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SATURDAY PM/SUNDAY AM: The other studios are sticking pins in voodoo dolls tonight as the weekend grosses shows Sony boasting both the No. 1 and No. 2 movies in North America. Not even box office poison Woody Harrelson could kill off the hit combo of comedy and deadmen walking as Zombieland opened to $9.4 million both Friday and Saturday (rain on the East Coast helped) from a wide release in 3,036 theaters. That's a strong $25M first weekend, especially since it was produced for under $24M. The pic's buzz was surprisingly good with even critics embracing first-time director Ruben Fleischer. That translated into a CinemaScore of "A-" -- "A" for males, "A-" for females, "A" for everybody under 35. It's Sony's 6th #1 movie of the year.
Meanwhile, starting Week 3, Sony's Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs kept a good hold of -34% (even up against Disney's Pixar 3-D challenge). The toon took in $3.7M Friday, and $7.6M Saturday, from 2,977 runs for a $16.7M weekend and new cume of $82.3M. "I've no idea where the top is now but don't bet less than $115 mil," one Sony exec told me.
For 3rd place, 
Disney had the irresistible notion to release Toy Story I and II as a 3-D combo in 1,745 venues and saw a sizeable Saturday kiddie matinee bump -- from $3.4M Friday to $5.6M Saturday. It's a $12.5M weekend.
Warner Bros' Invention of Lying starring Ricky Gervais came in #4. Gervais is no box office hottie, and the pic opened with $2.4M Friday and $3M Saturday for a $7.3M weekend from just 1,707 runs.
Disney's Bruce Willis fiasco Surrogates was #5 making $2.2M Friday (-55% from a week ago) and $3.2M Saturday for a $7.3M weekend and cume of $26.5M. This is the crappy sci-fi pic which cost $80M and Disney held for a year.
Drew Barrymore helmed that roller derby girl power flick from Fox Searchlight Whip It playing in the same amount of dates, 1,720. But even co-starring Drew (and she flogged the film everywhere), it debuted only #6 with $1.5M Friday and $2M Saturday for a $4.8M weekend.
Michael Moore's purposefully controversial and politically polarizing documentary Capitalism: A Love Story was distributed by Overture Films and wound up in 7th place. It went wide into 962 theaters this weekend after opening on September 23rd in a limited release of 4 theaters. The pic about the financial crisis made $1.6M Friday and $2M Saturday (+33%) for a $4.8M weekend and $5.2M cume. Just for comparison purposes: Moore's most recent Sicko did $4.4 mil its opening weekend from only 441 theaters (and that was with him guesting on The Tonight Show and announcing he'd been subpoenaed by the Bush administration for the health care documentary). And his Fahrenheit 9/11 did $23.9M its opening weekend from 868 venues.) So, as much as the left loves Moore, and the right detests him, and he always uses the ensuing controversy to self-promote, the money angle is only what interests me. The fact is that Capitalism: A Love Story looks like its domestic total will fail to crack $20M and end up his worst performing film since his Oscar-winner Bowling For Columbine in 2002.
The rest of the Top 10 were holdovers: MGM's disastrous Fame flopped to #8 with just $1.4M Friday and $2.1M Saturday (-48% after one week out) for a $4.7M weekend and cume of $16.6M. Warner Bros' Matt Damon starrer The Informant! hangs in for #9 with $1.1M Friday and $1.7M Saturday and $3.8M weekend for a $26.5M cume. Rounding out the Top 10, Universal's Love Happens drops to #10 with just $925K on Friday and $1.2M Saturday and eked out a $2.7M weekend and weak cume of $18.9M.
Also opening was Focus Features' A Serious Man from the Coen Brothers in 6 theaters (NY, LA, and Minneapolis) for $72K Friday and $105K Saturday for a strong per screen average of $12K and $17K. Its weekend take is $251K. The film garnered positive reviews and word-of-mouth from its world premiere at the Toronto Film Festival which attracted the Coens' smarthouse audience as well as older patronage.
Meanwhile, read my posting here how in college towns right now, Paramount's Paranormal Activity is getting freakishly good grosses playing only after midnight.
Overall, it should be a $100M weekend just short (-5%) of last year's total gross.
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jesus, do I have to go check out this meatball film or soemthing? amazing holds!
Let’s hope it’s his worst. The guy is an idiot. What does he mean “…capitalism has done nothing for me…”? It’s only because of capitalism that he can put these stupid movies out and make his millions.. What a jerk!
I think what he does is BRILLIANT! He continues to question our government which is what we are SUPPOSED to do! To just sit back and allow things to happen around us and then complain about it is ridiculous. He is voicing his opinion AND backing it up with valid resources. These things are happening in our country. If you are foolish enough to belive that the government gives ONE CRAP about you or me, you ARE WRONG! I will buy his video and the reason I didn’t go see it in a theater is because I will be appalled at some of the things he uncovers and can gasp aloud at home! I say Michael, keep up the good work, I wish you continued success! Thank you for giving the other side of the story!
‘the government’ isn’t who this lard -a@@ takes on– you won’t hear a word from him about THIS government– B Frank not paying taxes, the fawning media hypocrisy… he won’t even mention that the anointed one quadrupled the deficit during his first 6 months in office! What are the odds that M Moore does a film on the debt? Pretty small, now that his party has blown our economy to smithereens with their pay-offs to unions. But he LIKES the unions, so don’t look for a story on them either.
The guy doesn’t need you to cheer him on- he makes millions of dollars from fools like you! They call people like you ‘useful idiots’, by the way.
He LIKES the unions….. but not quite enough to use union workers on his films. To any critical thinker, Michael Moore is not only a hypocrite, he’s an obvious sociopath.
obviously you’re a glen beck loving sycophant teabagger who judges the film solely on the “facts” that foxnews shovels to you.
if not, then learn a bit more about the film before criticizing.
i saw the film and it surprised me that more swipes were taken at those working with democrats than republicans. yes, there are mentions to president bush. but why not? you conveniently forget that we went from a surplus to being billions in dept during his 8 years in office as well as his urging that aig and other corporations need to receive the bailout money.
as far as president obama increasing the debt. yes, the stimulus money increased it but it went/is supposed to go towards jobs and supporting states budgets that are bleeding red. again, you fail to notice the billions of dollars that were not even used in regular budgets for wars in iraq and afghanistan. and that includes billions wasted by companies friendly to the administration.
so, if you’re going to criticize, have the facts and don’t just blindly overlook one political party while going after another. you make yourself sound like the caricature you created of moore and his films.
The Guy just admitted That he is a Communist. What does that say about you? Did you say your name was Lennon or Castro?
It’s Lenin, Mr. Henson. It’s as though you have watched far too many Frank Capra films this weekend. We discuss the motion picture business here, not politics. Please, google Dalton Trumbo. Learn something.
“Thank you for giving the other side of the story!”
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How about only a lop sided “side” of the story. If the man is so “brilliant” why is it he only targets conservatives, Republicans, Bush and now capitalism? Surely, he could corner Barney Frank or Chris Dodd and question their “capitalistic motives for protecting Fanni Mae and Freddie Mac or– for that matter, Countrywide!
In “Roger and Me”, he never questions the union and their role in making GM plants in Michigan un-competitive. He never filmed a union member sabotaging cars as they rolled off the line. Stuffing stinking lunch bags behind the trim panels, and not properly assembling the car so that it comes off the line with rattles and chafing wire harnesses.
He points out the failures of capitalism but ignores it’s multi fold success! Did he list what capitalism has brought us? Did he point out, for example how Communism brought us the Yugo while capitalism brought us the Prius? Do you want to live in a tribal society? Are you ready to live in a hut and haul water from a stream? It is a shame (sham) that so many watch this film and swallow it, hook line and sinker as “reality” in their dog-matic, victim mentality, conspiracy on every corner, fervor.
Michael Moore has done us all a service with his films. He has shown us that there are many out there with such a narrow view that he can make millions pandering to them!
This movie has nothing to do with Michael Moore having a gripe against the United States Government. Rather, it’s his condemnation of capitalism, which is and has been the foundation that this country’s commerce and subsequence successes was built upon. That’s why the majority of the public will not spend their hard earned money to support it. Incidentally, this current administration shares the same view as Michael Moore, and interestingly, it is rapidly losing the support of the American citizens. Since the founding of the ‘Republic’ (not Democracy) the citizen of this country have always placed the government under scrutiny, it didn’t start with Michael Moore. He simply figured out a way to profit from it. How capitalistic of him.
As long as he donates all his proceeds to the state for the collective and for the “betterment of society” he will not be deemed as a hypocrite. I believe his philosophy is inconsistent, therefore he is a compromised man.
If only he didn’t make up so much of his material.
“Thanks for giving the other side to the story”?
A pro-holocaust film, would be the other side of the story.
A earth is flat film, would be the other side of the story.
A human sacrifice is not so bad film, would be the other side of the story.
Lot’s of people push “other side of the story,” but when they’re on the wrong side of the story, they’re still just as wrong.
T says:
“To just sit back and allow things to happen around us and then complain about it is ridiculous.”
And T says:
“I will be appalled at some of the things he uncovers and can gasp aloud at home!”
Way to stick it to the man T.
Valid resources? The man has no valid resources. He couldn’t even accurately document the health care systems of other countries in “Sicko”. True, he does raise ~some~ valid questions, but given the ever expanding amount of fiction mixed in with fewer documented facts I have a very difficult time taking the man seriously.
Interesting to see that the comments with the most snipe are coming from people who have not even seen the film.
If ignorance is bliss you all must be smiling from ear to rear…
Why do you hate our country?
No, I haven’t seen any of his movies. Then again, I haven’t drank a bottle of Drain-O either and I hold that to be equally poisonous. But since you’re such an empirical idiot, why don’t you try the Drain-O and we’ll both know?
It’s truly takes a liberal to drag out that non-sequitor. No chance of you actually visiting the facts of the arguements, just throwing insults and non-seqs. It’d be nice to have an intelligent argument *on the facts* with a liberal, but I don’t think that’s possible any longer in this country. Haven’t seen that in years.
Interesting to see that the comments with the most snipe are coming from people who have not even seen the film.
If ignorance is bliss you all must be smiling from ear to rear…
Why do you hate our country?
Well said.
Whip It suffered for the same reason Jennifer’s Body. It’s not hatred of Megan Fox, it’s not that it’s a “chick flick” (at all, as the movie is pretty damn good), it’s Juno fatigue/hatred of all things Diablo Cody. People are sick of her overexposure. It’s not jealousy, it’s annoyance. Plain and simple. People don’t like anyone shoved down their throats via the media machine. It’s not sexism, it’s famewhoring backlash. You can’t talk about haters and anti-feminists when people are still peeved that she was only discovered because of sex, yet won’t shut up about her good fortune.
I noticed in your comment you wrongheadedly conflated “Whip It” with Diablo Cody. She had nothing to do with this Drew Barrymoore flick, though Cody’s friend, Shauna Cross, did write it. But only H-wood insiders would be aware of that connection, not regular ole movie lovers in, say, Kansas City, Mo. or Yardley, Pa.
Just sayin…
I mean this all-hate for Cody has reached endemic proportions, but please get your facts straight before throwing verbal bombs….
I happened to see Whip It as a preview and really liked it, not more than I did Zombieland. Soooo I am wondering who out there can tell me why a strong female-driven/directed/produced film targeting young women (the Means Girls flick crowd) is laying an egg….
I guess that old saw rings true: Nobody in Hollywood knows nothing.
I for sure thought Whip It would whip it (the Box Office) good.
Hi
Saw Whip It yesterday with my 18 year old ( I’m the 54 year old dad ) and loved it!! Great pic!!
I don’t come to this site often, just wanted to give you my take on it. I like movies a lot and think that above and beyond the obvious “star qualities” that draw people in to a show, it really is all about the media campaign, or lack there of.
Anyhow, really liked it, hope you will to.
ps , for what it’s worth, I like to use the Fandango Fan (not critic) Reviews as a guide. They have served me well in gaging / picking a movie
The “Juno fatigue” I assume references Ellen Page, not Shauna Cross. Since Ellen Page is the face of Juno.
I don’t agree with the theory anyways. I just don’t think the film looked very good to most people, while Zombieland and maybe Invention of Lying did.
What does Diablo Cody have to do with Whip It?
Since Drew Barrymore is 500 times more exposed than Diablo Cody, you might as well call it a Drew Barrymore backlash. Fortunately for Drew, that’s probably not what is going on. The movie looks boring and opening weekend is all about marketing. The movie could be the Mona Lisa of films, but if the marketing makes it look dull, no one will show up.
What exactly does Diablo Cody have to do with this movie? She didn’t write it. She didn’t produce it. She didn’t direct it. Does this mean that Ellen Page has to refuse future gigs because of Ms. Cody?
By your logic, if Jason Reitman’s Up in the Air underperforms, it will be because of Diablo Cody fatigue?
I think people assume it’s written by Diable Cody since it seems similar in style. Plus, there were a lot of good options this weekend – Zombies! 3-D Toy Story! Ricky Gervais! The competition was tough. I want to see Whip It but I’m not sure it would be my first choice among all these – I’ll see Invention of Lying first.
I notice you said Moore movie opened strong. That weekend prediction doesn’t sound very big.
I Agree with Alton, its not jealousy or hatred but it is an annoyance. The media shoves this movie and other movies down our throats and expect us to watch it like sheep. The audience will watch what we want to watch.
Capitalism?
Michael Moore claims it didn’t do anything for him, yet he seems to be doing much better than most Americans.
I vote with my buck. I vote no-Moore!
Isn’t it ironic that “Capitalism” isn’t expected to do well? Seriously… isn’t that what capitalism is all about? Make something that people want to buy, and they will buy it. Ain’t America great? (At least, it still is for the near future, if we have anything to say about it. November 2010… bring it.)
I guess we’re telling Michael “that’s the good thing about capitalism, it weeds out the junk”.
I bet Ricky Gervais believes there is a God now.
Why would he? It was Conan who hit his head last week, not Ricky
Good for Zombieland. Looks like a lot of fun. I agree with the Diablo/Ellen Page remarks… Page’s career has stalled out. PEACOCK is a piece of crap and she bolted on Sam Raimi’s ‘Drag Me To Hell’ which was one of the best films of the summer.
The New Bev Cinema is screening a critical darling on Sunday night… Mike Dougherty’s ‘Trick ‘r Treat’ which was executive produced by Bryan Singer. Talk about Warner Bros. screwing the pooch on that film…it’s one of the best horror films of the past decade. Halloween made a mark in 1978, well, Trick will definitely leave its mark on dvd sales. I highly suggest seeing this film on the big screen. Well worth the 7 dollar fee… yes, double features at the new bev are only 7 bucks – 2 films.
Zombieland rocks. Lots of style, with one of the best cameos ever!
I saw the sneak for Whip It last week. There’s a reason it didn’t open. People like everyone in my theater telling people to avoid avoid avoid.
Actually, Capitalism is doing pretty well. Everyone seems to think that Michael Moore films are supposed to be box office smashes, but keep in mind that Fahrenheit 9/11 was the first and last doc to open with double digits. Excluding Borat, of course. Capitalism is already ahead of Sicko and will probably gross over $25 million domestic. I’m hoping to see it Sunday.
Borat was more of a documentary than any Moore film to date.
Surely you can find a BETTER use for YOUR money than give it too that POS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why?? Have you heard him on any of the talk shows? He makes more sense than any politician. He predicted the crisis with the auto industry way before it even surfaced. He is one smart guy.
Moore did not predict the crisis in the auto industry. What garbage. The problems in the auto industry have been in the works for a very long times-perhaps as long as 30 years. The cost structure of the American Auto Industry has made it impossible to compete with imports. Detriot must spend about $2,300/car just for LEGACY costs. That’s what it cost them to pay for people who no longer work there. This came about from agreements with the UAW that go way back. GM, Ford and Chrysler must be allowed to get out from under these agreements or we will not have an auto industry. Moore will never make a film about this. The fat pig is simply too stupid to make a movie about serious problem that isn’t completely biased.
Let me know how that goes for you.I’m always interested in people that are bigoted and biased such as you mr pudge. He probably will not even cover the ad blitz
Moore hates America, and obviously hates himself. Why support a man who can’t name one good thing about this country? And why support a millionaire stupid enough to say said, “Capitalism never helped me”, as he did last week to a reporter. A Hollywood elite, living in a bubble.
yeah…like i want to see a film about a millionaire bashing on millionaires! it’s right there with al gore and global warmimg! i hear al gore was giving autographs out side of his private jet!
So what?? At least he provides health and dental care to all of them and has been doing it for years. He is sharing some of his wealth with the people that need it, his employees!!!! What the heck is wrong with you???
Moore is not “sharing” his wealth with his employees. He is making them WORK for their pay, like the capitalist pig that he is. Since he hates capitalism so much, I’d like to see him GIVE AWAY all of the proceeds from his last two films. After all, he has more money than he needs, even for his humongous body. He should donate all of his profits to the people in American Samoa who were hit by the tsunami. (In fact, I’d LOVE to see the extent of his charitable giving in the last few years. I’ll bet it’s next to nothing, compared with the money he’s raked in.)
actually that’s not true, he used non union labor to make the movie. No benefits for them.
Wow that’s alot of Capital! And 25 million World Citizens saw Sicko…wow again! Your full of great news…thanks DK (Dairy King) we could get anymore from this udder-ance.
Considering it wasn’t a true documentary… more like fantasy, full of half truths and out and out lies…He is not capable of producing anything factually based.
Wow, “Capitalism” is already ahead of “Sicko”? That is like saying “Ghost Dad” made more money than “Leonard Part 6″. Both films were total bombs. I wonder, does Capitalism have more readily-demonstrable lies than the other “documentaries” made by Moore? Does “Capitalism” also show Moore allowing himself to be used as a propaganda tool like Castro used him in “Sicko”, or does he keep his fawning over murderous dictators and their regimes to a minimum in this one?
You go guy. Give MM your 12.00 you idiot. That’s capitalism buddy..only in MM’s favor. But you libtards have been buying into that BS for 40 yrs.
And you can go watch Glenn Beck??? Whats the difference?? Your all fools to think any information you process isn’t bias.
Gosh,judging from your approval of Michael Moore’s “Hate America” movies, I guess you are probably a communist or perhaps a socialist. I am not sure where Michael Moore fits in our society, but judging by how much he hates this country, I would say he is probably a communist. (I believe I read someplace that the reason he makes these movies is because he loves his country so much, but that is really hard to believe.)
Oh for God’s sakes Alton, give it up. The only people who are that riled up by Diablo Cody are creeps like you. Whip It always had an uphill battle. It’s unfortunate for Drew Barrymore, who by all accounts is a sweetheart. The sad thing is, it seems like a genuinely good movie, especially for teens who have crap shoved at them 24/7.
But then again Zombieland is getting the teen audience this weekend. It is a hit, and deservedly so. One of the funniest flicks I’ve seen in a LONG time. I rarely say this, but I hope there’s a sequel.
Alton: Diablo Cody didn’t have anything to do with Whip It. The only connection to Juno is the fact that both movies have the same star. Take your misogynistic hatred of Diablo elsewhere, please.
Get real. Michael Moore’s film bombed. You’re letting your ideology get in the way of the numbers.
Not at all. Remember, it’s a documentary. Fahrenheit 9/11 was a perfect-place-perfect-time fluke; look at the numbers for Moore’s other films. And the numbers for all other documentaries. Nobody expected this one to compete with Zombieland.
Uh, no. Capitalism is NOT a documentary, just like Fahrenheit 9/11 and everything else hes done wasnt. A documentary typically shows the truth about a subject and leaves bias out of it. Michael Moore DOESNT make documentaries. He makes movies showing his opinions of how he thinks things look between the stacks of cheeseburgers, milkshakes, money and anti-depressants.
Its hard to find a true documentary these days, with all the Discovery Channel BS shows, The History Channel changing history to fit its viewer-ship and the lack of true, honest journalists.
The only reason that fat overexposed hypocrite calls his movies “documentaries” is so he can try and win an easy category at the oscars.
absolutely true unlike Moore’s films
You are so right! The ignorance of people never seizes to amaze me. I find it astounding how some people do not know what a documentary is. I am often amazed at how some people will say something is bad (or good) based on whether they like (or dislike) the person who made it. And lastly, I am always aggravated by people who can not tell the difference between a display of opinion and a display of fact.
And to all of those ignorant lil children who are still living on their parents dime, while berating capitalism and cheering for Socialist government programs (because America is ’so rich’); let’s see how you feel when you move out on your own, get a real job, and a mortgage and begin to understand what “paying taxes” really means.
Absolutely right Khalil7,
When I was younger, I was easy influenced by populist trash like Moore’s films. Now that I run a homeless shelter in Portland, OR, I can truly see the arrogance of Moore fans. It’s always gov’t and conservatives that fund our chartable programs, never the Moore loving, capitalism bashing wackos that support movies like this. The hypocrisy would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.
I CEASED to be amazed by ignorant mass culture consumers a long time ago. Capitalism is Moore’s best film to date, and does a great job of showing how it’s not the government that robbing you, it’s big business that’s robbed the average american worker of their American dream so the established Aristocracy can continue to dominate American Government, at your peril. So instead of blaming The Liberals, take a look at the business models that have destroyed the American economy, your mortgage payments, your job. Wake up.
You are conflating documentaries with news reports. Documentaries are the film equivalent of an op-ed piece. They are supposed to have a point of view.
Please point me to one, just one, documentary that shows the universal, objective truth about a subject.
“Documentaries are the film equivalent of an op-ed piece.”
That is a very revealing and scary statement.
On MM’s films being documentaries:
The sun rises in the North. There, because I said it, it’s true. Nothing to argue about. Settled science. Now move along to complain about Diablo Cody.
HaHa G Butler! I always thought the north, too!
Wow. I say it’s a documentary to make a point about its BOX OFFICE POTENTIAL and suddenly the anti-Moore freaks come out in full force. Look, I don’t like the guy either, but that’s not whatsoever what I was talking about. Can we stop this whole “his movies aren’t documentaries” B.S.? I was distinguishing “Capitalism” from “Zombieland”, not trying to start a fight about how badly he fudges his facts.
I think Ricky Gervais is hilarious. I love both the UK version of The Office and Extras. I don’t think his films are all that great, though. There doesn’t seem to be enough of a story to sustain 1.5 – 2 hours.
It doesn’t help that I’m not a Jennifer Garner fan at all.
Dan..it was a damn funny movie. Mr T stole the show…
How can a movie like Fame, that cost eighteen million to make, be considered a “disaster?” It will earn back its production budget after just a little more than two weeks in theaters. After all is said and done, it will break even for MGM, and make a decent profit for Lakeshore overseas. A profound disappointment, you bet. But a disaster? Nope.
Now, Surrogates — that’s a disaster. Cost five times as much to make as Fame did.
Bewildered,
Judging from your less than insightful remarks, you must work for MGM’s “bewildered” marketing department trying to justify your less than . I would agree that disaster may be a bit strong but Fame is a big money loser none the less. You must have gone to the George W. Bush School of Fuzzy Math. Fame will not earn back it’s production budget in two weeks. And judging from the weak hold in it’s second week end, it may never…at least from box office revenues. MGM will collect no more than 50% of the box office. After next weekend with Monday through Thursday $ and a modest 50% drop Friday through Sunday, Fame’s total box office will be no more than $20 million. You do the math.
The Geo W. Bush School of fuzzy math? I’ll remind you it was Bush who ran both a major enterprise and an entire state, had a serious degree, piloted advanced Air Force hardware, and contrary to Hollywood, read voraciously. While he was indeed another in the lineage from that lousy, globalist Bush household, he was no dummy.
It’s Obama who is piloting what seems destined to be the worst and most damaging presidency in a century or more, and thinks His Person globally stands in for of actual diplomacy and accomplishment. He is a farce and a fiasco — he even blew a bid for the silly Olympics.
As to fuzzy math, the Democrat Supermajority, on the heels of a string of Democrat congresses going back a half century with few exceptions, has worked hand in hand with the very bank cartel Moore thinks he has such an issue with. This cartel wants nothing more than to put the US impossibly in debt because debt is control.
Let me repeat that: Moore had better take a heck of a long look at the American political left, where he will find every ingredient he needs to prove that US federal government is hellbent to bankrupt the nation so as to empower itself and its bank handlers.
Starting with the most powerful bank on earth, the Federal Reserve. There’s your fuzzy math.
The current Washington DC/Wall Street gang is, in terms of wealth and value destroyed and stolen, the worst collaboration between official thieves in the history of humanity. I suggest you brush up on your…perspective.
Ten, the only business Dubya ran was The Texas Rangers which filed for bankruptcy. And the only country he ran was America from 2001-2009 which ended up nearly filing for bankruptcy!
LOL! I don’t know where you get your propaganda from, but let me fill you in on the truth. Not only was the Ranger franchise not the first business he had run, the Rangers didn’t file for bankruptcy. As a matter of fact, they did quite well while he was managing partner.
Wow, Ten. You managed to get almost everything about Dubya completely wrong. For starters he ruined every business he tried running, businesses that were only given to him because of family connections. His “serious degree” was in History, which he obtained with a 1.9 GPA. Interestingly, he displayed almost no actual knowledge of history in his eight years as chief executive–he thinks the moral of the Vietnam War was “We’ll win unless we quit.” Guy had no clue about why things happened or what there was to learn from what has already happened. There’s no evidence he piloted anything since he went AWOL when he was supposed to show up for flight tests. As for reading voraciously, what, you have spy cams in his bedroom or something? We all know he drank and did drugs voraciously, it’s in the public record…but he said his mom used to read him A Very Hungry Caterpillar when he went to bed, a book that hadn’t been released until he was in his 20s. Some reader! Finally, as for the “he’s no dummy” claim, I would refer you to any speech he made during his entire tenure as President.
Despite all of that, though, you’re absolutely right about Obama and Moore. Back in 2004-5 I honestly thought that 2008 would be a wonderful year because there was no way we could end up with somebody worse than Dubya. I was living in Illinois and Obamaphilia was at fever pitch since he just won a Senate seat, and people were immediately talking about him for Pres and I rolled my eyes and said, “No, he’s an even bigger idiot than Bush, this country will have learned its lesson and bypass idiots for the next election cycle.” How I wish I wasn’t so wrong on that one.
Stop the lies. Bush had several successful businesses, and he has a degree from Yale and an MBA from Harvard. Your 1.9 GPA is ludicrous. No one has EVER said that they know of him using drugs, and he has never said that he did, either. He quit drinking in 1986. Oh, and it’s common knowledge among those who know him that he is a voracious reader. Look it up, and quit making up trash.
Dubya’s failed businesses include Arbusto Energy, which he took to the brink of financial collapse and had to be merged with Spectrum 7; then, as chairman of Spectrum 7, he reported a loss of $1.5 million the year before selling it to Harken Energy. There, I have given you examples of his failed businesses, try providing an example of his “several successful” ones.
Re: GPA. Dubya himself often joked about his less than stellar grade averages so I was being equally tongue in cheek. His overall average at Yale was roughly a C or a little higher, by some reports, and as far as I know nothing has been released about his Harvard grades.
His non-denials about cocaine use are well documented and many people do in fact claim they know he used cocaine. You can choose not to believe them but don’t claim that no one has said he’s done it. Also nice wording on “he has never said he did,” because we both know he doesn’t outright deny cocaine use either. If you’ve never done drugs in your life, would you give a “no comment” when asked about it? Especially since a denial could only help your political career?
Yeah like people who know him are going to tell you he’s illiterate. All I know is that if Dubya was really reading A Very Hungry Caterpillar in his 20s then it wouldn’t be surprising if he managed to finish several books a year, which would be enough for many people to call that “voracious” reading.
To Alton and Jerry: is it really Juno fatigue? Mind you I try my damndest to stay away from the Hollywood hype machine so I wouldn’t know if Cody’s overexposure is an annoyance or not, but could it just be that the trailers weren’t that well cut and failed to generate that “must see factor?” I mean there’s so many variables to consider here.
I’ll bet you this though, if the movie showed a Megan Fox raunchy nude sex scene and was actually scary then I think it would’ve done reasonably well, but from what I was told the filmmakers punked out. As for Whip It’s low numbers, I can’t explain it. The public just wasn’t buying it. And let’s face it, there’s just too many damn movies being released. People need a break damnit.
Agreed.
Wow, looking at those “meatballs” numbers convinces me I need to write a kids movie. Glad to see Zombieland doing so well…good for them.
@ Jerry for 926 theaters it is… it’s 6000 avg
Jerry, that’s a great number for a documentary on that amount of screens.
Alton – you realize that WHIP IT is not a Diablo Cody film in any sense right? It shares the same star as JUNO, but that’s it.
JENNIFER’S BODY had a weak marketing campaign, and it wasn’t for everybody.
WHIP IT, by many accounts isn’t for everybody either. The marketing is better than that of J-BOD, but roller derby is still a fringe sport.
Ya know, if women are so ‘annoyed’ with Diablo Cody (who has done nothing to them other than make one good movie and one so-so one) that they’ll take it out on Ellen Page and ignore a really good, genuinely feminist movie, then they deserve to have nothing aimed at them except more variations of Jennifer Anniston or Katherine Heigl starring in “I’m Nothing Without A Man”. This is the same as parents complaining about quality family movies and then ignoring The Iron Giant. It’s the same as horror nerds complaining about remakes and reboots, yet ignoring Drag Me To Hell and Jennifer’s Body. Reap what you sow, alas.
“I’m Nothing Without a Man” = Great Title.
Moore’s movie is a documentary regardless of the fact that it is Moore. Those numbers are strong.
Michael Moore’s prior performances at the box office:
Movie Name 1st weekend
Capitalism: A Love Story $401,689
Sicko $68,969
Fahrenheit 9/11 $23,920,637
Bowling for Columbine $209,148 $21,576,018
The Big One $146,909 $146000
Canadian Bacon
Roger & Me $84,200
Just so people can place numbers in context versus just making crap up.
Total Grosses $173,235,283
Average Gross $24,747,898
Average Opening Weekend $4,885,979
So your point is Capitalism works…right? So where does all that money go back to the people?
I wonder whose numbers we should believe, yours or Nikki’s at the top of the page???? We do have to choose.
Hmmm, I was planning to see Surrogates tonight (I thought the storyline was great, but maybe they didn’t execute), but might see the Zombieland instead. It’s gotten good reviews from users and critics. And for under $24 million – Nice job.
None of these movies looked good and are preforming weak. “Whip It” and “Zombieland” have zero interest to a movie guy who sees almost anything. “Shutter Island” would been perfect this weekend. Many of my movie going friends are itching to see a movie, but nothing looks good. Not surprised all the geeks went gaga for Zombies.
Michael Moore’s movie preforming ’strong’ might be a stretch, Nikki. Though a 1.6 million Friday on 900+ screens is decent especially considering its a documentary on the economy, it underperformed. In Denver, many theaters have “Capitalism” on two screens! Even in the conservative Greenwood Village! IMO, its over-exposed in my market.
Alton is right and Alton is wrong. It isn’t entirely Diablo Cody that was overexposed. It was the whole Juno, Fox Searchlight, film festival fave kind of movie that got – not overexposed but exposed by Juno’s success.
I have always said it isn’t the movie or CD that tanks that is the problem, it’s the movie or CD that isn’t very good and sells millions. Because that experience leaves a bad taste in the mouth for months and years. And the audience never forgets.
Juno was a cute little film for a very specialized audience that should have made about 40-50 mil and sent the producers home happy. Instead it broke through into the mainstream and it just wasn’t that good. Then it got even more unwarranted hype from the Oscars and Diablo won her Oscar. It was too much and it shouldn’t have happened.
Look for Up In The Air to underperform as well. It will have all those “from the director of Juno” quotes all over the place and it stars box office poison George Clooney. I think it will do better than the other two films because it is getting some serious, strong reviews but it won’t do as well as people think.
So, it is somehow Juno’s fault that it made over $100 million and won an Oscar? What should the producers have done differently? Withdrawn the film? Refused the Oscar?
I’m not sure Clooney is “poison”, either. Burn After Reading made money, the Oceans films made money, Michael Clayton made money. He’s at least attempting to make some films outside of his comfort zone instead of fourth rate Heigl rom-coms.
I didn’t say the producers shouldn’t have done everything they could to make it a hit, I merely said they did too good of a job.
As for Clooney, the Ocean’s movies were hits because of the other people in the cast. Damon is generally a winner, and Brad Pitt is probably the biggest star in the world right now. Check his grosses. Domestically he does quite well, and overseas he kills.
Check Clooney’s BO and you’ll see that he loses money almost every time out. Burn After Reading wasn’t really a hit even with Brad Pitt in it and Michael Clayton made 49 mil domestic and 92 mil worldwide after an expensive Oscar campaign and a wide release. That’s hardly a hit.
I’m also curious why people on here are blasting Katherine Heigl. She’s starred in what, 3 films? One was a funny reinvention of modern comedy by Judd Apatow, and while the other two flicks were Rom-Coms she’s mostly known for her television work at this point.
A more intelligent reference might be a Kate Hudson or Sandra Bullock Rom-Com, don’t ya think.
Clooney is “Poison”, Burn After Reading and the Oceans Movies would have done just as well with any other actor because it already had Pitt whose movies always do well internationally, the same cannot be said for most movies that Clooney has done. Michael Clayton could not have made any money and his oscar nomination for that movie was so undeserved.
Took 10 13-year-olds to Zombieland and the dug the heck out of it! Had been anticipating this film for weeks, watching the trailers and clips over and over, busting a gut every time. LOVE Ricky Gervais and would still like to see Invention of Lying, but Ghost Town (or whatever it was called was so disappointing!).
you are calling invention of lying a “sleeper”? wow. it tanked.
Invention cost $4million to make. Do the math.
Ricky Gervais said it cost $18.5 million. That’s before P&A.
“Toy Story 2″ is one of the best animated movies ever (I’m actually not being hyperbolic), so it’s good to see it doing well at theaters again.
Also, any excuse to bring a classic back to the big screen is a-okay with me. For obvious reasons it rarely happens anymore, but I wish it did.
Drew Barrymore is no Cameron Diaz.
The “Diablo Cody backlash” is really quirky-girls-being-quirky backlash, which has been done to death in recent years, in the same way the audience is sick of stoner-guys-being-stoners. There are interesting girls out there who aren’t quirky. There are funny guys who aren’t stoners. The problem is that a few of these movies were successful, so now everything for the teen audience must feature the quirky girl and her stoner boyfriend, with occasional forays into the quirky guy and his zany stoner girl to keep things fresh.
“There are funny guys who aren’t stoners.” Nuh-uh. There aren’t.
It’s hard for me to know what’s coming out until just a week or two before the films open. I don’t read any magazines. I don’t watch the entertainment news shows. It doesn’t seem like any films are able to generate online interest with websites, anymore. So what’s left? A star’s brief appearance on a late-night talk show, and trailers, of course. The trailers have become everything. Hollywood needs to become MUCH more creative and innovative when it comes to promoting films.
As for the WHIP IT advertisements, it just looked like girls roller skating around in circles, with contrived love interests thrown in. That’s what I got, from the trailer.
With regard to Zombies, well, I think Zombies are great. Why? What is it, psychologically, that is attractive about them, after all this time? Could it be that we all feel like we live in a psychotic world, where we are powerless against scary, imcomprehensible forces? And we want to take some vicarious control,in a fun way? Even if the premise is absurd?
The films that will succeed will be the ones that successfully tap into the nation’s psyche, and that satisfy an emotional NEED.
Lame, contrived storylines with familiar stars will not do it.
mileshigh, ZOMBIELAND is performing incredibly well for a horror/comedy. I have no idea how you can say it is performing weakly. Its gross will exceed the production budget by Monday morning. And it’s not just for geeks, it plays with all kinds of audiences.
As for SHUTTER ISLAND, it would likely not open as well as THE DEPARTED – which opened to a strong 26m – about the same amount ZOMBIELAND made this weekend. This is the fall, not summer.
I misspoke on Zombieland. I have not interest in seeing it because it looks weak, not that it is preforming weak. My bad! I agree that those numbers are very good and better then I was anticipating. Zombieland is taking advantage of an empty market.
I’m a misogynist?
If I were a misogynist, I wouldn’t have supported “Whip It” on opening weekend, and I wouldn’t have made a specific point to note that it was “pretty damn good.” Judging by the fact that we’re lamenting its performance, I’m probably one of the only guys in America who *did* go out and support it, rather than join everyone else for Zombieland. I wanted to see Capitalism, but was more interested in giving my money to Whip.
If I were a misogynist, I wouldn’t know who Amy Pascal and Stacey Snider are. I wouldn’t know how Stacey Snider spells her first name differently from your standard “Stacy.”
No, I’m just trying to point out that while Diablo Cody is brilliant and otherwise charming, and yes, has offered something special to the world that enriches our lives, I (and a great number of individuals throughout this country) cannot stand her constant yapping. Did Nancy Oliver say, “Hey, I wrote a movie about a man, and it starred one of the most adored actors in America?” Did Tamara Jenkins go nuts with PR? I support women like K. Bigelow and K. Pearce. Hell, I saw freaking Calendar Girls in the theaters. When you throw around the word “misogynist” every time someone disagrees with your viewpoint, it does a disservice when it comes to shining a spotlight on true misogyny.
Jennifer’s Body was not marketed poorly. Women can’t stand Megan Fox, not just because she talks a lot, but because their boyfriends and husbands, even if *they* can’t stand her, the fear is that she’s the archetype for what men wack off to. They don’t like that she was “hot,” but then got plastic surgery to make herself even more “hot.” I’m sorry, but I can admit that Diablo’s first appearance on Letterman was brilliant. I still remember it. Funny and smart and charming. Well, Fox on Conan the other night, had a great, great line about how she listens to Britney Spears on airplanes to cure her fear of flying, “Because I figured out at some point that it’s not my destiny to die when listening to Britney Spears, so now I just listen to it while in the air and I’m good to go.” Conan laughed in that genuine way he laughs, not the canned, polite one. It’s just she is unaware of how much onslaught of PR she does. She says, “If a guy wrote JUNO, there wouldn’t be this backlash.” Uh, a guy wouldn’t have been asked to write a script by another guy surfing for porn, and he wouldn’t have gotten all the exposure she did. The shoe incident, the open Myspace letter, those didn’t help her either. Hell, I saw her talking to Peter Travers about how, “No one in the history of cinema has ever done what I’ve done.”
Look, her accomplishment are extraordinary and she has talent. I’m glad she’s not making stupid, cookie cutter movies. But, Shane Black sold Lethal Weapon for millions in the 80’s when being a millionaire meant something, and he did it in his early 20’s. Say what you want about the guy, that’s an extraordinary accomplishment as well. He’s a great-looking dude; but you didn’t see him EVERYWHERE. It’s just too much, and yes, the catch-phrases and puns are silly. It’s not just marketing, it’s overexposure. Even she has now caught on to her stupid pseudonym. If anything, it’s HIPSTER backlash. If there’s misogyny, which, sure, there is, it’s because guys look at her and say, “She was a stripper? Uh, she’s not hot.” As if the sex trade is defined by dancers who look like actresses or porn stars. But people picked up newspaper after newspaper, and saw Diablo Cody as her pen name, and were like? WTF? It’s not like her name was Sarah Hyman or Shanna Goldenfarb where middle America wouldn’t accept her. She *is* middle America. And has a lovely, lovely name. And sorry but that Myspace F.U. turned a lot of people off. It’s tough out there; no one wants to be reminded that they’re never going to accomplish they’re precious little dream, but D.C. shoves her success down people’s throats.
Sorry, but to accuse me of misogyny is just misguided, and silly. People will watch Ellen Page in that new Dicaprio/Chris Nolan movie, but did you go see previews when Whip It came on? You could audibly hear people groaning “Ugh. Juno.”
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I just got Vera Drake (and In The Company of Men) in the mail.
-A twenty-five year old guy with a wonderful mom, 2 wonderful sisters, a wonderful girlfriend, lots of wonderful female friends, and a female cat.
Right on! I’m a woman and I feel the same exact way you do about the overexposure of this pop culture phenom. I eagerly await the day when her 15 minutes are over. I just hope the next one isn’t even more grating that this one.
“-A twenty-five year old guy with a wonderful mom, 2 wonderful sisters, a wonderful girlfriend, lots of wonderful female friends, and a female cat”
…and apparently way too much time on his hands. Drop it.
Alton
the problem with your earlier post is that you sounded unnecessarily venomous. And you touched a nerve, so what?
Also, shane black made 250,000 for Lethal Weapon. He made his big paydays with The Last Boy Scout, The Long Kiss Good Night, and The Last Action Hero. Those are the reasons he went away, until Joel Silver, perhaps out of pity I don’t know, helped him out with Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.
A better analogy with regard to the Diablo phenomenon is the press that Ben Affleck and Matt Damon received after they wrote (with help) Good Will Hunting. They were awfully overexposed at the time, and for a long, long, long time afterwards.
And what about Tarantino after Pulp Fiction?
People like success stories. We can’t control the media. If it’s overkill, time will fix that.
And by the way, BOTH men AND women want to have sex with Angelina. That’s the difference between her and Megan Fox. That, plus acting ability.
So relax, dude. Pet your cat. Life’s short.
And by the way, BOTH men AND women want to have sex with Angelina.
Hmmmmm NOOOOPE
Actually Angelina was consider a sex symbol at some point but nowadays she is not a big deal. She has the worse body in Hollywood and she is looking scary skinny these days. She has fans but that’s far from everybody.
Angelina still seems to be the popular answer for women to “Who would you go gay for?” She’s still considered a sex symbol even if you and some others don’t personally like her. That’s not a status that’s easy to lose, excluding Britney/Lindsay level meltdowns.
Also, 2008 saw Ms. Jolie star in a successful action flick and get Oscar-nominated for Best Actress in another film. I’d say she’s still “a big deal,” even without a 2009 release.
Your lengthy essay still doesn’t explain what Diablo Cody has to do with WHIP IT. Anyone who makes the association simply because of Ellen Page’s presence is severely shortsighted and/or a fool. And I weep for any of the smart, ambitious movies about young women that will fall out of active development at the studios now that WHIP IT has tanked.
So now “middle america” is assumed to be anti jewish? Is that what you’re saying?
It’s ironic that you’re apparently a bigger bigot than they ever could be. You just libeled an entire region of the nation.
Newsflash, the world isn’t what you see on screen, in movies, and in the news media(based on the coasts). Nobody in the midwest or south even cares about who writes movies, they just want to see a good film. You sure seem to be the one all hung up on whether someone is a woman, jewish, black, etc.
You probably think people in the south all drive around in Dodge Chargers with rebel flags on top. After all, you saw in in “The Dukes of Hazard”, so it must be true.
Overture officials only predicted a $5 million to $6 million weekend for “Capitalism: A Love Story ”, so its weekend result is not bad.
By the way, Warner Bros predicted a $8 million to $10 million weekend for “The Invention of Lying”
Just because they predicted it would only make as much as it did, doesn’t mean it isn’t a bomb. If Walter Mondale predicted he would only win one state in the 1984 election, would that mean it wasn’t a landslide? Michael Moore is a fat, irrelevant liar. No amount of spin from his ideological comrades can cover up his multiple failures.
I don’t like Michael Moore either, but his movies cost nothing to make, little more to promote and always make money before leaving the box office. I wish it weren’t the case but if he had multiple failures as you claim the fat dork wouldn’t be rolling in millions. The only real failure he had out of his cheap “documentaries” was The Big One and even that probably made money after hitting VHS and eventually DVD.
Moore may be rolling in millions because of all the Halliburton stock he owns. Oops!! Thought you hated capitalism Michael.
CONGRATS TO RICKY GERVAIS AND MATT ROBINSON. It is great to see a movie that attempts to be different and interesting succeed in this market. 9 mil on 170 screens is HUGE!! I wish more people would try and make thought provoking movies
I’ll never understand the public’s fascination with zombie movies. They’re the most undynamic screen villains around and the movies that contain them are uniformly identical.
I think zombie movies tap into the feeling/fantasy that “Oh my god, I’m the only person in the world who ISN’T a crazy, lazy, unthinking, conformist!” Every cube dweller likes to think that they’re the lone free thinker in a world of wind-up drones.
Take a look at how partisan politics have hijacked everything in this country – everyone seems to think THEY’RE the last sane, functioning person around them. (Newsflash: they’re not)
Plus, given how frustrating our society can be on a day to day basis, the primal urge to just blast a hole in the head of anything that moves plays a big part.
Vampires I don’t get – zombies, to me, make perfect sense.
Watch “Shaun of the Dead” You will never look at a LP the same way.
Wait, THE INVENTION OF LYING with an entire cast of big stars is a “sleeper hit” with $2.4 from 1707, and LOVE HAPPENS was a “flop” and “weak debut” with $3m at 1898?
One is a by the numbers LOVE IS NICE boring movie and the other took huge chances with a British actor unknown in America and raises important questions. The difference between the two is one strives to be fresh and new.
um, but this is about box office, not critical analysis. Too Obvious.
“Love Happens” is a bomb because it cost $18M to make and only made $3M in 1898 theaters. “Lying” is a sleeper hit because it made $2.4M in 1707 and only cost less than $5M. It’s not just about what it makes. It’s also about what it cost.
Lying cost 18.5M according to Box office mojo. So it is FAR from a hit. It will probably break even or even make a small profit but no hit. ‘Love Happens’ already made its budget back but it is not a hit since, much like “Lying”, the marketing cost is not included in the budget. However NEITHER of the two can be consider bombs. Films that are considered bombs usually make much less than their budgets at the end of their box office run.
A movie like ‘Surrogates’ which cost 80M and has only made 26M is probably the biggest financial flop out of the top ten on the box office chart, so far.
I read somewhere that Love Happens had a $30 million advertising budget but if that’s true I’d like to know where the money went. I didn’t see anything about that movie until it was already being declared a flop. Did a bank account in the Cayman Islands just get $25 million richer a few weekends ago?
Anyways if Invention of Lying had about half the ad budget and pulled in comparable numbers, then that would be the difference between “flop” and “sleeper hit,” I suppose.
The invention of lying is far from a hit. It has the lowest budget in the top ten movies so it will be profitable but it is NOT a hit. The same thing goes for Love happens and The informant. And another thing The invention of Lying also had some KNOWN cast members so that has nothing to do with it.
Whip it is a flop so far but I am not sure what the budget for this film was.
Anyone dare comment on WHIP IT? Hard to knock the industry leader when things are so tough out there, but…
$1.4-1.6M opening day on its way to $4-6M weekend?
So un-Searchlight like for a “playable” movie.
Should be sweet spot for young girl marketing experts over there.
Maybe Kissing Ellen Page Stein and roller derby just aren’t as popular?
Maybe a platform release? Better dating? Maybe more focus/less films?
Bring on Amelia and everyone’s sweetheart Hilary Swank, or just fast forward to Wes animation and awards?
I enjoy seeing women actually play multi-dimensional characters rather than just the girlfriend/wife/love interest role, but Whip It didn’t appeal to me because of the way it looks. Those roller derby outfits almost look cartoonish. And who’s interested in the roller derby?
It looks like it would be a great film for the tweeners, but that’s about it. And that’s too bad, because I like Drew Barrymore, but I’m okay with waiting to rent this one (if I get it at all).
I saw a premier of Zombieland and I loved it. The movie was great. I also saw Whip It, the movie was very good. The movie was fun and the characters had great chemistry, I really recommend seeing it.
The expectations game is fascinating. Whip it, made for the same number as Jennifer’s Body, will do maybe a third of the latter’s business in foreign and dvd. No hue and cry, no blogosphere hate meltdown for the Whip It. Same thing with Invention and Love Happens and Fame. Hitting decently reasonable expectations is great, but… LeoGetz is right. Maybe be a little less frothy roars of “flop” and “horribly pathetic” and all the hysterical crap tossed at movies that, underperforming as they do, won’t lose anyone a dime. Let’s get a little real.
I loved Whip it. And not because it was shot in MI.
It reminded me of Raquel Welch’s roller girl film but with out being too feminist. In fact it reminded me of every other sport movie. It was like Any given Sunday without the profanity and nudity. It told a story about a girl torn between her desire verses friend and family. Daniel Stern was excellent as the Dad who wanted a son, but loved his daughter.
I really don’t know what audiences want anymore. See the speech by the director producer on independent film. For a first shot I thought Drew gave it her best. She played he ditzy child that reminded me of her first role in ET. Eve was funny, the mom great and the supporting cast played their roles to perfection.
Hell, rottentomatoes gave it 88.8 percent which is why I saw this film over Capitalism or the lying movie.
If women want control in Hollywood and don’t want to be thrown under the curb they should support film that isn’t crying over a man, a baby or some disease.
Drew rocked and Ellen Page delivered a great performance. And I’m a man.
Whip It is a gem. But it’s a hybrid of genres.
It needed to be platformed to build word of mouth, not blown out in 1700 theatres.
Marketing misfire.
I am waiting to see “Invention of Lying” for 5 weeks now))
Zombieland is great, one of the most fun studio films in years, see it with a crowd.
Surrogates didn’t drop as much as expected, I actually enjoyed it. How is Fame a disaster if the more expensive Invention of Lying and Whip It made less than it did? Capitalism seems decent for a documentary. So sad about Love Happens and the Informant, hoped they would do more.
I loved “The Invention of Lying”…..so refreshing to see a film that is both provocative and sweet. Much to talk about after leaving the theater. Smart movie. And different than a usual rom-com.
I know you haters love to Bash Michael Moore, but his film made 5.5 million in 996 theatres.
That is a huge hit.
I know ignorant people don’t know that most big screen films open in 3000 theatres, so this is huge and its expanding again next weekend, which it only gets to expand if it gets good per theatre numbers and they are great. No amount of lying or badmouthing will stop this film from expanding and making more next weekend because The opinion of some loser doesn’t nullify Moore hitting his performance numbers or change the facts.
Michael Moore owns you and if you don’t see that he has been right about everything, you are either obscenely wealthy, pious, or dumb
Looks like it only made $1.5 million in 962 theaters.
Moore is an anti-American and a hypocrite. He’s not making money in a socialist economy; he’s making money under a capitalist one. Further, I socialist regime would not allow him to speak out against anything.
Find someone else to worship.
Only $1.5M in 962 theaters:
http://boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2009-10-02&p=.htm
The ~$5 million estimate is for the whole weekend, not just Friday. So most people will say it opened with about five million.
No, he owns you. Try thinking for a change. And good luck with defining a “documentary” which he has yet to make.
Maybe you and your ignorance should check out what factcheck says about his “documentaries”. Nearly every point he makes in his movies is either a flat out lie or gross misinterrupation of facts.
Ironically your cheering for his movie to do well and make lots of money, and at the same time its a movie about how evil money is. But of course your a liberal so you have never actually thought about anything in general. Let alone how hypocritical it is to make money of selling anti-capitlist bull crap. Do all liberals suffer from your sort of mindless zombie ranting. answer: yes.
Sure it may be hypocritical but isn’t that the beauty of capitalism. As long as someone will buy it you can sell it. Moore just happens to be selling the idea of anti-capitalism and people are buying it. So heck more power to him.
Moore, as much as he would hate to hear this, is helping people by playing the capitalistic system. He made this movie and in order to do that he had to hire people which in turn put money in their pockets to feed their families or to better their lives. So to me it seems to be a win win situation. Moore gets his money from his movies and his employees get their pay check.
I am glad that it is a huge hit. This means he’s going to make a ton of money. Now he can give all of the money that he makes from a capitalist society to the poor like he did with his other movies… He did that, right?
The Truth, that is load of pure BS! Most parts in his movie is F*ucking lies, like in one of his movie “Sicko” like part where he compare Cuban hospital to USA hospital, that is bs for example… If you don’t believe me, then get off your f*cking fatass and go live in Cuba, you f*cking piece of sh*t!
Read this one “http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/54833″
See that? He is scamming all you stupid f*ckers!
Kyle…there’s something awfully wrong with your keyboard…or you need to invest in a Spell Checker. Verstaht!
So Michael Moore is obscenely wealthy, pious, and dumb. Remarkable liberals against liberals. Thanks being right, I mean left on this.
In a weekend in which every one of the new releases was well-reviewed, it is disappointing most of them underperformed.
I went to “Whip It” and I thought it was a good movie.
I think it will catch on and when it goes to DVD
it will do well.
I don’t know anyone who would not go to a move because of Diablo Cody backlast.
@ The Truth:
“Michael Moore owns you and if you don’t see that he has been right about everything, you are either obscenely wealthy, pious, or dumb”
What do you consider “obscenely wealthy”? Someone whose net worth exceeds $50 million? Like, oh, say, Michael Moore?
Irony is a concept you should definitely look into.
If guns kill people, then that means silverware made Michael Moore fat.
Think about it, libs. Think hard.
Yes.
And then, even Overture officials had only predicted a $5 million to $6 million weekend for “Capitalism: A Love Story ”, so its weekend result is actually strong.
Saw ”Capitalism: a love story” yesterday and I have to say it’s absolutely required to watch for anyone living in the U.S right now. A lot of people realize Madoff and all. are crooks but this movie shows to what extent they are thieves. Moore illustrates the decay of economic and political checks and balances during US history. You just have to wonder about people who go to gatherings holding signs and screaming they want their country not to fall to socialism…they are truly defending those who are most ready to steal from them. Moore’s movie = a must watch.
I don’t believe it’s a huge newsflash that people do bad things, especially when money and power are involved. So you’re suggesting that Moore’s idea to institutionalize thievery is a logical conclusion? Without exception, that is what happens under socialism. That’s why you don’t see too many old Chevies being rowed TO Cuba.
You need to think about this more. You’ll take the word of one fraud, but not the other.
Michael Moore sucks.
Always has, always will.
In 5 years nobody will remember him.
I think Moore’s films must be an acquired taste. The trailer for Capitalism looked boring: Moore ambushing some Republican (snore), and putting crime-scene tape around a building housing, I suppose, capitalists (because capitalists are criminals. Get it?) If the trailer, which usually contains the best bits, is that dull, what does it say about the movie?
the money angle is only what interests me.
OK Miss Mathematician, then please quote the production and marketing budgets of the film (which you never manage to do.) Sounds like you’re a bit disappointed, dearie.
He should change his name to Michael Moore-on. It’s amazing how many people have prospered under capitalism who turn and condemn the very system that has given them so much. The system is fine: like everything else, it’s only as good as the people in it. It’s not a perfect system, but it’s way ahead of anything else going out there. Moore is as stupid as the national news media that stands by and watches the unhinging of all the constitutional safeguards that created freedom of the press to begin with. Moore and the liberal media despise the very system that gave them liberty to do what they do. The media doesn’t get it: without capitalistic commercials to pay their salaries and give their companies a profit, they’d be off the air! This nation is so dumbed-down it’s pathetic. No nation can remain ignorant and free. Moore should go to Cuba or China and try to produce a movie condemning the horrors of communist rule. If Moore hates capitalism so much, why isn’t entry to the theaters showing his movie free along with free popcorn and drinks?
I agree with your post entirely. Moore is a tool, and those that follow him are naive drones. Anyone can make any point of view on any issue seem reasonable–even rock-solid– when he controls the camera, the editing and the tone of what is presented. Fools who insist we “all need to see” Moore’s films are the same people who believe the U.S. was in on 9/11. Maybe I’ll see a Moore film at some point, when he makes an effort to present both sides of the story. I’m not holding my breath.
They ought to give the movie a subtitle supportive of it’s theme: Steal this movie.
Smartypants, you are spot on. It’s scary how many naive people there are, buying tickets to Michael Moore’s propaganda. Moore “dogs” capitalism yet he is the biggest capitalist there is! Check out his Halliburton stock. Then, how about his usage of bank backing for the movie? In America this is called capitalism. He hates capitalism yet opportunistically uses it! This whole scene is “a billionaire bashing other billionaires.” Where do all of Moore’s profits go? If the answer is charity, well OK. If not then Moore is a scam. What’s good for the goose is also, good for the gander Michael Moore….Can’t wait to watch Moore on Hannity – Fox, this week.
Calling anything Moron makes a “documentary” is like those 40 year old basement dwellers calling Obammy a “genius” every time he screws up.
It doesn’t really matter whether Michael Moore’s film did well or not. What matters is that he is using Capitolism (the real thing, not the movie) to make a whole bunch of money while he totally misleads a ton of idiots into believing that Capitolism is bad! I heard a statistic on the radio the other day…Michael Moore is worth $150 million. I guess Capitolism is working pretty well for him. Is he one of those obscenely wealthy people you were talking about, or do you have to be worth $155 million for it to be obscene wealth?
‘Love Story looks like its domestic total will fail to crack $20M and end up his worst performing film since his Oscar-winner Bowling For Columbine in 2002.’
Do I care? Hate for America has never been a good motivation, not even in Europe (where I lived from 1980 to 1989): Did you know we were as ‘hated’ then as during the Bush era?; so we were before that and today…because the biggest defect of Europeans is ENVY.
Uh excuse me…Michale Moore’s film is UP 4824%.
NO FILM HAS EVER JUMPED THAT HIGH ON WIDE RELEASE.
Obviously the Capitalist Pig Media worl COrporation believes that they can skew the truth to ruin the run of his film.
Which proves Moores point.
Go see the film. Learn something.
And who exactly promoted, sold, and ran the films? Were those capitalist “pig” corporations? Sort of defeats his points. Or does Michael Moore get a pass on artistic competition? Does he have a right to publish his documentaries when others don’t? Apparently, he thinks he is special. He bashes some corporations that he hates, but stays silent on the ones that promote him. That’s why people think he’s a hypocrite.
But there’s something even more damning than that in my opinion. The most amazing thing of all is that Michael Moore or anyone believe we actually live in a capitalist society. A society where gov’t has its hand in every pot of honey with a bit of taxable income, where 5% of the population pays 90% of the taxes, one of the top 3 corporate tax rates in the world, a monopoly on education, military, post, printing currency (Madoff on steroids), etc., 30% of the health care industry, auto makers and banks now, a massive redistribution system, and 53 trillion in debt.
What Michael Moore hates is corporatism or crony capitalism, and he should. The sad thing is he is too dumb to realize what capitalism even is. Unfortunately, for the rest of us, most people are. No free market would allow what George Bush and Barack Obama have done by handing out favors to crony businessmen in the auto industry and banking and housing sectors. Hell, they wouldn’t have had the stolen tax money to do it in the first place. It’s hard to figure out who’s worse when they do the same thing. This is NOT capitalism. Those businesses would’ve gone down in capitalism, and should have. It’s no surprise that we have such a system when we have a 4 trillion dollar pot of gold (tax money) lying around to be plundered by every last politician and businessman, and this is the case with any system in the world that taxes.
But the man does have the right to have his opinion heard. It would just be nice to have someone stand up for individual rights and free markets for once instead of this slow road to tyranny that’s been tried time and time again and failed.
You would have to pay me to see a Moore film($100 sounds about right)
The last movie I watched in the theater was Batman(I got in for free),the movie before that was Revenge of the Sith.Paying over ten dollars to see any movie is a waste of good money,why not just rent.
Michael Moore should have learned the difference between Capitalism and Corporatism before he made his current movie. I think anyone who goes should be allowed in for free with popcorn and soda provided. How did he make all his millions again??? Capitalism – what a hypocrite!!
read on Goarticles.com “Just capitalism”by Michael Zilbering
The Truth, isn’t it about time you got out of your mommy’s basement and made a life for yourself? You’ll wait forever for the government to sustain you in the lifestyle you want. The car dealers are STILL waiting for their checks from the government for Cash For Clunkers.
Go out and hustle and get money for yourself. Michael Moore is fat hypocrite. He should donate his millions to the poor if he really wants to help the downtrodden. Stop drinking the Lib Koolaid and find a drink with caffeine that’ll help you get up out of that basement and achieve something of value.
I think it is funny that people think Michael Moore still makes “documentaries” even though factcheck . org has shown every movie to have a lie about every 60 seconds.
Whip It! is a “chick flick” for teen girls. Teen girls go to the movies with boys. Boys won’t want to see Whip It! It’s a girls’ movie. Case closed.
Michael Moore has been right about nothing. What is worse? His movies are no longer even funny or entertaining. He will always attract enough Neo Fascists to keep him in business as a filmmaker, but like Obama? His numbers are dwindling. In a few weeks you will have a hard time finding his movie in any theater and will have an even harder time remembering what it was supposed to be about… unless you are one of his loyal Fascist Followers.
I lost the coin toss last night and saw the Moore film.
It pains me to admit that it was really good.
After seeing it, I am not surprised to find it being trashed by the media.
It’s been a long time since I went to a movie where afterwards, people lingered in the lobby to talk about what they had just seen. That was very unexpected.
Theaters in San Francisco…aren’t they just awesome. Where else can you get so many socialist together at any one time, accepted for a Micheal Moore docu-drama. You find same crowd around a “Red October” thank Lenin. You are so lucky to have lost that bet, your one of us now…welcome–you can be our new Cultural Czar—we need to work on our family pictures to make them more educational, philosophical, and with ideological platitude that carries my, I mean Michael’s message but…keeping elements of entertainment…can you do this for us?
You got the “haters” label in, some uses of “ignorant” to insult people, accusations of lying and badmouthing, and called people losers if they disagree with you… plus your opinion is now “facts”.
Check your stat history, whereas dramatic films generally do more business for a week when they open wide, it’s not such a set thing with documentaries. It’s especially not set when you’re dealing with a personality based non-documentary maker who has a rabidly loyal audience that seeks out his movies when they open.
Hate to tell you, 90% of the Michael Moore groupies have already seen the film. The rest of us? Just not that interested in sending a wealthy man more box office receipts so he can complain about rich people.
I saw “Capitalism” Friday night with my wife. As we entered I joked with her that there will be at least 5 people in the theater as I felt such a movie would interest only those who actually read other than “mainstream media” news outlets and were not only interested in violence and fantasy, or “food and circuses”, but the very grave situation of our Republic. To my amazement, the theater was full, and I had to ask a couple to move over one seat so I could sit next to my wife. The movie was an excellent expose of how our country has been infested and is now run and over-run with parasites. Those with large hearts will weep, those with true patriotism [love of country rather than party] will be incensed. But those who own the government need not worry about a mass uprising, as they own the mass media and the sheep are very easily manipulated, they do not read, they do not know history, they are not interested in politics or who actually controls their so called “representatives”. They even belive such stupid “conspiracy theories” as the one about 19 camel jockies and 911, with very questionable “evidence”, rather than hard evidence by experts which indicate that all three buildings were planned demolitions. The suspects are still at large, now out country and way of life is also imploding, yet we spend millions watching fantasy. When reality sinks in, watch the shise hit the fan!
Ah, so a thearter full of like minded people makes the contents of the “documentry” all correct? Yea, sure…Mike will love counting your money into to his bank account. He’s such a good capitalist and doesn’t even know it…and you are the fool…..
Bob,
Studios make 90 percent of the ticket sales and are stingy with giving money back to the filmmakers.
Yeah, that’s why Mikey is sooooo poor. Or perhaps it’s because he’s such a good socialist he gave most of his money to the poor – maybe he bought a bunch of poor people some great health insurance. Or perhaps, because he has said he thought that people in his income bracket should be paying at least 70% taxes, he’s taken advantage of the IRS code dealing with “gifts to the government” and paid extra income tax, just so he can keep from feeling guilty and hypocritical. Or maybe, in keeping with his marxist ideals, he insisted that his salary be no higher than the regular workers associated with his films.
Well, which is it, Mikey??
I heard that he used non-union labor on “Capitalism”. True?
I Saw Whip it last night and the theater was full. It was great! Loved it and everyone else seemed to as well. There was even a round of applause afterward.
Ellen Page dropped out of site after the Oscars. Once the Juno media train stopped, she got off, so I don’t see an Ellen Page backlash. I think Whip It will surprise with longer legs than people expect. Don’t count this movie out, just yet.
Young girls will go see it, but only after their boyfriends have dragged them to Zombieland this weekend.
Michael Moore makes a “documentary” on the evils of Capitalism; all while making his millions…from Capitalism.
Unless I am uninformed that he took all of the financial profits and gave the money to the government or whomever.
So don’t call people “haters” because of the ridiculous irony of the subject of his “documentary” and turning people off.
Zombieland looks like fun. I’ll see that.
Very happy to hear about ‘Zombieland’ opening at no.1. It couldn’t happen to a more deserving film. It’s fun as hell; a perfect balance between comedy and horror. And it has one of the best cameos of all time. Movielovers are rallying behind it. The movie’s a great start for this Halloween season.
Why should I have to pay for a movie bashing capitalism when I can download it for free? Lolz
Steve…I loved your post the best…it made me smile…Mark
michael moore loves capitalism, it has made him fat literally and figuratively. He calls his movies “documentaries” so he has a chance at the Special Olympics version of a Oscar.
Get ready for the Drudge loving birthers claiming the World Rejected Obama when in IOC chose Rio over Chicago to host the Olympics, in 3…2…1…
All this over a movie? and Michael Moore? If you believe that he hates “capitalism” then you are sadly mistaken. You make something, put it out for public consumption and hope to make money and a profit. That’s “capitalism” and that’s Michael Moore! How could he afford all those Big Mac’s or Whoppers if it weren’t for “capitalism.” Michael Moore would be the current definition of “hypocrisy.” He lives large (pun intended) off of capitalism.
I told my kids that they were forbidden to spend even one dollar of MY hard earned capitalistic dollars on Michael Moore’s movie. End of story.
Who the hell has a name called “The Truth”? That is lame! Especially when commenting about Michael Moore? He has been caught telling half turth thoughout his carrer, and now he has a film on Capitalism and bashes it, while making money in a capitialist system – Ironic? yep.
Now, I reality is that Opening weekend is usually the biggest weekend. Thus, I disagree with your comment that he’ll make more.
I also like the dig at the end of your comment: “Michael Moore owns you and if you don’t see that he has been right about everything, you are either obscenely wealthy, pious, or dumb”
Are you on crack? Rent “icheal Moore hates America”and they take every augument peice by peice and distroys him. You my friend are the sheep. Micheal Moore is the obscenely Wealthy one that tells the biggest lie when he said Captialism did nothing for him.
Saw Capitalism last night. Like other Moore films it was a little funny, but the “gotcha” schtick is getting a little old and watching the morbidly obese Moore waddle around the screen is very hard to watch. A film can certainly make its budget back in a few days, but in this fast in-and-out world, that means little to the investors. After the exhibiters and distributor clean up on the grosses, there’s very little going back to the producer and investors on a film performing as Capitalism. A $25 mil worldwide gross likely means nothing coming back to the filmmaker and his money guys. Of course if George Soros is funding Moore, who cares, but it does stir the Marxist base of the party.
@The Truth: Buahahahahahaha!
I love Michael Moore’s films and have seen every one of them. It is a testament to the fact that a man can be so enormous that he has to wear a diaper cause he can’t find his pecker in all those belly folds and it would take a bulldozer to spread his cheeks to get in there for a wipe, but heck, he’s terribly funny. If you do miss the movie though, don’t worry… just go to the fun and look in the “wide” mirror and you’ll have seen the film.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *snort*
Capitalism: A Love Story: Another Hollywood “gimmi” Oscar for a Documentary. Making millions of dollars at the box office is not relevant…that would be Capitalism…an Micheal Moore doesn’t want to be a Capitalist…he’s doing it for free. Definate draw for liberals…5.5 million dollars—that’s like what–about 500,000 viewers at what a little more than 10 dollars a pop. Probably worth seeing about 10 more times and buy the DVD and the book.
Love to watch: Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs and once again this should be of no surprise as families continually bring in the big bucks.
It’s funny watching him make a fool of himself over and over again and it’s even funnier seeing the left wing hand him their hard earned dol.. oh wait, i mean hand him MY hard earned dollars since most wound up with their money from welfare checks.
Moore’s movie bombed. Looks like his use of capitalism is not working for him anymore. Ha Ha. He hates capitalism, why doesn’t he just let people attend for free. He has lots of money personally, why does he want more? Is he really a greedy capitalist, too? hum……
So it’s safe to say that the free market has rendered its verdict on Michael Moore? The invisible hand has acted? People have spoken with their wallets?
No wonder he hates capitalism.
Michael Moore’s films are propaganda, pure and simple. When one controls the camera, editing and tone of a “documentary,” he can make any point of view appear to be viable and even correct. Moore’s lemmings do not realize he is leaving out significant parts of every story he tells; and he is manipulating what he does show the viewer. This is not my opinion; it’s been proven out. There are two sides to every story and, with Moore’s work, you’re lucky if you get even one side in its entirety. Does capitalism as an economic system have its faults? Of course. Can you lemmings name an economic system that does not? Moore concentrates on those faults to an extreme in order to convince the naive viewer of some “truth”. So some greedy corporate clowns cheated the system? As if the clowns in government have not profited from their power. Yet countless people enter politics as average citizens and leave as millionaires. Go figure. When will Moore do a documentary on the evils of all-powerful governments? Um, how about never.
Your saying Michael Moore and his film backers are Corporate Clowns making money? I’m in shock…someone told me the film was free.
Not defending Moore here, but unless you’re watching a film in which someone situated a camera on a tripod in some random location, left and came back 2 hours later, then all documentaries involve a director who controls the camera, editing and tone.
You can criticize Moore for making one-sided documentaries, going after the wrong targets or inserting himself too much into his own films, but don’t think the fact that he controls the camera, editing and tone makes him any less of a filmmaker than any other documentary filmmaker.
Moore makes political satires with a very slanted POV. To call any of films “documentaries” mocks the very term.
Even Helene Bertha Amalie “Leni” Riefenstahl would be proud to make films such as Moore makes.
Huh? Like National Geographics does in the Rain Forest looking for the elusive Dodo? It’s been a while since I’ve been in college, I never remember studying camera, tone, and editing. But I seen more manure in the theater than I did on the farm. But at any angle or visage one “knows” [play on word] both stink. I have a camera, I edit, I make comments, people like my work, does this make me a filmmaker? I could capitalize (sorry, I meant take an opportunity) by catering to some radical Hollywood types like Sean Penn–oh heck there’s lots of them to finance let’s say, a True Story (within parameters): Hugo Chavez. Opening scene–a child is born—father lovely takes the baby from the mother and passes him to Che G. who walks to the balcony and raise the baby over his head and proclaims, “A New Despot is born.” And the people cheer, “Yeah!” and querying whispers pass, “What’s a despot?” “I think he said this is spot were he was born.” I think I’m onto a block buster (not the place to rent DVDs).
jersey girl
While Moore’s film may be up 4824%, it actually increased it’s
expansion of screens by 23950%. BTW, that’s happened many times.
The truth is, this film is headed for about $20 mil, if that much.
Nice try, though.
To milehigh: I did see “Blame it on Rio” (very funny) and “Chicago” (didn’t care for it). I have to admit there have been a few Olympic films made so I’m going to assume you mean the 1960 “The Great Olympics” and I believe it being re-released sometime in the future.
I don’t I’ve seen “World Rejected Obama” unless you really meant, “The Day the Earth Stood Still.” Now the original in my opinion was the best of the recent remake. I difintely have not heard of “Drudge Loving Bathers”…sounds a bit porny. By the way, I recommend seeing Capitalism: A Love Story…word is the movie is free to card carrying Anarchist and Socialist—Michael Moore swears on it. Personally, I would spend money on a good wholesome family picture and get in touch with your childhood…ta, ta.
I personally found Michael Moore’s latest to be amazing. No, he doesn’t have answers but the targets he fingers deserve, for the most part, to be pulled from under their rocks and examined more closely.
I found it both scary and uplifting. But I will admit I’m part of the class that is struggling so even symbolically poking at the “Plutonomy” feels good.
I too enjoy the self-examination and never ever want to be rich…I would rather live in a Socialistic Society making nothing because Government will give me everything I need…I want to be an Antiplutonmiest…by the way I undertand it cost money to see Michael Moore’s new film…can you give me a few bucks for the film, two corndogs, popcorn, mega-slurpee and jumbo M&Ms…I just know I’m going to enjoy being an Antiplutonomiest.
AMERICA HAS NO TASTE, NO CULTURE NO BRAINS. BILL MAHER WAS RIGHT; THIS IS A STUPID COUNTRY.
Then come back to USSR—oops, I mean Russia…America doesn’t appreciate our like views.
Bill Maher? Except for his financial success, he’d still be a virgin.
Your grammar and syntax is terrible. Liberal education I presume?
In case you couldn’t read the above:
Yo gramer and sin tax am tarble. Liburl ejukashin I’z gessin?
Note for “The Truth” — Michael Moore does not own me or any other person; such ownership of persons ended after the Civil War. I have seen none of Michael Moore’s films. I do not consider them documentaries; it is plain to see Moore is an advocate rather than a news reporter. At any rate, since the United States does not practice capitalism, and very likely neither does any other nation on earth, there is not much point in making a movie about capitalism.
I hear some rumors that Moore discusses the housing bubble collapse and resultant economic mess, but that is not a product of capitalism, rather, it is the inevitable consequence of socialism, specifically Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae being persuaded or coerced to give loans to people that did not qualify for them. This is a social experiment and it failed. It has also been revealed that our economic failure started with the sudden ascendancy of Democrats in Congress, but I’ll allow that the bubble was doomed and it hardly matters who is President or in Congress.
@ (SO-CALLED) SMARTY PANTS – YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT. The corporations ARE the government. Your concentrating on the evils of gov’t is about as useful as trying to cure the sniffles instead of the virus that causes a devastating illness. YOU are the one who has fallen prey to propaganda–that which is spewed forth by the pseudo libertarians in this country.
Corporations are everywhere my son. But you and I can make these proletariat coops. Perhaps you read my book Das Kapital, I believe Michael Moore has lifted some of my ideas…but it does not matter, he marches to my tune. Workers unite and over throw the capitalist imperialist…Nikita, you were right and I doubted you…America took a while to ripen…enter the new Dragon to clear away pious schaf to make a New World order. Oh, I almost forgot…love the Michael Moores latest movie…wish I thought of all this over a centuary ago.
Talking about a “Chick’s Flick”…I love it when you use that abusive language…take me to Michael’s Movie and talk like that all night long…you don’t have to make any sense…just use that gorgeous language…you are one hot number…don’t know that you know what your talking about…doesn’t matter…abuse me…talk the trash talk…so much testosterone so little time. Your so smart…where did you get it…doesn’t matter.
MM’s worst performance since 2002? Liar! This movie would easily end in a tie with his worst performance ever, his birth.
Why doesn’t Michael Moore just move to Cuba and live happily ever after and leave us alone?!!!
As Gregg Palast wrote, the war against the US middle class has been won without firing a shot. And the great majority of people so
stupid not even to know it …. credit slaves. A few who really undertstand are walking away from underwater mortgages, taking as much of their pension funds as possible before they collaps too, taking social security as soon as possible, and, if they really understand the monetary system, buying as much gold and silver as possible and storing it away from all authorities. And those that really really understand the new fascism, they are leaving the country.
Another piece of Propaganda crap from Michael Moron. Capitalism is fine, Socialism is you work and the government gives your money to it’s voter base. So we’re on our way to Socialism here with Obama and the Dems anyways. And it wasn’t “greed” that wrecked the economy – it was the government (Clinton changing enforcement of the Community Reinvestment Act) telling banks they HAD to lend to minorities and the poor (Dem’s Base) regardless of ability to repay and the subsequent Housing Bubble > Housing Bust > Loan Company bust > Wall Street Bust > etc., etc.
Your not going to learn anything from Moore, or the MSM.
Arvin your a moron. You need to be educated in the financial crisis. It was spurred by middle class people thinking they could live upper middle class. Look at the statistics with who received loans. Companies would lie about income to okay loans. Unchecked commission is bad whether its at corrupt banks or ACORN voter registration ($1 per app turned in). Also, investigate the Future Commodity’s Modernization Act and the fact that a GOP Congress rolled back laws that were set in place to prevent the Great Depression. Greed wrecked the economy. Let the truth set you free!
Here’s how I see a Moore film:
I pay for any other show, then see the excrement that Moore has expelled. That way capitalism is not rewarded for the hypocrite Moore.
If you look at the full “picture” of how many theaters a movie has compared to the money taken in “Capitalism” did better than many of them. It was in less than 1000 in the top ten. “Surrogates” is a good movie and well worth it. The story line is interesting and it actually has a good ending.
The theater count movie next up from “Capitalism” at 962 theaters earning as of right now…$5,252,000. for the weekend. “TYLER PERRY’S I CAN DO BAD ALL BY MYSELF” came in #10 with 1,569 theaters just as an example. It made $640,000. for the weekend. You can study the list for the weekend and it tells a different story when you do the equation.
Let’s say the average screen number for opening weekend is 3,000. If that was the case, Michael Moore made $15.1 million this weekend. Not bad for a left wing American hating person.
We’re all so sick of rampant greed that no one can stomach another witness to how corporate America runs us over with government approval. Instead, we want to escape, vicariously shooting the heads off zombies and loving it because we really wish we were doing it to the heads of CEOs.
Yeah, that has to be the reason no one is seeing the movie. The fact that Moore constantly lies in his movies, makes stuff up out of thin air, and generally cranks out a product with less fact than a Harry Potter movie has nothing to do with it all. And the hypocrisy on display as a multimillionaire glutton rails against capitalism, let’s all just ignore that too.
Is pretty sad, he was entertaining with Roger and Me and his first few attempts at fame. But now he’s one of the biggest hypocrits out there. Saw it made 1.5 mil opening weekend, so I guess that’s not that bad. Doubt it cost him much to make this piece of garbage.
I sure hope it fails worse than Obama in Denmark tho.
I realize that M. Moore is being purposely controversial in order to sell his movies, but does any of his faithful useful idiots realize he is using capitalism to line his pockets with his latest movie, Capitalism: A Love Story?
I’m not going to pay to see a movie about why capitalism is evil, thus supporing through capitalism said movie. Now if a socialist / communist government paid for me to go see it with other people’s hard-earned tax dollars as part of a blatant propaganda ploy, then I would go.
I have to believe that Michael Moore is absolutely THRILLED at the poor box office showing of his movie on capitalism. After all, he hates capitalism, he loves to bite the hand that feeds him, and if the movie did well, he would then be burdened with having to figure how, who and where to give away all of the profits, and that can be very time-consuming. When you are a full-time hypocrite, and routinely traveling the country to preach hatred of all things American to anyone who will listen, it simply doesn’t leave you much time to be a phony philanthropist.
How is it that those who have not seen Moore’s “Capitalism” foam at the mouth and vent so passionately that Moore is a Socialist and anti-Capitalist? For those who have not seen the film, it concentrates on showing how the top 1% who own as much as the bottom 95% have abused our free enterprise system and have caused a devestation on the population. He documents how rapacious Capitalists control our representatives, how they change the laws to their benefit to the detriment of the average citizen, how real jobs have been outsourced, how we are becoming a third world country. It is a film about the degradation of our once great country, about the plight of the average citizen, and it dares to point out, with actual film footage, how big business has bankrupted out nation. So if you do not care about 95% of the population, and wish to be a mouthpiece for that top 1%, [who by the way planted this idiocy that Moore is anti-American or anti-free enterprise] and are happy with the condition of our country, then do not see his film, just believe what you are told to belive, and continue spending your money on fun and fantasy. Sooner or later reality will hit you in the face, with much greater force than the shise hitting the fan.
You go Comrade down with those self-rightous Capitalistic Pigs. If they don’t get it, your my man. You wouldn’t have been around in the 1960/70’s–never mind, you’ll do. I am appointing you has my Field Marshal in build my environmental “Green” Gulags where we can send these filty pigs to go through our very persuasive re-education program. They will see things as we do and then we will see if they merit being part of the proletariat, together with your wisdom we can make this happen. By the way, I rather enjoyed, “The Ugly Truth” I got rather giddy and very emotional–the title was very deceptive. At first I thought it was about Lenin [not a Beatle{not a VW}] the pal that took my thunder.
Right on Pete!
Obviously few here have actually seen the movie.
It’s so much easier (& less expensive) to blast it based on stereotypes (my sister said this guy’s a jerk… oh, and Bush didn’t like him).
But, this is a movie forum. You were expecting Leibnitz??
The price of Liberty is eternal vigilance. Most people won’t pay to watch. (But they love to talk about what they have not seen).
But how can Michael Moore’s film be a flop? I Mean, after all, he stands in front of “big corporation” buildings with a bullhorn, pretending to be the ‘little guy’ speaking out…and that is SO original…we’ve NEVER seen that before. This guy is beyond a joke. He derides the very system that made him a millionaire…go away now Michael, we’re full.
Michael Moore is a waste of time; as a human in general and in particular his movies.
Would not watch a MM film ever! MM could give me a free ticket and I would still feel cheated.
If Michael Moore’s new film grossed more on opening wide than “Sicko,” and he didn’t have to rent a boat to travel to Cuba or spend lots of time and money in Europe to make it, why do you think the film is a financial dud?
By the way, if you think capitalism was not controversial until Michael Moore came along, you really should see the movie, since you obviously don’t read history.
Calling a Michael Moore “film” a documentary is akin to calling Faces Of Death a comedy. Moore’s films are more devoid of fact than an Oliver Stone historical drama. How many lies does he have to tell and how many bombs does he have to produce before people stop calling him a genius? He might be the first “documentarian” in history to have the choir reject him, even though he is preaching just to them.
Michael Moore railing against capitalism is about as phony and pathetic as those celebrities who spend a day or two with the homeless.
“CAPITALISM:THE FAILURE” lol
Communism still alive in China, Cuba, most of South America, Southeast Asia, Russia, Crimea, Europe and now coming to America. See Micheal’s movie, and read my book Das Kapital…Let’s reshape America first by doing away with A&W Rootbeer and Sonic Burger drive-ups. Save Alaska from Big Oil and use it for our Gulags for all those Capitalistic Pigs–Power to the People…Groovy Comrades. By the way I must say I did find “Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs” entertaining…but that’s because the Meatball were a direct result of global warming brought on by the Capitalist and George Bush. Lenin! Set extra plates out tonight I’m bringing home somemore Nuts!
Communism has had an aura of sophistication since 1848. Moore may be the factor that kills off that illusion for good.
Nobody is interested in Michael Moore’s propaganda anymore. It’s tired already.
LOVE IT! MR. BLOAT (Capitalism Never Did Anything For Me) Moore,
can go console himself with yet another meatball sub. Maybe he can do a musical based on Evita — “Don’t cry for me Detroit.” Loser Liberal! Take the goo that forms in the corner of your mouth whenever Larry King interviews you and auction it on e-bay. A great way to earn some more money for upkeep on your summer home in Traverse City, MI.
Right On, Momma!
It seems the sun is setting on Michael Moore….it will be quite an eclipse.
Don’t forget those top 1% also pay most all of the taxes the Government lives off of. Capitalism isn’t perfect but it’s a lot better than anything else. It’s gotten us this far.
Sadly looks like movie had a decent weekend, it couldn’t of cost him a lot to make.
Well, looks like the capitalists have spoken and we think your movie is a pile of crap Mr. Moore.
Michael Moore is a joke and his films are bigger jokes. Why anyone would want to go watch him acting foolish is beyond me. He doesn’t question anything, just make one foolish act after another. Why we have to put up with him over and over doesn’t make sense.
The last great movie I saw was Braveheart. Movies as well as television have totally lost their way. Mel Gibson, where are you?
Moore makes some good points in his movie, nearly all Obamas economic team are ex Goldman Sachs employees, Paulson, who led the bailout of the banks and financial institutions, was a Goldman Sachs Chairman and is worth 700 million dollars and Geitner has no history of economic acheivement yet he is in charge of our economic policy – oh and one year after the banking crisis there is still no regulations controlling the banks, and oh, the bank bailout money was given with no requirement on the banks to explain what they do with that money. So in a 2 party system, with, mostly very rich people in Congress and the Senate, in the pockets of large business who lobby for their interests, the status quo, says Moore, is perfect for that 1 percent, but leaves the rest of the country on the sidelines watching. Moore does though fail to provide any realistic solution to the problems he highlights.
The financial crash occurred when mortgage brokers ran boiler room operations selling mortgages and collecting fees, the selling the debt into a market that was hungry for “AAA” bonds paying 5 1/2%. It was not capitalism, it was criminal fraud.
Michael Moore knows that his movies are silly. The fun of a Michael Moore movie for me is spotting the inaccuracies and the propaganda. It is frightening to think that some idiot libs could accept the movies as factual. That is real idiocy. But seriously I love his films for their wry wit and the devastating criticism. It is called humor.
I can’t wait to see his new film. Really, the behavior of the business types, such as Madoff, shows that they too do not have faith in capitalism either. Capitalism works pretty well on the whole, but what we see now is not capitalism, it is criminality, and the Congress now does their bidding.
I see a lot of posts here complaining that MM benefits from capitalism while he condemns it. That misses the point. If our society had a balance between labor, capital, and the gov’t, Moore wouldn’t be bitching. But what we see is Fannie Mae execs giving themselves big bonuses, a Fed Chairman (Greenspan) who was asleep at his job, even though the S&L crisis was in recent memory. Moore doesn’t hate Capitalism. He hates thieves and cheats.
Ugh. The Drudge Sludge has oozed over in full force on this one. Moore’s movie will do fine; it doesn’t have to make the same amount of money as a typical Hollywood film.
The right wing’s foaming at the mouth animosity toward Michael Moore is inexplicable and pathetic. “He makes Hate America movies!”, they whine. What he does is make movies that expose flaws in our system that we should address or at least know about. Those of us who support his films are capable of doing so and still appreciating America, warts and all. Unfortunately, the Right is so emotional stunted and psychological defective that they need America constantly praised and flattered, like some three year old who just used the big boy potty all by himself. Grow up.
“Zombieland” is one of the best movies I’ve seen all year. Very funny, and the action sequences are very well-done. I was impressed.
Attacking capitalism is like attacking gravity. The laws of the former are simple to grasp;
Motivated by needs, such as hunger, we get off our asses to obtain say…a meal.
Free market based economies are simply the best vehicle for transporting goods and services (the stuff we need and want) to consumers (people)in a universe where the laws of capitalism take effect. The free market ensures each of us does something useful to obtain our meals.
Furthermore, the free market is moral, as it allows individuals to openly engage in voluntary exchange, to this a just government should uphold contracts to promote our civil society.
The CRA (1977), ACORN and Andrew Cuomo’s (HUD) numerous lawsuits (see youtube) forcing banks to extend hundreds of billions of dollars to low income “red lined” communities that collectively defaulted (as the banks knew they would) isn’t the free market;
neither was the “government sponsored entity’s” deliberate lowering of standards for the low income mortgage repurchases.
Fannie and Freddie’s Capitol Hill, anti-capitalist cronies even rejected audits (youtube 2004).
Saying deregulation was the cause of a this collapse is like saying under-eating killed John Candy.
I could make a much better movie than M.M.
If Moore hates Capitalism so much then why don’t he show is capo movie for free? Hypocrite!
Exactly who is financing Michael Moore these days? He had his 15 minutes and his act is as tired as watching a re-run of a re-run.
And as for Ricky Gervais’ new flick? I love Ricky but this new one it really pitiful. There might be a handful of funny gags — but the “world where no one can tell a lie” gets boring about 10 minutes in. Save your money and don’t bother renting it when it hits DVD — it’s that bad.
Moore produces self-described political “propaganda”. So if you still think that he is some pure hearted documentarianist, I have a bridge to sell. He’s a good filmmaker, too bad he makes up his material to fit his mindset. LOL
Read up about the CRA, Fannie and Freddie. Then ask yourself, who is the one that wanted these loans really?
There are no saints on Wall Street. There are also no saints in Congress. One couldn’t do this without their permission, and oftentimes it was about legal coercion.
Did I mention that Moore is an ass? Sorry, my bad. But I actually hope that he makes money on the deal. Capitalism, works. Socialism is a joke, and Communism, well I stopped believing in societal utopias as a teenager. All that pesky death getting people to get into their proper lines is problematic.
He likes Castro? Chavez? I seriously wonder at those who take them seriously. Funny that they’re slapping GWB as a crap history major, obviously THEY aren’t good students of history, themselves.
Boy, you’ve got more wingnuts slamming Moore on this thread than saw “An American Carol” and “Expelled” combined.
My friend dragged me Sunday morning to Capitalism and was expecting to loathe it. Whether you like him not, he brought up some interesting nastiness that hasn’t been covered by the mainstream press, like corporations secretly buying life insurance policies of their employees in the hope they will die sooner than later.
The theater was packed, and the audience cheered and booed like haven’t heard in a long time. I found it interesting and entertaining, and at least he’s talking about things no one else is bringing up.
FUCK Micheal Moore and FUCK the rest of these rich-assed, well-moneyed, Hypocritical, Sanctimonious, Lear-Jet, Liberals. Fuck ‘em all.
The Comments thus far, are full of HYPOCRITES defending/attacking Michael Moore, blinded by ideology.
To me, bill o’reilly/keith olbermann, glenn beck/bill maher, rachel maddow/michelle malkin…I could go on, are the same people from different teams CAPITALizing on raw emotions to further polarize the nation with half-truths and straight out lies justified/demonized by what team he/she supports. If you dont agree… my initial sentence applies to you.
Michael Moore and his type irrespective of political view is the cancer thats killing America.
“So far as I can see, all political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome.”–George Orwell
I needed a pick-me-up today and I got it with “Zombieland.” What fun!! Just what the doctor ordered. One of the most enjoyable movies I’ve seen in months. Jesse Eisenberg is an endearing actor.