This December 4th email (see below) sent to International Cinematographers Guild Local 600 members from national president Steven Poster confirms my Thanksgiving weekend details of the previously undisclosed tentative terms in the IATSE/AMPTP deal. And, yes, it included the controversial new rollback that, effective 07/31/2011, the Health Plan will change the standards for continuing eligibility from a requirement of working 300 hours to 400 hours over a six month period. Interestingly, Poster admits that "this 100-hour increase will be difficult for some of our members". But what he doesn't mention is the very heated Western Regional Council meeting held the day before to finally discuss details of the IATSE-AMPTP tentative agreement announced back on November 19th. ("Your story had already spoiled the union weasels' 'surprise'," one insider told me. "It was probably the largest number of board members actually attending in the last few years.")
And, from the sound of things, there were lots of complaints about that new 400-hour requirement. Could this be a deal-breaker?
Here's what my sources say took place: Local 600 executive director ("and IATSE-millionaire-cheerleader") Bruce Doering discussed the agreement details; talked about "where the business is" and how bad the economy/business is and bashed SAG; spoke of increases in health costs and went over all his handouts about health and pension costs vs revenues and the expected deficit in the Health Plan; as well as boasted that the union was successful in preventing the AMPTP from requiring IATSE members to co-pay the cost of health care. "But that's only wonderful for the two dozen members who will still be able to qualify," one insider explained to me.
I'm told that, at the meeting, many members questioned the 400 hour eligibility increase to qualify for health insurance. Doering claimed the AMPTP asked for an increase to 600 hours, but IATSE refused so the bank of hours remains at 450. But the "Summary of the Basic Agreement between IATSE and AMPTP" Local 600 handout states on Page 2: "Eligibility requirement increased from 300 to 400 hours, effective August 2011. Because the Bank of Hours remains at a maximum of 450 hours, and Local 600 members on average have 409 hours in their 'banks', members earning 300 hours should be able to qualify through August of 2013. (Local 600 will use this period of time to convince members to call in their non-union jobs so that we can utilize our organizing resources to help them qualify for health benefits)."
Board members tried to question this "409 average bank of hours" claim in the handout. They suggested that this was probably an average of members who actually had a bank of hours. But how many members have no bank of hours? Doering claimed approximately 3,300 members who now qualify have an average of 409 hours in their "banks". But my insiders don't believe this figure and don't think the number is that high. Because his claim means 2,700 of 6,000 total members do not have this mythical "409" average, so 2,700 members didn't make the 300-hour requirement. Each member's hours (or lack of) will vary. "It's not all members like they're trying to make it seem," one of my sources complained. "Local 600 spin is that members with an 'average' 409 hours in the bank could use 100 of those hours, in addition to their regular 300 hours, every six-month qualifying period to make the 400 hour total. This mythical 'average' bank of hours would theoretically get these individuals to August 2013 (four six-month periods August 2011 - August 2013). This presumes those individuals continue to earn the base 300 hours every six-months. If they don't, and if work slows down, then they use their bank of hours sooner. Those who don't make 300 hours now have the bar raised even further out of reach." Some board members suggested a tiered plan would be fairer to more members.
Then Steven Poster spoke via phone -- "saying how we'll have to work together to organize more shows, create opportunities, call in jobs, blah, blah, blah, to help members get hours to qualify", one source recalled. "Now the punch line. Poster spoke all of the above union-brotherhood-bullshit from his Vancouver, BC hotel room where he's currently filming Cats and Dogs 2. He has few if any Local 600 members on his main unit camera crew and is instead working with IATSE Local 669. Mr. Poster did not attend the IATSE-AMPTP negotiations. He was busy working on a runaway U.S. production in Canada."
Here is Poster's email containing the tentative IATSE-AMPTP terms at the bottom:
From: President Steven Poster
Date: December 4, 2008 8:02:42 PM PST
Subject: Very Important Message from your GuildInternational Cinematographers Guild
December 4, 2008
Dear Local 600 Members,
We just got the go-ahead from the IATSE to release the following information, and, as promised, here is a brief summary of the negotiations between the IATSE and AMPTP. We are pleased that the IATSE has successfully completed these negotiations and will be putting this tentative deal out to members for ratification in the near future. If approved by the Membership, this new contract would be in effect for three years from August 1, 2009 through July 31, 2012.
As you will see, one of the accomplishments of these negotiations is that, despite the economic crisis, the Union was successful in preventing the Producers from requiring IATSE members to co-pay the cost of health insurance premiums for themselves or family members.
The agreement provides wage increases of 3% a year on a compounded basis and protects our pension plan in this very uncertain time. Under the contract the producers agreed to substantially increase their contributions into the health plan so that our benefits would remain the strongest in the industry.
The Union also succeeded in securing jurisdiction over New Media. This ground-breaking achievement also creates a new source of funding for our benefits plans, because residuals will be paid on productions released on new Media platforms as described in the summary.
Because of the rapidly increasing cost of healthcare and the deepening recession, the IATSE had to make some painful decisions in order to protect the benefit structure of the active and retiree health plans. Because of these rising costs, the tentative agreement includes some modifications in the plans and an increase in the number of hours a member needs to work in order to qualify for coverage. Beginning in the final year of the contract, this requirement will be increased from 300 to 400 hours over a six month period.
We do know that this 100-hour increase will be difficult for some of our members. This is all the more reason why we need to focus on calling in our jobs, particularly those that are non-IA. We must organize every kind of employment opportunity so that the Union can expand job possibilities for the membership. Your officers and I pledge to make this our major focus to ensure that not one of our brothers or sisters loses coverage.
We have to challenge ourselves to become a better union and to do that we have to do a better job of looking out for our Brothers and Sisters. It's our responsibility to help members qualify for the health plan. We can do this if we just take the time to check the Membership First service that appears on the Local 600 website and will be greatly improved with the new computer system.
Again, we would like to stress that this deal is tentative and the bullet points below do not represent the entire Agreement. We will provide more details and information as they become available from the IATSE and the AMPTP. Your questions and comments are always welcome.
Fraternally,
Steven Poster
National PresidentSUMMARY OF THE BASIC AGREEMENT BETWEEN IATSE and AMPTP
WAGES and INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNT PLANS (IAP)
Increase current wages 3% per year, in each year of the three-year Agreement. This is the best wage package since the 2000 negotiations.The IAP percentage contribution of 6% will apply on all hours worked or guaranteed and employers will contribute additional money with each wage increase.
PENSION PLAN
Negotiated 13th and 14th check for current retirees in each year of the Agreement and eliminated the requirement which conditioned payment on a minimum of eight months reserves in the active health plan.
Protected pensions by bargaining for a funding plan that over time will mitigate the effect of the unfavorable investment climate and prevent reductions in our pensions.
HEALTH PLAN
Increased employer contributions into plan by $.35 per year for a total of $164 million over the life of the Agreement.Won additional employer contributions of $.15 per hour when health plan reserves fall below 10 months for actives, and an additional $.15 if reserve levels fall below six months in active plan or eight months in retiree plan or on July 31, 2011, whichever is earlier. These contributions amount to an additional $35 million.
Maintained Bank of Hours maximum at 450.
Modifications in the Plans
Out of Network: Co-insurance paid by participants utilizing out-of-network hospital and professional services will be increased from 30% to 50% while allowances for the usual and customary charges for these services will be reduced from 85% to 70%.In-Network Hospital and Professional out-of-pocket 10% with annual cap increased from $800 to $1000. For example, if your hospital and doctor's bills total $45,000, the maximum you have to pay is $1,000 for these bills.
Mandatory mail order maintenance prescription drug usage, with co-pays capped at 2.5 times retail. After two thirty-day prescriptions, participants utilizing maintenance drugs must purchase 90-day supplies of prescription drugs through Medco. By using Medco, you will save money. For example, if you are co-paying $20.00 a month for a prescription drug, under this new provision, rather than pay $60.00 over a three-month period, you would only pay $50.00 over the same period.
Full cost on "Brand" drugs when approved "Generic" is available. Member pays difference. (Medical appeals available).
All brand co-pays increased by $5.
Preferred "Brand" drug co-pay increased by $5. Retail "Generic" no change.
Discontinue coverage for these drugs with over-the-counter equivalent available - PPI's (Heartburn) and NSA (Antihistamines). (Medical appeals available).
Emergency Room co-pay of $100 (waived if admitted to hospital).
PPO office co-pay increased to $30 for those in the Motion Picture Television Fund (MPTF) area not using MPTF. MPTF to require $5 co-pay for Doctor's visits.
$100 co-pay for each hospital visit.
HMO (Kaiser, Healthnet, Oxford) office co-pay increased from $0 to $15.
Coordination of Benefits provisions are expanded to include prescription charges.Eligibility requirement increased from 300 to 400 hours, effective August 2011. Because the Bank of Hours remains at a maximum of 450 hours, and Local 600 members on average have 409 hours in their "banks," members earning 300 hours should be able to qualify through August of 2013. (Local 600 will use this period of time to convince members to call in their non-union jobs so that we can utilize our organizing resources to help them qualify for health benefits).
NEW MEDIA
Original Programs Made for New Media
IATSE increased its jurisdiction to cover these New Media consistent with the DGA, WGA and AFTRA.New Media production based on existing shows (derivatives) are covered under the Basic Agreement.
Original programs made for New Media over $15,000 per minute or $300,000 per episode or $500,000 per series are covered. Producers will pay full pension and health contributions.
On covered programs for original New Media rates and terms of employment are freely negotiable, except that union security, grievance and arbitration and no strike/no lockout provisions will apply. No mandatory staffing and full interchange of classifications will also apply.
Re-use of Programs Transmitted in New Media
Residuals: Producers agree to pay residuals on:
· Productions created for traditional markets (feature films and television programs) that are released into New Media platforms.
· Derivative and original New Media programs when released originally on consumer and free ad-supported markets and subsequently released to a consumer pay market for electronic pay-per-view or download to rent after a 26-week period.
· New Media programs released into Supplemental Markets, such as basic cable, pay television and home DVD.IATSE has the right to inspect unredacted copies of all licenses, distribution and other agreements, etc. pertaining to New Media exploitation on a quarterly basis. The purpose of this section is to allow the IATSE to monitor and evaluate the growth of new Media.
All New Media provisions will "Sunset" at the end of the contract and will be re-negotiated.


Do IATSE members see the loophole so big any producer can drive a Mack truck through it called non-union new media? If you all think you have troubles now banking hours to qualify for health insurance and your hours worked requirement has gone up by a staggering 25%, how do you think you will be able to call in new media productions to bank hours when the vast majority of the productions will be made for less than $15,000 a minute / $300,000 an episode / $500,000 a series.
If it were me I’d give up the 35 cents (or times 100 hours $35 bucks) and keep the qualification requirement at 300 hours (which will still be tough to get with the AMPTP’s non-union exemption. But somehow I guess by magic Steven Poster thinks you can call in more jobs and make it all not into a rollback, that and apparently SAG is ‘bad’ or ‘crazy’ for opposing this carve-out of union jurisdiction but you IATSE members should of course sanction it.
I am sorry to see you all have a miserable deal proposal too but since it’s the AMPTP it is no surprise to me. I hope you fight it or else a lot of you will be joining the ranks of the 47 million of us who don’t have health insurance and hope every day that we won’t have an accident or get sick.
Being an IATSE Camera Local 600 member who is currently “falling off of health-care coverage” in 2009 because of a lack of sufficient work hrs. in 2008, I’d like to point out that I worked on a webisode series which the IA was unable to organize.
IF it had been done under UNION jurisdiction, the 300+ hrs. the crew worked would have extended all of our medical benefits for another 6 months into 2009.
But, “union organizing” was not accomplished even though we repeatedly spoke directly with Mr. Doering . This show was produced in LA with the full knowledge of the IA.
So much for “reporting non-union jobs so we can use our organizing resources to help members qualify for health benefits.”
If they want us to earn 400 hours, then they need to up the hours we can bank, period. Thanks for the point about Steven, who has a job in Canada, while the majority are still not working. What’s going on with the possible tax credit, Arnold?
So really the 400 hour requirement is saying you have to work around 7 weeks every six months in order to qualify (I’m assuming a 60 hr/wk guarantee, maybe it’s a little less?) As an IA member who has worked over 1400 hours for every qualifying period over the last ten years, this obviously won’t affect me, but it does leave me scratching my head a bit.
I don’t mind subsidizing up to a point. Even up to this point. I live a comfortable life and am happy to help out my union brothers, even if cinematographers do make over twice my rate. But when you think about it, 400 hours every six months is not that much. There’s obviously a bigger problem going on here if the bulk of cinematographers are having trouble with that requirement. What are we doing to address that bigger problem?
Personally, I’m hoping REALLY hard for nationalized healthcare, then this whole f-ing mess will just go away.
The real problem here is the health insurance, not the new media deal. It also has nothing to do with SAG so lets not sidetrack this into a SAG blog please.
The bank should have gone up at the same percentage as the qualification hours. This past years writers strike and the SAG slowdown of production had everyone, including me reaching into their bank to cover the slow period. It seems to me that type of concession would be fair. Yes health costs have gone up and we will give you the 400 hours but you have to let us bank more. The bank should be increased to 600 hours(keeping bank percentages the same). The other problem and I don’t know how many have thought of this but the Motion Picture Health Centers do not have pediatricians. So if you have kids and there is a problem on the weekend your only option is the ER. Now they have increased those copays to $100. There was absolutely no thought to the children of IA workers in this contract. Nothing causes discontent and apathy towards union solidarity like an inconsiderate attitude towards the children of union members.
Sure everyone knew we were going to get the 3% compounded inflationary raise(even though the real inflation numbers for the past decade are much much higher). But for a local in the IA that charges its members 4 times what others have to pay for the same insurance, I would have at least expected a tougher fight from local 600’s board. Yes that’s right, not only do we have to pay dues which are higher than any other local, but we also pay a percentage of our gross which no other local in the IA has to pay. The percentage of gross is not based on scale(what the union negotiated for us) but for over scale as well(what our agents negotiate for us-or if you don’t have an agent, what you negotiate). Yes they want a percentage of that too.
I urge everyone to attend the union meeting before the vote. You paid your dues plus percentage. You pay more than any other local. You owe it to yourself to show up at the meeting and voice your concerns. Lets show the other unions that 600 can conduct discussions in a thoughtful, polite, and intellectual way without any personal attacks. Lets tell them that WE PAY MORE, WE WANT MORE!
Once again IATSE sets a new standard for selling its members short.
The health care changes are of big concern with the bank of hours going up and the co-pays going up as well. But the real time bomb is the new media agreement. It looks like all of us who have worked hard for years at our craft will be reduced to film school level wages as the networks and studios get rich. But hey, maybe we still might get a meal break every 6 hours? If you will be working in the TV/Film biz in the next 5 years you will run into the reality of this “New” contract. Not good.
The new media contract is union busting and will make many of us in the IATSE get out of the biz. But maybe that’s what they want?
I guess rolling over for the AMPTP isn’t such a winning strategy after all. Maybe IA leadership should have stood with the writers and we all could have gotten a less shitty deal.
First of a, we DO pay a “co-pay” to the tune of $1.25/hour per hour worked. It just doesn’t show up on our paycheck stubs. And where does this money goes? Nobody knows. Last year I worked 2400 hours, so this about $3000 I paid. Where is it? And there are petition sites springing up to protest this shitty contract, I’ll have links later here. Maybe the new Obama world will get some pro-union laws in effect so we can actually fight this crap. And here is a blast to the great IA leadership, on the national and local levels: Why is it the rollbacks over the last 30 years are for thing you guys don’t miss? Like night premium, mileage money, etc. Now, if we took away reimbursment for your greens fees, we’d hear about it, wouldn’t we?
More ranting later…
Thanks for the information. I got more here than I will get when they send out the deal memo for ratification. The increase in hours was three contracts cycles coming. When you think about the UAW willing to take rollbacks to save their industry, That puts this into some sort of context.
What I’m surprised at is your attack on Steve Poster. What about the American actors and writers that are involved in that “runaway” production. The quotes are about the present SAG impasse. That film most likely would have been made here if it wasn’t for SAGS digging it’s high heels into the ground. The writers strike took 2 billion out of the California economy not to mention how much it took from the rest of the country. There’s no number for that because it wasn’t counted.
We don’t know what was lost because of the SAG inaction, I’m sure it will be billions before it’s all said and done.
I know you hate all things IA So do the the guilds, no love loss at all between us. Your attack on Poster who is just trying to make a living just rubbed me wrong.
So now Hollywood burns while the AMPTP fiddles…
Steven Poster has in a short time proven to be another terrible leader in the Union. He has time and again come out on the wrong side of the issues and is looking more and more like a puppet for the AMPTP. It started with his unrelenting support of Tom Short during the writers strike and an insulting letter he sent to the members regarding that issue. It continues again with this letter and its attempt to dress this piece of crap agreement up and sell it to our members as cake. Way to go Poster, Wexler would never have gone for this. Good luck in Canada, why don’t you just stay there.
See what happens when you fool yourselves into thinking the AMPTP are your ‘friends?’ SAG knows better and they’re trying to protect their members. Any IATSE member who pickets their meeting tonight is sending the WRONG message.
Haw haw!
After a year of reading posts by IATSE members and BTLers bitching about the WGA and now SAG, now you guys are getting screwed too! Really, that is just rich.
Maybe now you’ll realize we’re all in the same fight to survive.
the union deals are news, fair enough. but taking a personal attack at Poster is not really “journalism”, now is it? I don’t think it was Poster who moved the film up to Canada – I think it was the studios who see that it’s much cheaper to shoot films up there instead of in LA (or anywhere else in the US for that matter). the problem is multi-layered – we have no tax incentives in CA, the economy stinks, the dollar is weak. but to blame Poster (who doesn’t create or approve the budgetary restrictions that keep him from bringing crew) is baloney. I have seen this guy personally fight for 600 crew all over – his films and others. so please, let’s keep the journalism real and less salacious.
Jesse and Actors et al…
First off all the btl’rs said was that it was the WAY in which you conducted your negotiations that everyone has a problem with. That’s what everyone has said. I’ll say it again, ITS THE WAY YOU CONDUCTED YOUR NEGOTIATIONS. That being said lets keep this to discussions about the ISSUE.
Remember this IA brothers and sisters, if you abstain from voting it will be counted as a vote (for) to ratify this deal. You should either vote yes or no but you HAVE TO VOTE!!!
“Just shut up and take the deal!” – Must suck to hear that now that you’re actually in the fight huh?
How could my fellow IATSE members not know this was coming? After all IATSE did to to inform us; the outreach, house meetings, town hall gatherings to inform and discuss the issues important to IA members? Oh wait IATSE did none of that, that was the WGA and SAG. We were too busy bitching about how the other unions and guilds were running their negotiations while as usual paying zero attention to our own negotiations.
The only mailings I get from IATSE are when they’ve sold my info to a credit card or insurance company. Other than that, they apparently don’t know how to get in touch with me.
As a union, we’re getting what we deserve.
Hey Anon,
Good for you getting all that work. A significant number of members of local 600 (and it’s not just cinematographers) are having serious trouble making the hours now. Maybe you work a lot today, but most of those folks worked a lot once too. See the writing on the walls. There’s going to continue to be less work, not more. The people who can barely stay in the industry will have to go into another line of work. The number of union shows, as opposed to ‘New Media’ productions will certainly drop and the union, like so much else in this country in the last decades, will become polarized into the few haves and many have-nots, who just can’t support themselves and their families in LA with so few days work and no health coverage.
To the people who say this isn’t related to SAG: Of course it’s related to SAG and WGA and to all our union brethren, despite what our shortsighted AMPTP-poodle union “leaders” say.
The name of the game is rollbacks for everyonewho’s struggling (regardless of which union you’re in!) and no sacrifices from either management or overpaid union leadership. At least SAG has leaders willing to actually fight on behalf of all their members. The BTLers don’t even have that.
We really don’t need all this hate and told you so’s between guilds. And as for Local 600, I wish you guys that get to bank so many hours, or at least it sounds like that here, were the only ones affected. Unfortunately, IATSE covers a lot of unions and for many of us, we don’t get to go from union job to union job, so 400 hours means many of us will not get health insurance. I’m all for increasing the bank hours but heck, that only helps some of you; for many of us, we will be struggling to get the 400 hours plus bank a few hours — we won’t be worrying about losing hours over the 450. And by the way, you do know they drop hours from the bank that you don’t use for a certain length of time, so it’s even harder for those of us who are struggling.
Poster touts he held the line on co-pays… well, big deal as a trade-off for a 100 hours extra. I’d rather pay the co-pay the times I have to see a doctor rather than pay the Cobra payments I have to pay when I don’t qualify. I don’t think co-pays add up to $400 a month, and if they do,then you are probably too sick to work anyway. Wow, the AMPTP conceded on co-pays… they are laughing at us the way they are laughing at SAG and AFTRA and WGA and DGA.
Just one actor’s opinion:
Poster and Doering boast about their “groundbreaking achievement” in New Mediums (AFTRA leaders bragged about breaking ground, too):
“Original programs made for New Media over $15,000 per minute or $300,000 per episode or $500,000 per series are covered. Producers will pay full pension and health contributions.”
These are the exact same terms AFTRA took.
And these same numbers certainly leave a lot of room for non-union production.
That’s one reason S.A.G. refuses to sign on to the AMPTP’s “template” (cookie-cutter pattern-bargaining based on the original DGA model, slightly amended for the WGA).
If IA members ratify this agreement, there might be a lot of new work. In addition to low-budget, non-union features, there will be jobs in middle-budget, non-union internet programming.
And no residuals for Pension and Health.
What about residuals for COVERED employment? “DP on Your Set” seems to think the New Mediums deal doesn’t matter to Pension and Health.
“Residuals: Producers agree to pay residuals on:
“– Productions created for traditional markets … that are released into New Media platforms. ["agree to pay ... AT WHAT RATE?]
“– Derivative and original New Media programs when released originally on consumer and free ad-supported markets and subsequently released to a consumer pay market for electronic pay-per-view or download to rent AFTER A 26-WEEK PERIOD.
“– New Media programs released into Supplemental Markets, such as basic cable, pay television and home DVD.[AT WHAT RATES?]”
First, note that free window of one-half of a YEAR.
Second, if the WGA’s residuals in New Mediums (after a 17 or 24 DAY residual-free window) are any indication, residual contributions for the IA’s Pension and Health will be pocket change for the AMPTP. (And the writers have had to SUE to collect those small amounts.)
And, as traditional re-use of movies and TV shows dies off, there’ll be nothing but these pitiful
New-Mediums residuals to replace them. The IATSE’s health plan could be taking a big hit in the very near future.
As an actor, I’m already seeing my residual income dry up. Why should the network pay me $3,100 for a traditional primetime re-run of a “Boston Legal” episode, when they can run it, with commercials, on the internet, and pay me less than $50 for six-months, AFTER they’ve used it in their 17-day free window?
Why should they pay the IA’s P & H for a traditional prime-time re-run of “Boston Legal,” when they can run it for their audience for 26 weeks on the internet FOR NO P & H CONTRIBUTION?
Then, IF the network thinks the show still has ANY value to potential viewers, they can run it and pay the IA’s P & H, at pennies on the dollar, compared to the old scale of contributions.
Am I mis-reading these terms? It looks to me like the shrinkage of P and H residual contributions could be just as serious as the 33% increase in hours-to-qualify. The lucky few who qualify may find their fund depleted.
And it looks like the barn door is wide open to makers of non-union product for what we used to think of as the television market, which will soon use computers as the pipeline to the viewer.
Really, I mean REALLY people. If you can’t get enough work at your current profession, find another. That goes for ALL of you. Actors, Writers, BTL’ers. C’mon. How good do you have it compared to so many others. Go learn to build cars and see how much work you get. Go into retail and see how many hours you’ll get. This is not the time to bitch and moan. The economy is tanking. Period. Everyone, EVERYONE is hurting. Why not just be happy you have work at all and live to fight another day. Hollywood mentality is so F’ed up. You all want great benefits, but you want them after only 300 hours of work. Please. If you are good at what you do, you should be as busy as you want to be. Which is apparently only 300 hrs. every six months. Give me a break! Maybe Canada isn’t so full of whiners. Maybe they want to work!
I think it was the studios who see that it’s much cheaper to shoot films up there instead of in LA (or anywhere else in the US for that matter). the problem is multi-layered – we have no tax incentives in CA, the economy stinks, the dollar is weak.
Comment by theunknown — December 8, 2008 @ 11:40 am
And, of course the BIG layer, employers don’t have to worry about paying for health care for our Canadian union brothers and sisters.
Iatse member with a job-
That’s is great for you. I have too. I book over 2200 hours a year and have done so since the ’80s. That doesn’t mean that the bank shouldn’t go up at an equal rate as the qualification hours. I have also been around long enough to see strikes from other unions cause our members hours to drop. I have seen members get injured and become unable to support their families insurance needs. Remember its OUR money in that plan and once you give that up you can only count on the retirement plan to take the next hit.
Just a thought-
Yes I was there during the merger and went to every meeting and voted against it. Mainly because of the percentage hit on our dues. There was no and still is not a justification for 600 to charge a percentage of gross wages when we can’t negotiate outside of the IA. Maybe you can tell me why we need to pay dues plus a percentage.
dp on set
There is no reason for 600 to take part of what you make. I’m a member as well and dread paying that bill for nothing in return. The guys that were in charge of the consolidation were salivating at the thought of more money for the guild.
The truth of the matter is that as long as the board are Bruce’s lapdogs nothing will change. Think about the picnics and golf tournaments that it underwrites. The seminars to train our replacements all that needs to be paid for. Guess what dues don’t cut it. All one has to do is get a referendum to ask about the percentage. Yes or no simple as that.
Let’s assume “IATSE member w/ a JOB” is not an AMPTP shill.
IF “JOB” is what he says he is, we have “JOB”s in S.A.G. too. They’re called Mike Farrells.
The Mike Farrells (and the Ned Vaughns) want all the actors who don’t work as often as the Farrells and the Vaughns to go away, give up, quit the business, so the Farrells and the Vaughns can have all the jobs that the less lucky actors are occasionally given.
If the less lucky give up and “build cars” or “go into retail” as Mr. “JOB” suggests, the Farrells and the Vaughns will have the greater income to which the acting aristocracy is entitled.
“IA JOB” is obviously a producer’s pet, if he works as much as he implies. Pets have to be neutered, of course, which might explain why “JOB” is having such a hissy fit.
And here’s the kicker: Per the 600 contract with IATSE, they are not allowed to strike. Beautiful, huh? My comparison, SAG has all the leverage in the world.
Just a thought-
Well at the next meeting we can get a Quorum to push a vote to amend that percentage assessment. All you need is 3 people to start the quorum and then a majority vote at the meeting. You don’t need a referendum by the general membership. I will be at the meeting and second or third a motion to get such a quorum.
Who is with me?
FYI. . . In 2008 Box Office receipts are up by 2% over 2007. Over the years fellow filmmakers have stood by and watched as major studios and production companies left the USA to film in other countries. The producers came up with excuses like: the exchange rate or tax incentives then there was the cheap labor angle and of course let’s not forget the we like the location as it suits our film pitch. I’m the first to admit film productions have every right to increase profits by filming abroad, and on the flip side we have a right to support only those films that are made within the USA. So whether you’re venturing out to a movie theater or making a movie selection online consider paying closer attention to which films were Filmed in the USA and which were filmed abroad. http://FilmintheUSA.com
Do 600s/DPs receive residuals?
Do other guilds?
What’s the guaranteed base salary per job classification?
Do we all have a guaranteed 60/hour week? 55 hours? 40? Straight hours worked?
Andy:
If we let the contract lapse without replacing it with a new one as SAG has done, there will be no more no-strike clause
I AM UNSURE WHO TO FEAR MORE………………………….
PRODUCERS,……………………
OR IA…………………………….
OFFSHORE ACCOUNTS FOR THE LOT.
THE “ANTI-LABOR ORGY” IS STILL IN FULL TILT.
MAN THE LIFE BOATS.