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		<title>By: lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What gets me is that fact that black hollywood is at the same time fighting for roles right now! We had to BOYCOTT nbc for them finally to start putting at least a few minorities in roles not regulated to crackheads, and as I black actress I have been told, we only have one slot for an african american, as I watch 100 white actors get the go ahead.

This is SHAMEFUL and a disgrace! Why dont you talk about the fact that the only role a black person can get, from all the movies and show, are for reality tv? Because we don&#039;t talk about this treatment in hollywood does not mean you can ignore it. Please answer that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What gets me is that fact that black hollywood is at the same time fighting for roles right now! We had to BOYCOTT nbc for them finally to start putting at least a few minorities in roles not regulated to crackheads, and as I black actress I have been told, we only have one slot for an african american, as I watch 100 white actors get the go ahead.</p>
<p>This is SHAMEFUL and a disgrace! Why dont you talk about the fact that the only role a black person can get, from all the movies and show, are for reality tv? Because we don&#8217;t talk about this treatment in hollywood does not mean you can ignore it. Please answer that.</p>
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		<title>By: cheriekeane</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheriekeane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People throw around the word &quot;racist&quot; too carelessly, which dilutes the meaning of the word.   Without digressing into a whole sociological discussion of racism, vs prejudice, I&#039;ll just say that one can be prejudiced (biased against &quot;others&quot; different from you) but to really be racist, you have to be able to ENFORCE your prejudices through whatever power you have over an individual, or to enforce your prejudices into policies which impact less powerful groups in society as a whole.

Enough about that, and on to the movie.  I&#039;m Black and I saw Tropic Thunder (TT) at a screening on July 9.  The movie as a whole is a funny satire of the Hollywood culture and the movie making process.  (A bit like &quot;Lost in La Mancha&quot; with Johnny Depp from 2002).

Now, for Robert Downey Jr.&#039;s (RDJ) performance as a Black sergeant:  I didn&#039;t find it offensive, and he pulled it off by walking a very fine line between being overly empathetic with Black men and simply attempting to mimic/copy their &quot;perceived&quot; mannerisms.

I&#039;m female, and I know a lot of Brothers, so to see a white guy try to earnestly mimic what they perceive as the &quot;essence&quot; of what a Black man is, is comical and an interesting sociological study in and of itself.

RDJ seems to boil that essence down to the tone and cadence of his voice, and into the dialogue his character speaks.  He drops his voice an octave, speaks in a staccato style, and spouts a lot of African American proverbs (old sayings).  RDJ isn&#039;t terrible, I wasn&#039;t offended, but I would shudder to think of less-talented white actors trying this. Also, the younger Black soldier played by Brandon T. Jackson keeps RDJ&#039;s character in check, so that he doesn&#039;t wander over into what could easily be an Al Jolson-style minstrel performance (which one could argue Tom Cruse&#039;s portrayal of a studio exec fond of rap music, does).

I wouldn&#039;t even dream (Like the poster Ben @10:59am did) of thinking RDJ deserves any Oscar recognition for this performance.  But with less loftier praise, was RDJ funny?  To me, yes, but every Black person (and White person) has different tastes, so see the movie and judge for yourself.  If you don&#039;t want to spend money on what you perceive as RDJ in blackface, then don&#039;t (I would say get the movie on bootleg, but I don&#039;t think that people would get that I&#039;m only joking).

To the poster who says &quot;get over it&quot; and that he&#039;s anti-Political Correctness I&#039;ll only say this: once you&#039;ve spent a lifetime walking in a Black man&#039;s shoes, then and only then will you have license to make that absurd statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People throw around the word &#8220;racist&#8221; too carelessly, which dilutes the meaning of the word.   Without digressing into a whole sociological discussion of racism, vs prejudice, I&#8217;ll just say that one can be prejudiced (biased against &#8220;others&#8221; different from you) but to really be racist, you have to be able to ENFORCE your prejudices through whatever power you have over an individual, or to enforce your prejudices into policies which impact less powerful groups in society as a whole.</p>
<p>Enough about that, and on to the movie.  I&#8217;m Black and I saw Tropic Thunder (TT) at a screening on July 9.  The movie as a whole is a funny satire of the Hollywood culture and the movie making process.  (A bit like &#8220;Lost in La Mancha&#8221; with Johnny Depp from 2002).</p>
<p>Now, for Robert Downey Jr.&#8217;s (RDJ) performance as a Black sergeant:  I didn&#8217;t find it offensive, and he pulled it off by walking a very fine line between being overly empathetic with Black men and simply attempting to mimic/copy their &#8220;perceived&#8221; mannerisms.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m female, and I know a lot of Brothers, so to see a white guy try to earnestly mimic what they perceive as the &#8220;essence&#8221; of what a Black man is, is comical and an interesting sociological study in and of itself.</p>
<p>RDJ seems to boil that essence down to the tone and cadence of his voice, and into the dialogue his character speaks.  He drops his voice an octave, speaks in a staccato style, and spouts a lot of African American proverbs (old sayings).  RDJ isn&#8217;t terrible, I wasn&#8217;t offended, but I would shudder to think of less-talented white actors trying this. Also, the younger Black soldier played by Brandon T. Jackson keeps RDJ&#8217;s character in check, so that he doesn&#8217;t wander over into what could easily be an Al Jolson-style minstrel performance (which one could argue Tom Cruse&#8217;s portrayal of a studio exec fond of rap music, does).</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t even dream (Like the poster Ben @10:59am did) of thinking RDJ deserves any Oscar recognition for this performance.  But with less loftier praise, was RDJ funny?  To me, yes, but every Black person (and White person) has different tastes, so see the movie and judge for yourself.  If you don&#8217;t want to spend money on what you perceive as RDJ in blackface, then don&#8217;t (I would say get the movie on bootleg, but I don&#8217;t think that people would get that I&#8217;m only joking).</p>
<p>To the poster who says &#8220;get over it&#8221; and that he&#8217;s anti-Political Correctness I&#8217;ll only say this: once you&#8217;ve spent a lifetime walking in a Black man&#8217;s shoes, then and only then will you have license to make that absurd statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/comic-con-2008-tropic-thunder/#comment-95703</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never saw anyone shouting &quot;Racism&quot; when White Chicks came out. And i really don&#039;t get why people should be offended by this one. I saw the movie, it&#039;s a BRILLIANT satire about Hollywood and the way RDJ plays it, there&#039;s not even a shred of anything offensive. It&#039;s the best comedy to come around in years and RDJ performance is touching Oscar level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never saw anyone shouting &#8220;Racism&#8221; when White Chicks came out. And i really don&#8217;t get why people should be offended by this one. I saw the movie, it&#8217;s a BRILLIANT satire about Hollywood and the way RDJ plays it, there&#8217;s not even a shred of anything offensive. It&#8217;s the best comedy to come around in years and RDJ performance is touching Oscar level.</p>
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		<title>By: thank you</title>
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		<dc:creator>thank you</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never knew why there wasn&#039;t a hoopla about Angeline Jolie doing a mighty heart with blackface.  I mean is it because she was playing someone biracial?  Because she still wore the makeup.  I refused to see that movie because it is taking away a good part from an actress who actually is a woman of color - and those parts are scarce as it is.  If you love the story so much - produce it, don&#039;t wear blackface and expect me to take you seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never knew why there wasn&#8217;t a hoopla about Angeline Jolie doing a mighty heart with blackface.  I mean is it because she was playing someone biracial?  Because she still wore the makeup.  I refused to see that movie because it is taking away a good part from an actress who actually is a woman of color &#8211; and those parts are scarce as it is.  If you love the story so much &#8211; produce it, don&#8217;t wear blackface and expect me to take you seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: scott</title>
		<link>http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/comic-con-2008-tropic-thunder/#comment-95406</link>
		<dc:creator>scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geez Louise Tad,

Tell you what is racist - That you (or anyone) comment about something you have yet to see. That you make an assumption based on advertising is just as lame. Sorry man, I feel strongly about this. 

And I have seen TT. It&#039;s certainly the funniest film I have EVER seen. Downey is beyond brilliant. Stiller&#039;s direction is as stellar as any top notch director working today. He is at the top of his game. 

I can&#039;t think of a cinematic comparison to TT. It&#039;s a smart funny movie. The opening war sequence is as breathtakingly rich visually as Apocalypse Now. The dialogue will be quoted as much as Spinal Tap. (if you&#039;re a Tap fan) You know how everyone quotes Nicholson saying &quot;You Can&#039;t Handle The Truth?&quot; TT has dozens of these lines. 

I know - I sound like an exec, or someone who will make money from TT. Nope. I&#039;m just passionate about this film and hate to see it get a bad rap before it&#039;s seen. And especially a bad racist rap. 

See the movie. If you still call it &#039;crazy&#039; racist - that&#039;s your right. I don&#039;t think you will. I think you&#039;ll be laughing too hard.

peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez Louise Tad,</p>
<p>Tell you what is racist &#8211; That you (or anyone) comment about something you have yet to see. That you make an assumption based on advertising is just as lame. Sorry man, I feel strongly about this. </p>
<p>And I have seen TT. It&#8217;s certainly the funniest film I have EVER seen. Downey is beyond brilliant. Stiller&#8217;s direction is as stellar as any top notch director working today. He is at the top of his game. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t think of a cinematic comparison to TT. It&#8217;s a smart funny movie. The opening war sequence is as breathtakingly rich visually as Apocalypse Now. The dialogue will be quoted as much as Spinal Tap. (if you&#8217;re a Tap fan) You know how everyone quotes Nicholson saying &#8220;You Can&#8217;t Handle The Truth?&#8221; TT has dozens of these lines. </p>
<p>I know &#8211; I sound like an exec, or someone who will make money from TT. Nope. I&#8217;m just passionate about this film and hate to see it get a bad rap before it&#8217;s seen. And especially a bad racist rap. </p>
<p>See the movie. If you still call it &#8216;crazy&#8217; racist &#8211; that&#8217;s your right. I don&#8217;t think you will. I think you&#8217;ll be laughing too hard.</p>
<p>peace</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Fawkes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Fawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Know why they&#039;re not showing you any STAR TREK, fanboys?

Because J.J. Abrams is finally going to succeed in doing what some of us hoped the 3 B&#039;s: Brannon/Braga/Berman would finally do:

KILLING THE FRANCHISE!!!!!

Paramount are whoremasters, plain and simple.  They never understood what made Star Trek great, they are content with any old piece of feces with the name STAR TREK on it because they know &quot;X&quot; number of basement-dwelling mouthbreathers are going to show up and fork over money and more merch money.

J.J. Abrams and Zack (&quot;&#039;Visionary&#039; 300 Director about to cause Alan Moore to commit Hara-Kiri&quot;) Snyder should have a baby together and name it Hacky McHackerson.

Can we clone the Nolan brothers, please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Know why they&#8217;re not showing you any STAR TREK, fanboys?</p>
<p>Because J.J. Abrams is finally going to succeed in doing what some of us hoped the 3 B&#8217;s: Brannon/Braga/Berman would finally do:</p>
<p>KILLING THE FRANCHISE!!!!!</p>
<p>Paramount are whoremasters, plain and simple.  They never understood what made Star Trek great, they are content with any old piece of feces with the name STAR TREK on it because they know &#8220;X&#8221; number of basement-dwelling mouthbreathers are going to show up and fork over money and more merch money.</p>
<p>J.J. Abrams and Zack (&#8221;&#8216;Visionary&#8217; 300 Director about to cause Alan Moore to commit Hara-Kiri&#8221;) Snyder should have a baby together and name it Hacky McHackerson.</p>
<p>Can we clone the Nolan brothers, please?</p>
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		<title>By: Romeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Romeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angelina Jolie did roughly the same thing in a mighty heart....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angelina Jolie did roughly the same thing in a mighty heart&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: I Am Woman</title>
		<link>http://www.deadline.com/hollywood/comic-con-2008-tropic-thunder/#comment-95365</link>
		<dc:creator>I Am Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a female movie lover, none of this excites me. I get a few crumbs a year....the geeks get non stop horror, comics, superheros. I know I am supposed to be all excited about SATC and MAMA MIA...so that is TWO, lucky me! Maybe if something was made on a regular basis for my demographic, women would return to the movie theaters.

However, the geeks and creeps run the business. As a result, Comic-Con, with its fringe crazies, are now determining the future of cinema. Sad! Audrey Hepburn, Bette Davis....where are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a female movie lover, none of this excites me. I get a few crumbs a year&#8230;.the geeks get non stop horror, comics, superheros. I know I am supposed to be all excited about SATC and MAMA MIA&#8230;so that is TWO, lucky me! Maybe if something was made on a regular basis for my demographic, women would return to the movie theaters.</p>
<p>However, the geeks and creeps run the business. As a result, Comic-Con, with its fringe crazies, are now determining the future of cinema. Sad! Audrey Hepburn, Bette Davis&#8230;.where are you?</p>
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		<title>By: peggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t &quot;Satan&#039;s Alley&quot; that Broadway musical that John Travolta was dancing in, in Saturday Night Fever 2, that abomination directed by Sylvester Stallone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t &#8220;Satan&#8217;s Alley&#8221; that Broadway musical that John Travolta was dancing in, in Saturday Night Fever 2, that abomination directed by Sylvester Stallone?</p>
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