4TH (AND TODAY'S FINAL) UPDATED WRITETHRU:I hear DreamWorks' deal with Disney is done and will be announced on Monday. But, wait, didn't DreamWorks already hype a distribution pact with Universal just four months ago? I can report exclusively that financially desperate DreamWorks needed $250 million -- $100M immediately and $150M later in the second tranche -- to save its foundering Bollywood partnership. So Stacey Snider and Steven Spielberg demanded to change the terms of their deal with Universal already announced to the world so it would now include straight distribution and a $250M investment. But Universal balked. The studio was very reluctant to even invest $100M.
But there's also another side to this. Spielberg was irritated that Universal came to him asking to renegotiate his longstanding 2% theme parks consulting deal dating back to the days when Lew Wasserman/Sid Sheinberg controlled the studio. These days, that's worth $50 million a year to the director. And Universal also asked to delay for 5 years Spielberg's '"put" deal -- his right to have the studio buy him out of the parks deal in a year. But it was also just one of a laundry list of blue sky terms that Universal asked for on the very first day of negotiations, just like DreamWorks had its own laundry list of blue sky terms. When Spielberg balked, Uni took back the proposal within 24 hours. So this was far from the "straw that broke the camel's back" of the DW-Uni bargaining.
As the negotiations dragged on for weeks, that's when DreamWorks began secret talks with Disney, which by all accounts would be a more strategic and enthusiastic partner. I first found out about the DreamWorks/Disney talks two months ago. I kept quiet because they were still formative. But then last night I was alerted that a deal between them was "imminent" -- to my amazement, especially given the rancorous history between both companies dating back 15 years. So I did what any journalist does: I began to chase the story. DreamWorks suddenly began ducking my calls because Disney wasn't ready to go public with any deal. And because Snider/Spielberg have been moving heaven and earth to make sure no one in the media found out the true details of just what a fiscal crisis their company is in. Also last night, I confirmed that Universal didn't even know that any DreamWorks talks were going on with Disney much less in the final stages until I asked about them. You see, DreamWorks had hoped to play Disney and Universal off one another and snag the best deal for itself within the next 48 hours.
I have now learned that, Thursday night, a flurry of memos and calls were exchanged between Universal and DreamWorks about where exactly their deal stood vis a vis the one in the works at Disney. Finally, this morning, Universal got sick and tired of it all and pulled out. "We weren't going further. This deal got to the point where it's not in our interest," a furious Universal bigwig told me. "And then when you learn they're negotiating behind your back, it reflects upon what kind of partners you're getting into business with." A DreamWorks insider replies, "Everybody has the right in business to change the rules of the game. Universal is understandably upset. But there are no victims and no villains. It became very clear at the end of the day that DreamWorks had a better deal with Disney."
I've also learned that, today, Snider phoned Universal Studios prez/COO Ron Meyer to apologize. "We had to do this. Our backs were against the wall. We couldn't tell anyone about our discussions with Disney." To which Meyer replied, "What you did was wrong on every level. You guys behaved like pigs." I have since heard that Snider, who was once Meyer's lieutenant, is deeply offended he called her that. But that's a relationship torn asunder. Especially amazing because Uni and DW used to be such pals.
But this is not the first time DreamWorks went behind Uni's back. First, DreamWorks 1.0 negotiated until the 11th hour to sell itself to Uni's parent company General Electric until the big conglomerate tried to roll back terms at the last minute. So DreamWorks wrapped up a quick negotiation with Paramount and let Universal know about it after the fact. And Universal had to hear from others that Spielberg was hiring away Snider to be DreamWorks chief. So this was the third strike.
But Hollywood is a town where relationships are more important than numbers. And to see this level of animosity between two former partners, DreamWorks and Universal, is rare indeed. Then again, it happened to DreamWorks 1.0 and its owner Viacom/ Paramount as well. The war of words between Sumner Redstone and David Geffen, for instance, had Hollywood transfixed since their companies' marriage deteriorated almost immediately and then resulted in divorce. Paramount sat back quietly today watching the Universal/DreamWorks mess unfold. "It justifies everything they went through for the last 2 1/2 years," one insider tells me. "You have to know that Brad Grey and Rob Moore must be the happiest people in the world."
DreamWorks 2.0 immediately spent all day today at Disney finalizing terms so that the deal could be announced on Monday. Given Disney's reputation for hard-nosed negotiations, it's dicey that without a rival bidder Disney gave DreamWorks everything it wanted. But I have no doubt that the deal is better than what Universal was offering. (That's certainly true regarding pay slots; more on that below.)
Although not part of the DreamWorks discussions, I've also been hearing for months that the Mouse House has been wanting to "unload" Miramax, and my sources believe that the DreamWorks deal will light a fire under Disney to sell the specialty unit that once belonged to Harvey and Bob Weinstein.
Here's the Universal statement: "Universal Pictures has ended discussions with DreamWorks for a distribution agreement. Over the past several weeks DreamWorks has demanded material changes to previously agreed upon terms. It is clear that DreamWorks' needs and Universal’s business interests are no longer in alignment. We wish them luck in their pursuit of funding and distribution of their future endeavors."
DreamWorks has yet to give out a statement. That will be done in a joint press release with Disney Monday.
Dreamworks 2.0 has been haunted by the worldwide financial crisis which has delayed the contemplated bank financing it needs to complete its big Bollywood deal and raise a total of about $1.25 billion in equity and debt. Right now, DreamWorks has claimed it has half the necessary lender commitments -- supposedly $150 million of the first phase of the $325 million bank syndication -- before it can secure a matching contribution by biz partner Reliance Big Entertainment based in Mumbai, India. DreamWorks insiders keep expressing confidence publicly that the other half of the money will come in by March 31st. But that was much later than originally planned and now Hollywood knows the extent of the jitters -- and it's not just because Spielberg is personally funding his new company's overhead alongside Reliance. Now it becomes clear that DreamWorks understandably is desperate to lay its hands on all the money it can and by any means possible. "Less senior financing means less equity financing from Reliance. Less overall capital means less films and less overhead," says one of my film financing sources. "Spielberg and Snider finally realized they didn't have enough rope."
Here's what happened: Suddenly, because of its financing crisis, DreamWorks 2.0 decided that its straight distribution deal announced with Universal wouldn't be enough to save its Reliance partnership. So then Dreamworks went to Universal with demands for an investment of $250 million as well as distribution. You see, Dreamworks still does not have any formal agreement with Universal which is something of a surprise after all this time. But it's because DreamWorks kept making more and more demands for overhead, production, and ultimately investment money. That isn't what Uni bargained for so negotiations have been dragging on for weeks. "Universal is trying to resolve what they need. But it's a lot more money than the studio is willing to give them," one of my sources says before the proverbial shit hit the fan. Another tells me, "The deal for Universal isn't as attractive as before. What was once free is now going to cost."
One huge factor that affected the deal is that DreamWorks originally said it would be coming with its own HBO deal. Those pay slots are very valuable in Hollywood so Universal was counting on that. But then DreamWorks quietly confided that it couldn't make the HBO deal so now wanted to make use of Universal's pay slots. Even though it didn't want to, Universal stepped up and agreed. But next DreamWorks confided that it was not able to raise its bank financing to partner with Reliance so now demanded investment money from Universal. DreamWorks' number kept changing up and down, early and late in the financing. Finally, they asked for $250 million from Universal. After a lot of hemming and hawing, Uni came back with an offer of just $100 million.
Here's the thinking that went into the offer. First, Spielberg gets the richest gross deals in Hollywood. "So rich that when he finally does a movie with you, you can't make any money," one insider complains. He was offering no collateral. And Universal conducted so-called "Monte Carlo's", an analysis of the probable scenario of the returns on a future slate of motion pictures. The studio decided that those DreamWorks projections under the current circumstances did not look very favorable. It would not, and could not, give DreamWorks more of a deal.
At Disney, meanwhile, CEO Bob Iger has wanted to be in biz with Steven Spielberg and Stacey Snider since they started thinking about leaving Paramount. I do know it was David Geffen's first choice for DreamWorks 2.0 (followed closely by Fox, and Universal only a distant 3rd), but he couldn't talk Spielberg out of "going back home" to Universal where the director's Amblin office has long been on the lot. DreamWorks 2.0 would be especially enticing to Disney because Spielberg/Snider are planning to make only about 6 films a year (though with their current financing that figure has dropped down to 2 or 3 a year), and Disney is now rolling out just 12 pics annually -- the least of any of the majors -- so it could use more product. Whereas Universal already puts out a slate of 17 films annually so has more than enough in the pipeline. Plus, Spielberg personally has always loved Disney's family fare and admired Disney's incredible marketing machine worldwide, so there's tremendous synergy there. "The Disney deal has always been strategically better on paper," one DreamWorks insider tells me.
Even better, Disney has a pay deal with Starz for virtually unlimited slots so that suited DreamWorks as well.
More Disney synergy is that Spielberg has tremendous interest in the theme parks business and its creative possibilities.
So all in all, this is a scenario that no one, least of all me, could ever have anticipated. One of the reasons DreamWorks 1.0 began was because Jeffrey Katzenberg was passed over for the presidency of Disney by then chairman/CEO Michael Eisner. After that, the two companies competed bitterly for bragging rights in animation. Now, Katzenberg is ensconced at DreamWorks Animation which is a publicly held company with distribution from Paramount and separation from DreamWorks 2.0. And Steven Spielberg is about to make his professional home at Disney. Even though his offices will probably stay at Universal like they always have. For at least awhile. Go figure.
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Big shocker indeed! And i personally wouldn’t mind that they would go with Disney. Some of Steven’s stories lend toward disney storytelling.
WOW! I kinda hope they just do it and get it over with.
Spielberg totally belongs at Disney!
So is Disney backing out as well, or just using the new leverage to get a bigger share?
Ho-ly. Crap. This would be amazing for both partners. Disney needs good movies and an alternative to Bruckheimer. Wonder what JB thinks about all this?
Well that sure didn’t take long. WOW. Love it.
This should not come as a shocker to those familiar with the tensions between DW and Par. Dreamworks has much bigger issues to nail down in order to get its debt facilities in place and so on, so having their distribution up in the air is a distraction they can ill afford. Also, rumors have been whirling around for weeks (if not months) regarding the likely sale of Miramax possibly to Lionsgate or another mini-major, or to one of the new finance players in town (such as Relativity or Social Capital). Either way, Disney would get a huge net gain from all the Dreamworks product.
why is anyone surprised at the greed and lack of integrity at DreamWorks. Just because they had a deal never seems to mean any obligation to honor their side of it. this town is littered with people and studios they’ve screwed. if this holds, it’s great.
No pity. Spielberg is a multiBILLIONAIRE. If he cares that much, he’ll put up his own money. This is ridiculous.
Now I think I know why Ben Stiller jumped over to Fox. This could delay Dreamworks 2.0 for quite a while, and could potentially sink the deal if a new home can’t be found.
I’m afraid that Hollywood has only itself to blame for its current money woes. The folks in charge have made things so complicated, convoluted, and constipated, it’s next to impossible for an outside investor to make any real money in movies. And the days of posing as a tax write-off are over, if you don’t pay the green, you won’t make the scene.
This is the industry that not only recovered quickest after the stock market crash, but eventually thrived during the Great Depression, that’s become a financial black hole that threatens to destroy itself.
Seriously, why would you screw Dreamworks like that? Nikki…Here is a great idea….let’s do whatever we can put another buyer/studio out of business. Are you kidding me? That was lame. Who cares if DW was playing them off each other. That is how it is done. “Way it goes!”
There is a phrase in Scotland for when someone’s future is very unsettled and unknown that goes as follows….
“Their coat is on a very shaky peg….”
The silence surrounding the whole affair spoke volumes and it certainly puts Red Hour’s ‘defection’ to Fox in a different light.
I never really got the hype that surrounded the ’second coming’ of Dreamworks anyway. The ‘real’ Dreamworks went the way of flesh when they sold themselves to Paramount.
All Spielberg wanted from this ‘Dreamworks 2.0′ was a shingle that would act as a Trojan horse so he could worm his way back into the Universal fold.
Disney and this Dreamworks ‘lite’ seem like a bad mix. What about Sony? They gave the Joe Roth’s Revolution whatever it wanted, surely they do the same for Spielberg? They are co-financing Tin Tin after all.
Could it be that Spielberg’s love of Sid Sheinberg goes so far that he wants to reproduce his mentor’s doomed ‘Bubble Factory’ shingle for himself?
Stay the f out of other people’s business, all your doing is disrupting the commerce in these companies and making people jittery.
During these time’s you may have hurt more people then helped.
I find it aggravating that the person writing this article feels it is in EVERYONES best interest to point out what is going on behind closed doors. I have absolutely no vested interest in this story whatsoever, and can say conclusively, “Mind your own business.” What DreamWorks was hoping to accomplish would, undoubtedly, have been a great movie, with Disney or without. If I thought for one moment that you had actually let the cat out of the bag, I would be furious. If I were one of the parties involved, I would be looking in back of Soldier of Fortune for someone to deal with you!
Sounds like we urgently need another bailout package.
Oh well, come join the rest of us on unemployment.
Why would you screw DW like that? There are already too few buyers/financiers out there and to mess with their negotiation like that doesn’t help anyone. Except maybe you. Hey maybe your crack reporting will now result in another breaking story for DHD…DW lays off their entire staff because they couldn’t close a studio deal. Awesome work!
Come on. You know that playing the studios off each other is how this business works. It always and always will. You do it with your “bigwig” sources. “Way it goes.”
Look, I get that it is news, but why does everything you write about have to be a “gotcha” story? You seem awfully angry all the time and so desperate to taken seriously. Hey Nikki…let em say it so you can finally hear it…..we all read your site. We all think you are good at reporting and hope you keep it up. But, things suck out there, and adding salt to wounds is so 2008.
Why don’t the SKG boys invest their own money? $250 million is pocket change to them. If they believe so strongly in their films they should be happy to spend their own money. I hope they don’t ask me for money I’m broke!
They should call Obama, he’s givng money to everyone nowadays.
Absolutely TREMENDOUS reporting here, Nikki. This is great stuff the likes of which Variety would never acknowledge in a billion years.
You probably won’t print this part but Spielberg never, ever invests in his own projects. Not a penny. (If he does it’s because he absolutely has to) Other People’s Money is how this guy lives and breathes. Even though he’s a multi billionaire. Should anyone invest in a cheapskate who doesn’t believe in his own product? Paul Allen, the Ziffs and everyone else who funded early Dreamworks knows that all too well. Buyer beware. ANYONE who considers investing in this guy today – Universal, Disney, Reliance, and whatever other suckers these people can get on the hook – should watch out. Don’t be stupid, Iger. This is business, not a game of kiss-ass. Can you really afford to play that in this economy?
Looking back at its troubled history, Dreamworks should stuck to its Paramount deal rather than tie a deal with Universal they know they’d break.
Why couldn’t Spielberg and Katzenberg put up the $250 million themselves? Spielberg especially astounds me, considering he’s consistently the most successful director worldwide. He’s not exactly poor, and $250 million out of his pocket is gonna be chump change for me.
Perhaps they can apply for a government bailout. Of course, the exec’s will have to get by with $500K per year (no chance).
I think you give yourself way too much thinking you had any influence on the situation what so ever. Universal probably pulled because they don’t have the money to give to DW 2.0. They have their own films to release. You need to get a grip – you’re not important.
ego, ego, ego. damn, it must be painful to live with all that sense of entitlement. what a mess but alas, so predictable when the economy toppled. bravo to universal for having balls! in the end, they’ll all be fine, making good movies, tons of money and damaged children.
Stacey is the classiest lady in the business and possibly the smartest. Negotiating is negotiating and you always try to get the BEST deal, not the worst. I look forward to more Speilberg movies.
I got your back Nicky. You did your job as any REAL journalist would do. Never ever hold a story.
As for Spielberg, he has his own PERSONAL money to spend if he really wants to make a movie. As for financing, if he comes here to MI and makes my movie he will not only save 40 percent on the front end, I’ll give him a 50 percent deal on my latest script. 50 K out the door.
Spielberg has to have at least 250 mil in his IRA account. If you really believe in your project, front your own money. I do. As for Universal, as the saying goes A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. And speaking of bushes, he can get some more money here.
http://www.afci.org/incentives/europe.htm
Nikki, do you have anymore information about what Disney is planning on doing with Miramax? They are the ones getting screwed the most out of this whole mess. Who would take them off Disney’s hands? No major studio is in the market for a specialty division – who’s left to cough up that kind of money?
Seriously, you should explain to the readers what you were thinking and why it is OK for you to meddle with deals like this. People will lose their jobs over something like this. It might be the only way to prove to your readers you actually care.
Thoughts on this ‘deal’:
Rename DreamWorks to ShadeWorks – or, title this story “Why DreamWorks is pricing itself out of the Movie Biz”
Nikki’s being a journo – they break stories. Where’s the morality come into play? ANY outlet would want to break this story, no matter what kind of bitch they are (sorry Nikki, but sometimes U really ARE a bitch…).
DWorx deal comes at a bad time economically – so why aren’t a bunch of richies jumping in and just financing it? Oh right, OPP is what makes them rich… And honestly, both sides tried to make this happen as long as they could. And Diz could still save DWorx 2.0 anyway. So how does breaking this story affect THAT?
True dat. Nikki, now you are costing people’s jobs.
There is a thin line between love and hate. You are at your best when you are not gloating, but just reporting. Stop making yourself the story, and just report what you know.
This business is hard enough without you stirring the pot.
a lot of people in this town have known about the lack of integrity and greed in the DreamWorks campfor a long time. their sense of entitlement knows no limits, and they’ve finally pushed it too far. they’ve been protected in the press for too long and it’s nice for everyone to see exactly how they operate.
This is incredible that people are concerned about a dumbass movie company marriage when the unemployement rate is over 7% in this country and people are practically living in the streets. I don’t believe anyone puts showbusiness in our top 10 essential needs.
To Quick, Scott and “Gotcha”: Take your illiteracy and fear of transparency back to Drudge whence you came.
There are no secrets in Hollwyood thanks to Nikki FInke. Sometimes Nikki,
less is more and you’re screwing up deals with your incessant need to have a TOLDJA!
We need to put people back to work in this town, not undermine a deal that could save jobs. Enough!
Man “The suits” have their knives out for’ya big time Nikki. You must be doing something terribly right.
Dear Paul Wolfe
The entertainment industry is just that – an industry. It employs people (from movie stars to ticket tearers, from caterers to carpenters)
This is one of our most vital and distinctly American business sectors.
These studios are major employers – of Americans.
You’re supposed to write the news — not MAKE IT! Now this potentially leaves one more company to go down the tubes. Losing WIP and NEW LINE and the others were tough, but DW will really hurt. Who’s going to buy new scripts if they go? Who’s going to fill the void of production? And all because of your over aggressive gossiping. In this case, Nikki — you blew it!
I am STUNNED at the vituperation against you, Nikki, by the first group of individuals commenting on this reportage of yours on Dreamworks 2.0. Apparently these individuals think that the only reporting about Dreamworks should be the sucking up and sycophancy so common in the media when Spielberg is the subject. Sorry, Steven and Stacy, but your sense of entitlement and being “special” is bunkum; the rules apply to you, too
Heartbreaking! I’m deeply moved by Spielberg’s financial problems! The world needs his crappy movies – anyone around able to give him $13 millions fees for the world’s further enlightnment?
Three billionaires begging for millions. Excuse me if I don’t slit my wrists over this “anguish”. If their product is so good then why don’t they invest their own money? Oops. That’s right. Rich people don’t do that.
Oh really? Isn’t it funny that now the Stimulus Package will be passed (and we all know it will), all of a sudden all of these companies (one right after another) are having money problems.
What a racket!
I don’t know why you’re all hating on Nikki. She is the press! Her job is to break the story. Just because she sides with the artists in union deals does not mean she is really an advocate for anything. And it’s good that a person like Nikki makes it hard to keep secrets in Hollywood. Who has the keys to those secrets??…The moguls!!!…the people most of you seem to hate…this is internet democracy.
I love it! All the talkbackers who are scolding you for writing about this story. My personal take, if you were able to find out about it, everyone else would soon find out about it. Somebody leaked the story and they squeaks! And if Dreamworks didn’t plan for this negotiating tactic, shame on them!
I wish there were more reporters like you out there, then we wouldn’t be awash with this financial catastrophe.
On a tangent, can you believe that the WSJ turned down the Madoff story!?! That whole mess could have been shut down back in 2005.
Katz, Speil, and Geff loved Obama so much…hahaha I hope they all go down the tubes just like the rest of America. I hope DW goes bankrupt all they all lose everything they’ve got. Welcome to socialism you stooges!!!
Wow, an awful lot of snippy comments at the top. Who wants to bet those are vested interests?
Considering that Dreamworks could do nothing but bash Disney incessently when it originally rolled out this is an interesting turn of events.
Nikki,
You did the right thing. As many have pointed out, there are several roads here to save the DW deal, and all the jobs that come with it.
Real journalism is dying, and people aren’t used to stories being published for the right reasons. For those attacking Nikki, what exactly are you defending? Be angry at DW for playing fast and loose with an important deal.
@ Paul Wolfe — February 6, 2009 @ 1:06 pm
Hey Dumbass! The site is called Deadline HOLLYWOOD Daily.
One last comment for all the Nikki haters. First the Universal deal, like most deals probably had a time limit. Secondly the contract probably had an exclusivity portion, trade secrets and limitation on Dreamworks approaching anybody else doing the negotiation period. If Dreamworks was jumping ships before that deal/negotiation time period they are the bad guys.As for Disney, would you deal with someone who tried to put the screws to another studio in times like these. I mean you could be on day 28 of an exclusive time period and Dream works could be negotiating with Fox. If these guys are serious, they will just finance their deal themselves. Then any serious investors will pile on based on Dreamworks success record. This whole deal/backstabbing etc is starting to sound like Wycleaf Jean’s record “Dollar Bill” Dreamworks use to be the Sweetest girl, if so get you money, the street way.
What is wrong with you commentators? This is called GREAT REPORTING. Go cry in someone else’s milk. If Nikki Finke didn’t report it, you’d all wonder why. And if you didn’t you should! Maybe you’re all so desensitized by the vapid trade papers that you don’t recognize true journalism. This is what is meant by a “scoop”. If people lose jobs it’s not because of the reporter. Just like if a guy cheats it’s not because of the other woman. If a deal goes south it’s because of the deal makers. In a town so afraid of their own shadow that they don’t cast one at all, I applaud Deadline Hollywood. It is fierce and fearless.
Congrats, Nikki. This is why everyone reads your column and will continue to read.
Tee hee. Even though the bosses suck, it’s still kind of funny to see them shaft one of the biggies at the DGA who didn’t really give a caca about us little people when the DGA made their deal with the AMPTP in the middle of our negotiations.
To the guy who wrote “…I don’t believe anybody puts showbusiness in our top ten essential needs”
Um, yeah, tens of thousands of people work in showbusiness… so financing and studio deal making is hugely important to all of our lives — from the PA’s, to the production company secrataries, to the crew members, to the writers, directors, actors, PR people, branding companies, distribution right on down the to the kids who work in your local AMC.
A healthy Dreamworks means thousands of people working.
This is hugely essential.
If you’re not in the business, fine — stay out of it. But if you feel the need to inject your opinion where it’s not needed, wanted or of any value — try at least NOT to sound like an uninformed ignoramus — it simply brings down the caliber of discussion on this board.
Why didn’t Dreamworks just stay with Paramount?
I don’t understand why billonaires are asking for this money. Finance your own company.
What the F is with you?
“Also last night, I confirmed that Universal didn’t even know that any DreamWorks talks were going on with Disney until I asked about them.”
a) if the ‘big wig’ you spoke with didn’t know DW was in talks elsewhere, I’m prone to believe ‘big wig’ = tranny in a big wig smacking her gum on sm & lapeer.
b) if somehow, some way, you truly were responsible for enlightening the brass at Uni and it actually had an impact on a deal at hand, how the hell can you take such pleasure in claiming credit for something that could cost people their jobs?
um….Nikki is a journalist, this is a story, she reports on it. This distinction between write the news between making the news is pretty weak. The news is DreamWorks has been negotiating with Disney, how did Nikki make that happen???
Fascinating.
I guess the bloom has come off hte DreamWorks rose. Steven and David aren’t the boy geniuses thye used to be. Womder what Paul Allen thinks of them and their ‘talent.’
David Geffen has been and is the one making these deals, not Spielberg. DG was right that Disney was the best strategic partner for DreamWorks but Steven overruled him. Steven has a long and deep sentimental attachment to Universal and this is understandable since Uni’s Sid Sheinberg was his mentor going back to the very beginning of Steven’s Hollywood career. Don’t savage the man for following his heart instead of his head, it’s what any good artist would do. Don’t savage the man when it’s DG making the deals and not him. Don’t savage the man for being finally, painfully forced to admit that Jeff Zucker is no Lew Wasserman and the Universal of Steven’s memories and dreams no longer exists. In all of the anger directed at DG, Nikki, Stacey, etc, let’s not forget some compassion for Steven.
Does this mean we have to sit through even more of those repetitive and boorish John Williams scores?
Dreamworks had a good deal at Paramount. But they opted out for whatever reason and set out to be a bigger dog. Well maybe they will be or maybe they now see that the grass was pretty green at Paramount. There is only so much money and power to go around. Nikki please keep reporting as you do, you are one of the few who is actually a journalist these days.
I’m somewhat offended and completely baffled by the rabid posts instructing Ms. Fink to “mind her own business” and not “meddle” in the “deals.” First, it’s hard to imagine anyone who has any knowledge of the movie business or business journalism not knowing that Ms. Fink gets her information from the dealmakers who give it to her because they want the information known. Second, as one can easily glean from her own version of events, Universal was never going to meet DreamWorks’ demands thus the complaint seems to be that publishing the news that Universal was bowing out has doomed DreamWorks because Disney no longer feels it has competition. I find it very hard to believe that the bigwigs in Burbank didn’t know about Universal’s decision well before Nikki.
It is naïve and/or desperate to think that Hollywood is going to be ruined if DreamWorks shuts down – or saved if they get their deal. If there is a market for films, there will be financing and deals and jobs; if not – not. As other posters have pointed out, the owners of DreamWorks have plenty of money to invest if they believe the investment is good. Deadline Hollywood just gives us a version of events and blaming the messenger is just childish.
for the record, I am also “desperately seeking $250 mil” for some movies I’d like to make. If anyone has some extra cash, call me.
BTW Steven could write a check for $250 mil out of the petty cash drawer. So, I don’t really get this. I mean, desperately seeking cash? The guy’s a flipping billionaire. So, get out the check book already and put your money where your mouth is.
Don’t hate the player, hate the game THUGS! Boo hoo…now you will have plenty of time to return calls.
Nikki is simply doing her job, well.
I just finished a contract with Disney for a gig. Their contract negotiating is always one sided — Disney being the one side. Dreamworks better have good lawyers and pray Disney really wants them, because no matter what, Dreamworks is now going to give away a lot of their biz for free — it’s just a matter of what will be sacrificed … the arm, the leg. A shame.
If Dreamworks Animation were part of the deal, that would be quite ironic, as that would bring Jeffrey Katzenberg back to Disney as well.
It would also be a semi-monopoly as now Disney would have both Pixar and Dreamworks Animation in it’s arsenal.
Oh well, one can dream…
At least Spielberg won’t have Eisner to deal with…
Job well done Nikki, reporting at its best. It may be bad news for some, but it’s true journalism.
I would think any studio would kill to have Spielberg given that he’s got the track record for nearly consistently making money in this industry, no small feat. Universal is part of NBC, though, and NBC’s understanding of entertainment as of late seems to be reality anything and keep those costs down. Viewers? What viewers? I actually like Universal, it’s NBC that sucks harder than a porn star lately. As for using his own money to finance the deal, that’s not how this business works, McFly. He’s not a billionaire because he financed his own deals. Film makers, entertainers in general, make a unique product every time with a huge downside. A couple of $150 MM pics with some $2 MM opening weekends and you’re dead meat. This isn’t complex finance; get into the accounting of this stuff and you’ll have a headache for days. As for Nikki, rock on! You are what the LA Times Calendar page used to be.
Great reporting, Nikki.
Always love to see the greed of this town in action. Eating their own and pooping on them seems to be the rule of the day…
Just as long as they don’t count on the government for a bailout, this country can do just fine w/o these corps.
No one is saying Dreamworks makes or breaks Hollywood. Also, you clearly do not know how much it takes to make and market a movie if you think the “owners of Dreamworks” should invest their own money. That is naive. I guess what is annoying is that DW was somehow vilified for trying to get a better deal. Is it “childish” to ask why Nikki thinks that is such a bad thing if she is going to use that tone? Maybe it is just me, it seems as though DHD has been hammering DW about their funding issues for months with a weird sense of glee. The whole world is struggling to get funding, so why pick on these guys because they want to keep their company alive and make good movies?
I have no vested interest in any of this (other than to keep Hollywood healthy), but DW has made some pretty great (and profitable) movies over the past few years. And, for those of you who are hating them for their sense of entitlement…the two people running that joint have made more successful movies combined than almost anyone working in film. Btw, this is Hollywood. Everyone has a sense of entitlement.
Guys,
A lot of whining here, especially by those worried about jobs being lost or Nikki blowing a deal. Jobs won’t be lost. Nikke explains it pretty well but some people seem to need handholding:
DreamWorks needs $250m in order for it to stay afloat and get the matching funds from Reliance.
If there is no $250m cash injection from Disney — there is no deal and Dreamworks will cease to exist.
No 250m cash = no DW.
So it’s clear Disney entered into these discussions knowing that the cash injection is a requirement. And they have continued talking.
The cash part is black and white.
It’s not like DW is in danger of being put out of business by Disney’s newfound negotiating strength.
No jobs are in danger.
The only thing that is in danger is DW getting a crazy good deal like they thought they would, or if they’re just going to get an ‘okay’ deal which is what they’ll get now that DIS has negotiating strength.
That’s the only issue.
Iger will put the screws to them on the distribution fee — he should Steven will still get his gross points because he can conveniently play both sides of the fence as studio head and producer/director. So his ego doesnt get hurt.
The only thing at risk here is how much money DW will make on it’s releases with DIS. They’ll make a fair amount, nothing more. When the deal term is up, maybe DW can leverage a better deal in a different climate. For now- they overplayed their hand.
Everyone relax about jobs being lost.
Great reporting, Nikki.
p.s.: Harvey only wishes his problems were this big. I bet he’s trying to figure out a way to buy Miramax back. He won’t be able to find the $$$, but I give it 5 business days before he issues a press release saying he’s retained an investment bank to assess buying it back.
Somewhere Barry Diller is rolling on the floor laughing his ass off at Ron Meyer’s “pigs” comment.
I bet Brad Grey is laughing his ass off right now.
Nikki FINK is more like it. Not cool, just to flex your qwerty.
Guffaw! This is hilarious. I agree, let Steven, Jeff and David put up some of their own coin. As far as hectoring Nikki for reporting this, grow up. If the deal falls through and people lose their jobs, it won’t be because of Nikki’s reporting but because of Steven’s poor delicate little ego and his inability to tolerate having to answer to Paramount and Philip Dauman. Let’s not forget the comment last year from Dauman that Geffen and Jeffrey then dressed up as some ridiculous, horribly offensive justification for Dreamworks public consideration of leaving Paramount.
Besides, don’t worry about unemployment, Hope & Change are here and now they say the stimulus deal has passed so break me out a stogie, some champagne and caviar because the good times are coming.
Really, Quick is right here! Stay out of the deal until the deal is done. Journalism is not changing the course of events, its reporting on them. Telling Uni something to disrupt DW deal is not what a reporter is supposed to do.
Where does DW Animation fit into all of this? Sure, they’re a separate company from DW proper, but the distribution is tied…
First Pixar, now DWA… did the Mouse House just corner the market on Feature Animation?
I am amazed that a liberal women would be upset about being called a pig. They thought it was terrific when Obama called Sarah Palin a pig…..
Nikki, your wonderful! Keep pumping out those “toldjas.”
You better look before you cross the street. I hear Steven is pissed
Like his movies Stpehen Spielberg is out of touch with the current financial situation in the world. The truth is Dreamworks can’t get the debt part of their deal component. Spielberg insists on commissioning any fund that Stacey tries to secure. His perks include 50% of the films gross, crazy overhead for his staff and to pay for his Lear jet on top of it. Plus he will only structure a deal with OPM (other people’s money) as long as he can skim off the top. Kinda becoming the Bernie Madoff of the film Biz. Their is a reason he can’t close…it’s a bad deal for any investor. I wonder when the income slows down if his mother will reconsider having her “Uterus Bronzed”?
DreamWorks Animation’s distribution is not tied to DreamWorks live-action. Paramount still has a deal to distribute DreamWorks Animation, and I’m sure it will be a cold day in hell if Katzenberg lets Disney gets its hands on that product…
$250 million isn’t nearly enough for Dreamworks. I demand that Congress immediately allocate $250 Billion for DW right away tonight in a special emergency session of the Senate and the House. All Americans should support this expenditure of taxpayer money. The Dreamworkers deserve $250 Billion just think of all the wonderful movies they will make with that money. Obama must) sign this bill first thing tomorrow morning so DW gets their money on Monday in cash delivered by Air Force One. Load up the cargo hold and get that money to Geffen he will put it to good use.
What you blow hards, don’t understand is that Nikki went from reporting the news to creating it.
SHE CROSSED THE LINE
Wow! A lot of Dreamworks sock puppets visited today.
Why didn’t they just stick with what was working well in the first place, Paramount studios. That combo was and is putting out hit after hit movie. As much as the media has tried to malign Paramount in the entertainment news, this clearly reveals that Dreamworks was more of the instigator and aggressor in the business negotiations. It’s a shame. They can’t work in harmony with any studio. You just know that eventually there are going to be problems with Disney as well.
Good God, do the mouth-breathers from Drudge always post such insipid stupidity?
They just post rambling posts with some obtuse reference to conspiratorial nonsense. Ugh. I’m going to become a supporter of the digital divide … keep hillbillies away from computers.
Good thing Nikki didn’t report on the Cuban Missile Crisis – the world would have blown up. I believe the term is “Tortious interference”
Lois – “White hot reporting. I sincerely hope the trades and the newspapers give Nikki Finke the play that she deserves on this one Chief.”
Clark – “Bravo for Ron Meyer! They have repeatedly betrayed his honest attempts at decency, business sense, and good will. You can make negotiating factions compete and still be honorable about it. In fact it’s the best way to proceed when the number of potential suitors is a very short list. For DreamWorks? Two bridges burned in very tough times. Who cares if Spielberg considers Universal his ‘home?’ Obsequious cant. I’d throw him off the lot. Speilberg should make note : such perfidy is exactly what made Ovitz a sociopathic pariah.”
Jimmy – “What you’re seeing Mr. White is the dog days of the Spielberg era. Since ‘Schindler’s List’ all his movies – save ‘Catch Me If You Can’ which I love – are all structured the exact same way. And it’s nobody’s fault but the director’s. Plus all those flashy set piece sequences pushed together without regard for any real story arc. And George Lucas is Indiana Jones not Speilberg. The public is on to him. No wonder he won’t renegotiate his theme park rights.”
I agree Nikki did a terrible thing reporting this news she should be thrown in jail the way Judith Miller was tossed into jail by Patrick Fitzgerald. Of course that was a totally different matter but the point remains the same, we can’t allow reporters to publish whatever they want goodness gracious no sir. In fact Peter Bart needs to start editing this blog so he can spike all the stories that might piss off powerful people. And it’s painfully obviious that her Universal bigwig is Ron Meyer he’s the only one she ever quotes. You’re on thin ice here Nikki. The Powers That Be might take away your computer and then where will you be? Selling t-shirts and pretzels on Hollywood Blvd. that’s where! Consider yourself lucky that Pellicano doesn’t break out of prison to put a dead fish on your car windshield. STOP! or they’ll blow up your car!
That raises a good question — what happens to the Dreamworks compound located on the Universal backlot?
Know what’s funny? I was just on the Universal lot the other day for an audition and missed the bungalow for the casting director I was seeing. I had been told by security to hang a larry on Amblin and looped around the ole’ Dreamworks’ doors. I kept thinking to myself, “They seem too high falutin’ to be on this lot somehow.” Sure enough, my gut serves me correctly once more. Syonara, Universal. Dreamworks must now go leech off another studio. Be sure to make good use of those magnificent gates which they used to shield themselves from the other plebians on the lot. Could probably make a little dough off of Ebay or somethin’.
P.S. Nikki didn’t cross the line any more than any other site does. If they didn’t want her to breath a word, that’s what confidentiality agreements are for. I’d have to say she might have been a catalyst more than anything …. all it did was speed the plow.
Wow. I don’t know what’s more shocking…Nikki’s reporting or the story itself. Nikki, you are without a doubt the ballsiest person reporting about showbiz or anything for that matter. I don’t know what fuels your rage-a-holism but it hope it doesn’t failure out too soon. Speaking truth to power in Hollywood is something you can only do for so long before you get tired and become susceptible to selling out or being seduced by the Hollywood love machine.
Till that happens, keep the guns blazing. You may need to get some real guns as if I’m not mistaken someone posted earlier that it might be good to have you killed by some soldier of fortune. Can’t wait to hear the on the record comments about this in the trades. The press release is going to be a laffer.
My final, final comment. Nicky check your last post for a few spell check words.
Now, I remember a commercial closing from a few years ago. The seller threatened to pull the deal. He wanted us to pay the closing costs. ( Not in the contract) He wanted to axe the deal, like Dreamworks). We verbally agreed signed the legal closing doc and got what we wanted and didn’t pay the verbal promise. That’s business. Someone above said this. “it’s just a matter of what will be sacrificed … the arm, the leg. A shame.” That’s contract negotiation.
In response to those who say you shouldn’t pony up your own money go read “you’ll never eat lunch in this town again.” A classic. When Little Steven Spielberg was sitting on Julia Phillip’s couch he should of been taking better notes. She put him on the map with Close Encounters. Jaws was great, but Close won the Oscars and put him on the money trail. To continue that trail:
If you cannot, will not invest your own money, how in the hell can you ask for someone to take out a variable, home equity loan to finance your 40 million in advertising, 350 million dollar over budgeted movies with state, USA and foreign tax credits. That is the question? Answer they wont. People will go see Mall Cop. I hear its going to make 100 million out of theater alone out of a 33 million budget. THAT’S SHOW BIZ, Julia stop laughing.
Dreamworks will defecate, move out of, hassle any studio that doesn’t give them all the goods. Even in this economy. It is loyal to no one.
Spielberg’s greed knows no bounds.
That’s a pretty sweet deal Spielberg has getting 2% of Universal’s theme park take (50 Million). Now is that personal income or does Spielberg lump that into his “business” and pay lower taxes via corporate tax vice personal tax???
Keep em coming, Nikki. Great reporting. DW has been dead in the water for a long time and this only confirms it.
Well how about this? MICKEY MOUSE and E.T. together at Disneyland?
Here’s one, how about these movies studios that are losing money quit spending billions to make films that bash America, are overtly one-sided politically, and are thinly based on reality. Wonder why people don’t want to go to movies? Why pay $10 per person for some multi-millionaires self indulgent opinionated nonsense?It’s such a great business practice to insult 50-60% of your viewing audience so you can go to France or some other exclusive city of the world so you can win awards be praised by other like-minded dolts from around the world.
Great reporting Nikki!!!
I am very pleased hearing this news.
But I will be very disappointed if Disney will sell Miramax or Touchstone. Infact Disney owns these labels, instead it will only DISTRIBUTE DW properties for some years. NO PROPERTIES here. It will not be a smart move for Disney selling their only alternatives to the family movies!!!
Re: get money from Obama. That will NEVER happen as all the “do as I say-not as I do” left-coast elitists would then have to be treated like the rest. IE: give up your corporate jets, give up your SUVs & Limos, give up your bazillion dollar red carpet kiss each other’s asses affairs… I could go on but I think everyone gets the point.
I think Hollywood should take a bailout from Congress and then have their salaries capped at $500,000. Oh wait, they are liberals, so $500,000,000 would be more appropriate.
P.S. Speilberg is a schmuck of the first order.
P.P.S. The post at 10:27 by Dr. Frank E. Stein-or is that middle letter supposed to be an N ?- is a very typical response from an elitist liberal who cannot stand anything that even hints of questioning what another liberal elite says or does. Frankie is a schmuck, also.
I’d be more than happy to see Spielberg put completely out of business, and get rid of the partial monopolies Par/Univ/Diz have. Their gluttony has ruined the biz for the audiences, because their manipulations have done nothing but drive the product cost up without any quality improvements in the movies.
The best films are coming out of creative energies on the indpendent aisles, anyway. Now we just need to break the stranglehold the distributorships have and do more of a laissez faire approach.
I confirmed that Universal didn’t even know that any DreamWorks talks were going on with Disney much less in the final stages until I asked about them.
Sounds a little tortious interference-y to me.
How much did Bernie Madoff walk with?
I’ve just lost all the remaining respect I once had for Spielberg. What a greedy hypocrite, completely out of touch with the common man he claims to relate to.
pay slots. . . why isn’t anyone really talking about the pay-tv “problem” can you make an indie (regardless of scale and drawing power) work w/o a pay deal? and how weak the lack of a pay deal makes any indie?
just wondering. . .
Earth to Anil Ambani…do you know what the word “schmuck” is? Hollywood has been ripping outsiders like you a new one for 60 years. Maybe if you’re worth 40 billion it doesn’t matter. But you know this will end with DreamWorks 3.0 and some other entity backing the Spielberg gang after this loses a ton of cash!
So, Dreamworks dragged intself into the ground and it’s begging for a handout like all these other failed companies?
Would Reliance not demand a material change to SS gross deal in exchange for what is essentially the whole equity investment (and corresponding risk)into DW 2.0 – i mean if the Indians are essentially holding the equity slice of the investment and not directly distributing in the U.S and given that, according to the insider mention in Nikki’s article, “no one makes money” when going into a deal with SS. I.e. revert the upfront gross deal to SS to the backend (or a substantial portion) in the form of equity ownership in DW 2.0. If i were reliance i would certainly seek such a change. Given Uni’s parent Co (GE) and their current issues / commercial real estate / loan exposure – i bet Immelt is reluctant to OK such a equity investment into DW 2.0. Uni has already proven with Relativity that it it prefers others people money in the equity tranche / or prefers a as limited exposure..have more thoughts, but this is enough for now. syndicating that level of debt in this market is tough , essentially in the film biz – where appetite is going away fast..
Half of your audiences despise the liberal outspoken-ness that is Hollywood and aside from refusing to pay a nickel for any of the product, let alone having any interest in a silly story like. To Hollywood, crash and burn. Rid this nation of your anti-American propagands – forever.
Maybe the DREAM no longer WORKS…
Wow, that’s some scoop.
It’s no surprise really, the’ve been trying to get out for a long time,
Things like this happen when you live in a dream world. I am thankful that the so called stimulous package that originally provided for millions to go to Hollywood were pulled from the pork barrel!
please. the arrogance of dreamworks. the sense of entitlement. after all these years, they made a couple of decent movies, a lot of pretentious movies and garbage. their tv business is in the toilet… and their animated division is –despite katzenberg’s hype –unimpressive. as the guy said at universal, what “pigs”
People, please… at least have the sense to realize that the Dreamworks making a deal with Disney is no longer related to Dreamworks Animation… They are two completely different companies.
Seems like there was never an official deal with Universal, so Dreamworks went out and got a better, closeable deal elsewhere. You’d do the same thing if you were selling something: it’s just business.
DREAMWORKS AND UNIVERSAL WERE HAPPENIN’.
THE DEAL WENT FORWARD AND BACK AGAIN.
THEN THE DREAM AND DISNEY,
PULLED A PITT AND JOLIE.
LEAVING UNI THE JENNIFER ANNISTON.