There’s so much current programming that’s available for free from online pirates that it “could put the whole [pay TV] ecosystem at risk,” Macquarie Equities Research’s Tim Nollen warns today. His report follows what he says was a “quick and dirty Google search” to see what he could find. To his surprise “practically everything that’s popular on TV can be found instantly” from torrent sites such as The Pirate Bay and cyberlockers listed in Letmewatchthis.com. For example, he found episodes of FX’s Justified, TNT’s Dallas, AMC’s The Walking Dead, History’s Vikings, and CBS’ The Big Bang Theory less than three hours after they aired. He also was surprised by how slick some of these sites have become. “In terms of usability, it’s difficult to tell the difference between iTunes or Netflix and the smoothest-looking illegitimate sites.” About 70% of U.S. homes have broadband service, giving them the ability to download an hourlong show in about 42 seconds — and lots of people already use that power to watch shows for free. Pirate Bay is more popular among U.S. Internet users than sites from The Washington Post, Best Buy, and dating service Match.com.
Nollen fears that what’s now just an annoyance for pay TV is about to become a big problem. The music industry saw that piracy “reached a tipping point” when it became “truely convenient to acquire and manage a large catalog of songs.” Now, many young people could “ditch pay TV for pirated content” when they set out on their own. If they can borrow a TV Everywhere password from parents or a friend, then it becomes even easier to watch current shows without paying. That also could damage streaming services such as Netflix and Amazon “where the studios currently derive the majority of their digital home video revenues.”


Thanks for the tips on where to download stuff! Going there now.
Three hours? That is an eternity in terms of how quickly this stuff is online. I can download the new episode of Shameless and House of Lies within 2 minutes after it airs. Hell, the new episode of Californication comes out a week before it airs. I’ve already seen this weeks episode. Game of Thrones, The Newsroom, True Blood, Dexter, Spartacus, etc., etc., are all online usually within minutes of airing. This ism’t just for pay tv networks. This goes for shows on ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, CW, and all of the most popular cable networks. Almost all shows are online, without commercials, within 2 minutes. I could cancel cable altogether if not for live sports, and WatchESPN is starting to make me rethink that.
it took you this long to
figure it out?!!!!! no wonder the industry is screwed. figure out a way to make money off of these wonderful sites (advertising) so people don’t have to steal it. there is no other option
The recording industry refused to allow digital sales until pirates forced them to the brink of extinction. The video entertainment industry better wise up and offer content as cheaply and conveniently as digital music does, or they’ll be the next industry in crisis.
Last study I’ve seen referenced said the number of tv subscribers is upwards to 95%. If as many people pirate TV shows as is being claimed, that means a huge percentage of them are also pay TV customers which means they’re not receiving access to the content in the proper way. Granted some of them may be downloading TV shows not part of their plan but a lot of the top downloaded ones are free over the air. This seems to be more of an issue with lack of a supply to a demand. Digital offerings are still in infancy and are laden with draconian DRM.
A-la-carte programming.
$1-$2 per episode. Offer extras (added footage, cast & creative interviews, etc).
Work it out however it makes sense, but to do nothing is an ostrich like fail.
I agree with ala carte, but pricing has to be variable and creative, because $2 and episode is probably too expensive. Big users should be discounted.
If they made it available that fast then pay tv wouldnt have a problem. You can’t tell me they couldn’t post to Hulu or their own sites ect within 2 hours. Make it easy to get to content and quickly and you won’t lose money.
Give the people what they want when they want it—they’ll pay you for it. Offer convoluted websites/advertising traps and you drive them away. Not rocket science.
what this clearly means is that the networks need to step it up and make these programs available for LEGAL ad-supported online streaming faster than the following day.
Does this report mention that the pirated services are so much easier to use? So much of the official legitimate streaming on places like Hulu and so on often doesn’t work very well because of buffering and technical issues. Try watching a show on NBC.com and see what happens. They’ll show you the same commercial 5 times in a row and then your show won’t load. I think most users would tolerate the commercials but buffering problems are driving people away.
EXACTLY.
TOTALLY TRUE!!!
my golden rule: I would pay for it if I could afford it.
sorry you can’t afford it, but your sense of entitlement is sickening.
Totally agree. Why is it ok to steal content?
So happy that the Pirate Bay guys went to prison.
This required an analyst report?
In addition to being cost- and commercial-free, the internet files typically play smoothly on any device, do not degrade during peak usage times, are available prior to broadcast in many time zones, do not require an ongoing internet connection once downloaded, and do not require any special software or updates.
Compared to BluRay, playback starts instantly, as opposed to after several minutes of mandatory software updates, optical disc loading, unskippable trailers, and frequently unnecessarily annoying menus.
But perhaps most importantly of all, the internet files do not discriminate on the basis of country of residence. For many non-US watchers, this is their one and only option to see the programming while it is still relevant. This also ensures there is a large international population who will continue to invest their personal time and computer resources into making sure these files are available.
The cost issue gets the most focus, but a lot of progress could be made by at least evening out the other factors. People will pay for content as they are able to do so but its a much tougher transition to get them to make if it also requires a huge step down in the quality and convenience of the viewing.
They offer it far faster than 3 hours, try 5 minutes lol
Letmewatchthis.com seems to be down. SideReel, however, is still there and going strong.
How is this news to anyone? Their system needs to change or they’ll find themselves broke.
I contend that if the industry worked harder to deliver these shows online, cheaply, instead of blocking the market, they wouldn’t have a problem. Most people are willing to pay for their favorite shows at the right price, progressively, depending on what each household can afford; paying the cable companies, however, is another matter. Cable is far too expensive, most folks simply can not pay $3 or $4 every day for television, and you can’t even buy HBO unless you buy comcast as well, that’s a huge barrier.
If Justified, for instance, were on its own web site a week after airing, with some ads and an easy way to donate what you felt like donating to keep the show going, with full transparency, the industry would remain healthy. Take a look at kickstarter, each production company could put together several innovative revenue collection paths and be just fine. If I’m wrong on this make that argument because I’m not sympathetic to the save the dinosaurs argument.
And, yet, with all this new technology, studios offer “anytime, anywhere” viewing with Ultraviolet, digital copies, etc., so who needs to pirate anymore?
These studios aren’t that stupid as they look. They are literally trying to get rid of the physical discs so they can block the fair use of their products.
This article appears to be written from a pretty skewed perspective. It discusses the tipping point for the music industry, but fails to mention that the music industry is still quite profitable (http://www.uproxx.com/technology/2011/10/pop-didnt-eat-itself-why-piracy-didnt-destroy-the-music-industry/). The music industry just had to change their business model to match the real world demands of their customers (and maybe give up on DRM that would treat all customers like de facto criminals). Music was further helped when the industry dropped their awful distribution models and let the market innovate and sell their music the way that customers actually wanted it. Similarly, if video content was offered in the mode that consumers want, I’d bet dollars to donuts that piracy would be greatly reduced, practically eliminated even. Instead, the cable providers ram their legacy model (e.g. forced bundling) down consumers’ throats at their own peril. How much longer can they milk their legacy infrastructure? How much longer will it hurt the talented people who produce the content?
I cut the cable over a decade ago, and have gladly started paying for recent services that are delivered in the way that I am willing to pay for (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, etc). Unfortunately, networks like HBO have left me with no legal way to acquire their content without cable service (which also means bundling and subsidizing networks that I do not want). People like me will either continue to not buy HBO’s service or pirate their content. Either way represents an identical loss to networks like HBO.
you could also not steal our work. You pay when you go to a restaurant or a grocery store, you don’t steal food; you pay for you rent, you’re not squatting a basement, so why is it normal for you to steal my work? Do i come to your office and steal your product?
Answer his question before you rant and rave next time. He wants to know why there is no legal way to watch HBO and other pay channel shows following their relate like there is with most other TV shows.
And secondly this falls under fair use if done correctly so downloading a TV show is not illegal.
I don’t condone piracy or pirate anything myself – never have, never will – but changing the business model is a good, creative solution. The music industry is now based on touring. You can’t pirate a tour.
Similarly, streaming movies and TV (which is where it is all going) could have a business based on building a community and charging a modest subscription (a la Netflix). You can’t pirate a community.
The movie industry will also still have the theater business for the big tentpole movies. You can’t pirate a movie theater.
I get what you are saying… You can’t pirate the movie theater experience. As far as the films themselves, cams of the most recent theatrical releases are on the internet, usually by the end of opening weekend.
Just one year ago, say, the comments on a post like this would have been damning, spitting damnation to content “thieves” and so forth. Now look where we are a year or so later– nearly everyone so far is asking the studio to be smart and reasonable about their business models.
And yet the studios won’t be. Because it’s more comforting to have these so-called, half-brained entertainment analysts (I mean, dude just discovered this??) producing reports about things corporate entertainment execs should know professionally.
No one is trying to threaten anything. The evidence shows that DEMAND IS AT AN ALL TIME HIGH. Stop being such goddamned freaks and take care of business. Sony v. Universal is real. SUPPLY US, d*ckheads.
Today accessing television shows online is very much how it was with Napster, its easier to get the programming illegally than it is legally. In a world where only HBO cable subscribers can watch HBO programming, where their shows aren’t even made available on iTunes, people who don’t own a TV have to resort to watching pirated programming.
What isn’t mentioned is most of the illegal programming, which is available online almost directly after it airs, is instantly streamable, and this streamable content often has built in advertisements to pay for the stream. This should be a wake up call to the networks. TV is slowly becoming the past, and they should adapt to the times. Instantly streamable content online is the future.
I get why the online delay is happening – they are trying to protect (and honor agreements with) the current content distributors (i.e. broadcast affiliates and cable). But this delay is going to cost them in the long run. Once it becomes “acceptable” to pirate the shows, like it did with music, it’s going to be more difficult to get those pirates to pay.
I think that a lot of these “pirates” use these downloads as a form of time shifting. I think that most of them don’t feel like they are doing anything wrong when they are probably paying for the TV service anyway via a cable, satellite or even an antenna. Obviously, one of the problems is the lack of advertising support in the pirated versions…so why not release files with the ads included and knock out the middlemen (Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, etc)
I know of a few sites charge a fee to get HD clear PPV. Most are out of UK. For a fan to pay $10 or $5 instead of $45-65 it becomes a bargain. Networks like CBS limit the shows Available to watch on their sites. Hulu cuts up some programming .
How do the pirate sites make money? I appreciate any insight into this.
Some serve ads or sell access. But there’s also plenty that are run mostly as non-profit hobbies, sometimes with donations taken to defray server costs. For a smaller, private BitTorrent community (where the site itself is not streaming any videos, just hooking members up to each other), the resource requirements can be modest.
this question puzzles me too…
but if you go to pirate bay, they call themselves “promo bay” sometimes – promoting new and young artists – that’s a very very smart thing to do on so many levels, they are faster and more creative than their “legal opponents”, plus they have a lot of sidebars and pop-up ads for online gambling and porno-chats… obviously ))
Ads all over the sites + paid directly by filehosts per download sometimes (since that usually involves pop-ups).
Google makes money from adverts, for a start – not sure about the other pirate sites though
why do people think it’s legal to STEAL our movies and tv shows on a website mostly for film and TV professionals? This is not the piratebay bulletin board. I make these films, i employ hundreds of people, i have to pay them. If you’re a cook in a restaurant, you would lose your job if everyone eats for free because they have the right to eat, they’re hungry; you would be fired and your store would close if you’re a salesman at the Gap and everyone just takes the clothes for free because they have the right to have clothes, it’s cold outside. Why are people justifying stealing because they don’t have hbo, or cable etc?… You don’t steal cars, clothes, food! Don’t watch till you have the money! I have a honda, not a ferrari and i wish i had a ferrari i just dont go steal it. I don’t have HBO, sure i wish i had every channel of the world, but i make movies so i don’t steal my colleagues’ work. If you can’t buy hbo, then don’t watch boardwalk empire. Stop stealing our work!
You are reaching way overboard here. First off studies have already shown that people who download copyrighted material are more likely to buy CDs, DVDs, and Blu Rays than those who don’t.
Secondly some of this falls under fair use. Like for example if I go onto a website and download a movie from lets say a a file sharing website like fileshare(not even sure if that is around anymore) that is legal because of how technology is updated. It is basically today’s version of taping something and letting your friend borrow it.
Also this does not give the right to have your studios spy on people and then send them threatening letters to their ISPs. The new Six Strike program is a joke but on top of that it is illegal. Yet no outrage from you on privacy rights being violated.
The fact that I bought a car doesn’t give me the right to steal one. Unless you also buy the CD/DVD/whatever of absolutely everything you have illegally downloaded, you are a thief.
You keep spreading those one liners however they don’t help your argument. If we use your logic it would also be illegal for me to tape a television show on VHS or even DVD recorder and let a friend borrow it. However the courts have ruled that is perfectly legal. This is the same thing but with updated technology.
The world is changing, Tom. You had better start pressuring the distributors your work with to make this content available online legally. Or you’re going to wind up like the music business. Wringing your hands and wailing about stealing isn’t going to get you anywhere.
I got hooked on The Walking Dead. Watched seasons 1 and 2 in a short span through Netflix last summer. But I can’t watch Season 3 on AMC because my kids are awake at that time of day and it’s not something I can watch in front of them. So I have to wait months for it to be available on Netflix, while half the earth ruins every twist and surprise from this season.
I have on several occasions considered downloading the current season’s episodes via one of these sites, but have so far held out… Having each one available online shortly after airing (even within a few weeks) would satisfy me and keep me from being so far behind on the series.
Dude, it’s on Amazon the next day.
Download an hour long show in 42 seconds? Damn I want your broadband connection.
Any basic Comcast internet can download a show in that amount of time. If you use the right downloader, you don’t even have to wait for it to finish to start extracting and watching.
You’d think the TV honchos would look at what happened to the music industry and come up with a better solution. Illegal downloading killed the business model. It’s happening again.
The fact is, these shows are released online minutes later. It’s hardly a secret.