the writing. When you can’t make Jeremy Jordan remotely likeable as a character, you need to rethink your ability to make this a hit show. Early season 2 episodes tossed in WAY too many new characters at us for us to care – Jennifer Hudson, the dramaturg guy, Jimmy, Kyle, Ana all came at us way too fast. And, please, keep Megan Hilty singing in every episode for crying out loud.
When your story lines appeal to no one except homosexuals, you aren’t making it on Network TV.
Not all homosexuals watch the program.
Have you ever stepped foot in New York?
There aren’t enough Gay people in NYC to keep a Show going for years. So being an idiot doesn’t help your case. Have you ever been to a Broadway Show ? But I will agree with you that it should have been on cable
“When your story lines appeal to no one except homosexuals”
Uh, idiot: I love this show and I’m not gay.
Appeals only to homosexuals? What an ignorant comment. I am 40, female and married, as are my 3 friends who also love the show. I’m their target demographic.
Just a few rules you must abide by before you are allowed the great honor of airing your program on our wonderful & well-respected network. Number 1) If your program is doing well,we reserve the right to move it to another night so as to take care of that. 2) We are allowed to “tweak” your program as we see fit in an effort to “improve” it. 3) We can remove your program from the air for 1,2,3 or 4 months at a time & expect ratings to remain the same or even go up upon the return of that program. We are currently employing our 3rd. rule with Revolution & expect everything to work out just peachy keen upon its’ return sometime this year.
The More You Know.
Another fail for WNNNNNNNNBC and the inept leadership and lack of taste from the out of touch Bob Greenblatt. How many shots does this guy and his exec band of idiots get? The funny thing is the moment that Greenblatt is pushed out or forced to resign, he’ll have a huge producer deal and start programming for NBC. That’s what is primarily wrong with this business. It rewards failing up and up and up! WNNNNNNNNBC!
nothing on NBC can survive without “the voice” because NBC itself can’t survive without “the voice” because they relied too much on it in the fall to make it through the spring.
tragic.
Chicago Fire is the exception. Prove me wrong
I agree. The only reason why the Voice is doing so well is because of its “sugar daddy” the super bowl. If the voice wasn’t leading revolution they would have no new hit shows.
The real fault lies with America’s TV viewers, who’d rather watch a gaggle of no-talent amateurs on countless talent competitions than some of the finest performers from Broadway. Or as the saying goes, “This is why we can’t have nice things.”
Umm… “closing another chapter” means “we finished shooting another season.” The idea that anyone working on the show was proclaiming its death is, at best, mere speculation. And while the show may very well end up getting cancelled, using such speculation to warrant a news story is astonishingly shoddy journalism. Nice work, Deadline Team.
That would leave a gaping hole in my television viewing. Shame on N C Vain if that is true.
Smash is too mild. It’s like a high school show. The musical numbers aren’t strong enough. The MARILYN story is geared toward the Wednesday matinee Granny Squad.Nobody else cares or even references her life and problems. The REAL Broadway is almost all based on who you know and who you let ‘know’ you. Everybody else works cruise ships or theme parks. Talent they all (almost) got…’daddies’ & ‘mommies’ they don’t. You want to know the REAL Broadway??? Why don’t you grab a real veteran, like Elaine Stritch and ask her? If that show wants ANY chance to survive, they better crush bones and draw blood.
First mistake: Moving it from Monday 10pm to Tuesday…Monday is the night show people have their day off…Two: the story and characters from first season were not great..only Anjelica Houston was likeable…the musical numbers were not great compared to Glee…if you are gonna do a flashy show like this you need to commit money and good story telling…I heard they mistreat the background actors in order to save money and karma comes back to bite you…
I LOVED the first season of Smash. I looked forward to watching it . Season 2 shows signs of network tampering. For people like myself who liked the show, it has been destroyed. Characters have been added that have nothing to do with the original storyline. Why Jennifer Hudson’s character was added is beyond me. Other than ratings of course. The young asshole who we are told is the next Jonathan Larson, is a better storyline if they want a younger demographic. But who would put up with this guy ? I miss Megan Hilty. She made the show for me, and also made a far better Marilyn.
NBC’s record 5th place(not 4th) is due to one per ad on…Robert Greenblatt. Fire ROBERT GREENBLATT! Wake up NBC
I think it’s fixable. Only seen the first two episodes but it felt like they dumbed it down for kids. These should be adults having adult problems. That’s what I liked about last season. You keep it paired with “The Voice” you see the hard work that goes into a show business career (at every level from nobody to billionaire – except for Julie Chen and I have no idea why) as antidote to the click-your-heels-three-times variety. Everybody complains about how there is no music on MTV. You sell that you can get it here. No MTV – no David Fincher. The problems at NBC are about mysterious scheduling choices made for short-term-thinking program selection. The network seems quixotic, mercurial, not-in-control, desperate. I miss the old television seasons and I think a lot of other people do.
Nbc truly is a disaster. It truly takes vast amounts of skill to fuck up to the level that they do. Even if someone set out to fail(on purpose) they couldn’t mess things up as much as Nbc has. This is a supposedly “major” network,but,so far,the only thing major about Nbc has been its’ mistakes & failures. Doesn’t ANYONE speak up at meetings/whatever and say “hey maybe that’s a bad choice,or,”we shouldn’t sign that pilot because it sounds terrible”. Can’t Greenblatt & company really grasp what has happened to this network? I mean,bad program pick-ups,horrible scheduling of programs,&,removing programs(such as Revolution) for what seems like an eternity. You know,the optimist in me would really like to believe Nbc will begin making good decisions for the upcoming fall season,but,the realist in me tells me they will continue doing stupid things & making unbelievably stupid moves. To me,that is really a shame because this was once(a long time ago) a successful #1 network. It’s difficult though to have any real sympathy for the plight Nbc is currently experiencing,because,the fact remains that Nbc has noone to blame but themselves for their current dreadful state of affairs…
I was still somewhat young when Revolution went on that hiatus•••I’ve actually had a birthday since then…
I tuned in to season 2 to see what the new improved Smash would be. Oh. More Karen is God and Ivy is the Devil. Yawn. I gave it another chance anyway. Now two whole episodes without an Ivy song?
I’m done. Goodbye Smash, you blew it.
I agree with everyone here. I especially miss Ivy-time.
I was ok with the first season even tho it had problems. This season is awful. I can’t stand Kat mcPhee. The move to Tuesday was stupid stupid stupid.