UPDATE: The newly edited by NBC "Bailout" skit that ran on SNL is live online now.
On the past weekend's Saturday Night Live,
a brutal but hilarious Democrat-bashing skit aired about the $700 billion federal bailout and the insanity of those subprime mortgages, and it featured lookalikes for George W. Bush, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, hedge fund billionaire and big Democratic donor George Soros, and a parade of sob-story “victims” who turn out to be deadbeats, greedy house-flippers, and schemers. (The unedited YouTube version was taken down by NBC lawyers.) The sketch was embraced by Republicans for appearing to blame Democrats for the Wall Street meltdown. At one point in the sketch, President Bush (played by SNL regular Jason Sudeikis) even said, "Wasn't it my administration that warned about the problem six years ago and it was Democrats who refused to listen?" (Immediately Barney Frank starts to complain... only to be hushed by Pelosi.) The skit was very obvious payback for all the Sarah Palin bashing this season on SNL which was trying to portray equal opportunity satire.
NBC put the video online Sunday morning. But then it disappeared off the network's SNL website soon after. Needless to say, a lot of conspiracy theories were spun, real or imagined, especially by Republicans who wondered if the Democratic Congress, or perhaps Soros himself, were pulling NBC's puppet strings. "If you suspect a few high-placed phone calls to NBC led to the bailout skit slipping down the memory hole, you’re not alone," wrote right-wing commentator Michelle Malkin.
But anyone who actually saw that video could see this might be a lawsuit waiting to happen. Because SNL labeled Herb Sandler and his wife Marion, the real-life former owners of Oakland's Golden West Financial (aka World Savings), as "people who should be shot" and accused them of predatory lending that brought down Wachovia Bank even though no charges have been filed. NBC told me just now they never received any legal threat from the Sandlers. [Though the couple did give an angry interview to The Associated Press about the SNL sketch.]
Instead, the network claimed: "Upon review, we caught certain elements in the sketch that didn't meet our standards. We took it down and made some minor changes and it will be back online soon." Specifically, NBC said it has edited out the chyron on-screen text, "People who should be shot" that appeared beneath the Sandler' lookalikes, as well as the "allegations of corruption" made against the couple.
NBC surely could have handled this better. (Supposedly, NBC.com has been deleting questions about the skit from message boards.) Because the network didn't, today's action may or may not silence critics like conservative commentator Michelle Malkin who praised the skit as "hilarious, dead-on, and surprisingly honest" only to express outrage when it was taken down online:
"Where did it go and why? I have a theory," she wrote. "One of the rapacious couples featured in the skit was Herbert and Marion Sandler (portrayed by Darrell Hammond and Casey Wilson). Unlike the other composite figures, the Sandlers are a real-life couple. Also lampooned: Left-wing billionaire George Soros. As Todd Thurman at Heritage notes, the Sandlers are left-wing moguls who built 'a mortgage company whose major product was subprime mortgages and they sold it to Wachovia for $24.2 billion in 2006. And what do the Sandlers do when they are not peddling subprime garbage? They are busy writing checks to leftist groups like the Center for American Progress, the American Civil Liberties Union, and Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). Yes that ACORN.' The Sandlers are seething over the skit. And George Soros must be livid as well. Anyone else smell a legal threat behind the disappearance of the vid?"
Malkin went on, "The Sandlers have started to invest their billions of dollars politically, in the manner of George Soros, sugar daddy of many far-left wing groups and an early and prominent supporter of Presidential candidate Barack Obama. Soros has developed an empire of so-called 527 groups, putatively independent political activists groups that have influence within the Democratic Party. These 527 groups include the Center for American Progress, MoveOn.Org, Human Rights Watch, Media Matters and a slew of other like-minded groups… Soros, Lewis, and the Sandlers form a core group of billionaire activists and Democrat partisans who have formed a group called The Democracy Alliance. They realized that they could magnify their power by working in unison and tapping other wealthy donors to further their agenda...
"The Democracy Alliance is a major avenue to help them achieve their goals. The roster of its growing membership consists of a list of billionaires and mere multi-millionaires who collectively hope to give upwards of 500 million dollars each year to further promote a left-wing agenda. A partial roster of the Democracy Alliance membership can be found here. Half a billion dollars a year can purchase a great deal of influence. The Sandlers certainly know quite a bit about leverage from their savings and loan days. Among the beneficiaries of their largesse: Air America, ACORN (a group that has very close and long lasting ties to Barack Obama and has a long history of engaging in voter fraud. Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (basically a private detective group focused on the private faults and foibles of Republicans), Media Matters, a media watchdog group that engages in harsh partisan attacks against media figures and articles it considers supportive of Republicans). The list goes on and on. They are not merely out to elect Democrats, but to also permanently realign U.S. politics and shift our society and culture in a far-left wing direction…"
All I can say is: sometimes sketch comedy is just sketch comedy.


Reediting the skit and put it back up isn’t going to help NBC at all. I expect NBC to get criticism for caving into the legel aspects of this. Becouse the parady was legitmate. I didn’t President Bush complaining about it? No. But Herbet and Marion Sandler and George Soros have been drawn up into limelight and who knows perhaps thier angles of the bailout will be exposed. Alec Balwin who was on Bill Mahr’s HBO show came criticized his party and well it times for more of u out there to raise your voices of rage. Becouse it cuts across all political lines.
But NBC shouldn’t have taken down the video.
walks like a duck…..blahblahblah.
Just like the meida protecting the Democrats again, can’t you guys treat everyone the same. If your not going to do it to one party then don’t do it to the other.
I don’t understand. Were the Sandlers defamed by the skit for being shown to be greedy unscrupulous people? Was Soros defamed for being shown to be the financier of the illiberal organizations? Or was NBC suddenly made aware of the fact that there’s a danger in making fun of the rabid left? There was no such problem with skewering Gov. Palin on SNL, and if she wasn’t defamed, I don’t know what the word means.
A little fact-checking never got in the way of the Right Wing. While not vouching for Wachovia, based on a conversation with a former, longtime World Savings loan dept. employee, World, when owned by the Sandlers, did not make subprime loans. While World did make option/ARM loans, it did so based on real appraisals and real credit scores. World also held onto its loans. It did not bundle them to be resold on the market. Bundles of bad loans were one of the precipitating causes of our current financial crisis.
While watching the SNL skit in real time, my first thought was of the defamation action the Sandlers may have against NBC.
Believe what you want, but this is as creditable as the need for the $700B to bailout us Americans! That was a lie, and so is this need to ‘edit’ that more than poignant skit. I think SNL writers thought it was funny. What was funny was just how TRUE to life the skit was.
What a bogus excuse. They can’t be sued, parody is protected under the first amendment and a lot of case law.
So the network declared that the skit “did not meet its standards.” I understand that to mean that it usually only bashes republicans/conservatives/Christians, and they know that those groups will not sue as they truly understand what freedom of speech means. The loons on the left, now that is a whole other story.
I really did enjoy the sketch, especially the part where George Soros was identified with Moveon.org as “Owner, Democratic party”. Seems like SNL had a sudden rush of brains to the head and also got a sense of fairness temporarily. Would be great if it continued, but I think the left-wingers who run NBC will stop that fairness nonsense.
==It was a lawsuit waiting to happen. Because SNL labeled Herb Sandler and his wife Marion, the real-life former owners of Oakland’s Golden West Financial (aka World Savings), as “people who should be shot” and accused them of predatory lending that brought down Wachovia Bank even though no charges have been filed.==
It still could happen cuz it was up, and that is “publication,” an element of libel. That NBC took it down doesn’t relieve it of that responsibility. Publication happened, and that’s all you need, even if the “victims” could be labeled “public figures” and actual malice is in play.
Not only that, but republishing the libel, if it is a libel, puts the republisher in jeopardy of liability action.
Satire is well-established as protected Free Speech. NBC’s “legal” excuse is simply a made-up reason to censor content that is critical of well-known American left-wingers, all of whom are public figures anyway. Just more evidence of the MSM’s being “in the tank” for Obama and Democrats. I applaud SNL for running a piece on Democrat complicity in our current economic woes and showing that making fun of Democrat corruption can be hilarious. I’d suggest Letterman, Leno, et al give it a try once in a while.
Fact is, with NBC/MSNBC so low in the ratings and plummeting due to their catering to the far Left fringes in this country – by starting to show reality and balance, it indicates a business decision.
See, the vast majority of Americans are far more conservative. We are not the kook fringes that somehow make it to celebrity status with a fringe of followers.
They are on their way to bankruptcy by going the Olbermann, Matthews, Maddow route, just to name a few of the Left Wingers over in that nuthouse.
NBC screwed up and they were (initially) right to yank that sketch. Saying that private citizens “should be shot”, no matter how corrupt they are, is a call for lynch justice and does not belong on the air. Even bloggers know better than that.
Now, if tar and feathers had been involved…
You wish this was just a comedy skit….By-the-way,how does the saying go? For something to be funny, it has to be truthful?
Just shows to go you, I was thrilled to see equal time for others in power who are culpable. Thank you S.N.L. for hitting it dead on.
You mischaracterize the exchange between Bush, Pelosi, and Frank. Bush indeed says what you quote him saying, but it’s Pelosi who speaks next, denying Bush’s accusation. It’s then that Frank jumps in to say that Bush is “actually sort of right” about it, only to have Pelosi whisper back, “Shhh…he doesn’t know.”
I’m so thrilled that NBC is being so careful about not offending anyone who may have been responsible for this bailout mess (i.e. Frank, the Sandler’s (crooks), Pelosi, et.al). God knows we wouldn’t want NBC to hurt the chances of their chosen candidate Barry.
Censorship! NBC wants to censor this skit so as not to lay blame for the Financial Meltdown on sub-prime loans pushed by Democrats and Obama. Corruption at Fannie Mae was shielded by Obama and Democrats because they were getting fat contributions from Fannie Mae, and because their friends were running Frannie Mae.
The Fannie Mae angle is being suppressed by the Obama loving “tingly legged” Main Stream Media.
Funny how the left is always telling us to “chill.” Maybe the left should take it’s own advice.
Soros is always ‘johnny on the spot’ to complain. NBC (includes MSNBC) is the ‘house organ’ of the Obama campaign, and the secondary outlet — after the NYT — for the Dems. My guess is the multiple Obamanation members at NBC went nuts when they saw the skit, and started shooting memos around.
Some times “sketch comdey” hits too close to home, and the ‘powers that be’ don’t like it.
Obama cannot tolerate criticism and neither can the democrats. At least, the republicans take their best shots in good humor. Not so the left wingers.
Big surprise. Meanwhile go ahead and have a skit where you accuse Todd Palin of having sex with his own kid.
Oh wait, you already did that…
Hypocrites. That’s all the networks are anymore Democrat run hypocrites.
What a shame.
Chill what? Sounds like Malkin was dead on. There were legal issues and legal threats.
Censorship by the Media- What country do we live in????????
You mean the politically far left have a problem with the truth. What’s the matter? It’s a FOIA and Freedom of Speech issue. SNL has long lambasted the Conservative movement vigorously, now when suddenly they slip and bash the “good guys”, everyone has a problem?
Give me a break!
I just have to ask this “Bailout Skit” didn’t meet the standards of NBC/SNL but accusing Mr. Pailin of incest does? In those famous words of Led Zepplin… “oooohhh it makes me wonder???”
Bout time someone called it like it is. To think that this wasn’t taken down by the elitist libs is a travesty, but not suprising. I’m surprised that the liberal ‘writers’ on this website actually posted anything resembling the truth by sharing Malkin’s quote. Maybe some of you do have balls after all. Coulda fooled me.
…”upon review, we caught certain elements of the sketch that didn’t meet our standards…” of GOP-bashing…
Someone’s got a magnet next to their moral compass.
Considering the quashing of all information(see Missouri)not complementary to Obama, his backers, his policies, the condition of the communuty he was ostensibly trying to help and those he REALLY helped(ACORN)it is increasingly difficult not to see a conspiracy.
I dont belive it i just think they got to pressure from the leftists
am we’re supposed to be surprised by this? please! the left and the media have joined hands in destroying the country, minipulating our youth at campuses around american and using the freedom of press for granted while the rest of the world would die for that. and for those who still drink the simple-minded koolaid, its so wonder why our modern day nation is imcompedant.
Hell, I don’t even need to read the article. It is ok to bash any conservative but as soon as you tell the truth about a liberal, there may be “legal” action so let’s pull it.
Welcome to the USA.
You should be ashamed but you aren’t.
Just reading the story on the yanked SNL sketch, why am
I not surprised. When it’s time to slame conservative
candidates, SNL is at the head of the line with even
funny, but sarcastic satire. Now someone has created
a slam on some heavy liberal hitters and mysteriously,
the SNL sketch is “yanked.” What gives here?
I hate to think that the adage “liberals have no sense
of humor,” is true, but you can’t deny the obvious.
Gone now is the SNL sketch and who knows what sort of watered down version NBC (the National Barak Channel), has approvingly censored for their neophyte messiah.
well if this is not the biggest smelliest pile of bull crap…..how has this communist agenda creeped into our most sacred avenues….sounds like we need a good ole fashion house cleaning…line them up…give them a 3 minute trial…and send them all to a special place in the middle of the desert for a little ole fashion ass whoopin…
How can honesty be sued…this skit was a comedic replica of exactly what happened. What was not funny was Pelosi, Barney Frank and S. Hoyer laughing the night this bail out was signed…they had a good reason…the joke is on us…the American people, at least SNL’s version actually made me laugh, when I seen it on the real C-Span I was not smiling, I was trying to connect with as many people as I could to put a petition together for TERM LIMITS. These congressional criminals MUST GO…Term limits are needed and wanted and that is not a joke.
Comedy is comedy and everything’s fair game. Republicans and Democrats need to all grow a better sense of humor and realize that we are all to blame for every problem in this country, either through action or omission.
This finger points and back patting on both sides is juevenial and baseless when you consider what’s at stake right now.
Always the left are cowards! Love to race bait, but cannot take the honest assestment of their party, and themselves. Such cowards!
Classic……
“Chill people”…?
I guess we know which side YOU have taken. No matter how many actual facts can be laid before people like you, you will still act like it’s all a bunch of conspiracy theories by the right.
At some point you are going to have to face reality. There are actually corrupt people in this world, and they are willing to do terrible things. You may not believe it, but some of them may actually be Democrats.
Fancy that. I suspect it will shock your little bubble of a world.
I call BS. SNL puts those lines, and worse, in many of their skits, never have they had to pull a skit to be “edited” before. Soros or Immelt (GE parent company of NBC) made a call, IMO.
Thanks for the scoop, Nikki. It’s comforting to know you are ALWAYS On top this stuff.
aww for legal reasons, well that’s the barack obama way, speak out against the great one and we’ll sue you. your only allowed to bush republicans and women but if you try to do anything towards the democrats well your a racist and you should be barred from your first amendment right.
Well, It looks like the “Dark Overlord” Soros & his pals the Sandlers couldn’t take the heat. Funny, because they get such a kick out of going after the conservatives. This WHOLE sub prime mess is a Democrat swamp of lies. They OWN the whole subprime debacle. Bill Clinton even says the dems stopped any kind of regulation of Freddie & Fannie when he was president.
TO: All
RE: We’ll See….
….what they edited out when we can compare the past against the present versions.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Comedy is Life with the dull parts removed. -- Alfred Hitchcock (paraphrased)]
Dem-bashing?? You’re joking right? This skit presents Bush as an idiot and white middle-class investors as greedy, heartless, self-absorbed jerks.
Aside from poking fun at Barney Frank’s speech impediment and implying that Pelosi doesn’t like black people, this skit is a straightforward bash on capitalism and conservatism.
Wouldn’t expect anything else from SNL though.
Too funny! When exposed to the light these cockroaches [aka Sandlers & Soros] scatter back into darkened recesses. I totally agree these are “People who should be shot”.
I’m surprised and a bit disappointed that the SNL people caved in to threats by quickly removing this ARTISTIC skit which if I’m not mistaken is protected by Constitutional right to freedom of speech just like all their other controversial skits.
Finally there is two sides to a story! No wonder they had to pull it, it was too close to the truth except for Bush having an extra chromosome. The bailout debate reminds me of the Monty Python’s skit ” I’m here for an argument.” The Dems say, no it isn’t when in fact the two people running fannie and freddie are sitting as the party’s biggest donors and on O’s campaign staff.
This is sooooo hypocritical!!! I don’t see why they have to EDIT this????? oh well, its just comedy, I hear better jokes from my own kids on how stupid dems are.
I bet it would have run if it was anti-republican. NBC is already leaning left. Shame on NBC for canceling it. Pu$$ie$!
Sorry Nikki but edited versions were also pulled off the net. After NBC deleted the comments, the old rule about the cover-up being worse than the crime kicked in. They went beyond just being in the tank for the Dems and got caught being hypocritical censors. Now they are furiously backpedaling trying to make it all look innocent. You are part of the smokescreen (but then maybe you already know that).
Al Franken is telling Minnesota voters his comedy days are over and yet he’s writing anti-McCain material for SNL.
Joe Biden makes mistake after mistake (Syria and Hezbollah, Pakistan missle range, the constitution, dangerous vice-presidents ((Aaron Burr, anyone?)) and SNL completey white-washes it. All that matters is Palin shooting wolves from helicopters (something only the Alaskan f&g dept have done to cull packs).
Tina Fey uses a spot-on impersonation that also happens to be intellectually dishonest to skewer her weekly, McCain is also ridiculed at the behest of a Dem Senate candidate…..all the while Obama/Biden get a pass, Fey even goes on the Emmys and declares her hate for ‘that lady’……
Now they invite Palin oonto the show in a blatant attempt to appear non-partisan.
Someone as smart as you Nikki really should be exposing these cretins for what they are, your politics be damned. The fact that politics seems to cloud your objectivity says alot.
No matter what the left does or the reasons they give for doing it, follow the money …ALWAYS follow the money!
Wealthy left wingers are more a threat and muzzle to NBC and other left leaning media than any conservative or conservative agenda will ever be.
So, SNL fianlly slams the left! It’s about time!!
But they have no problem suggesting incest in the Palin household – that met NBC standards?
The “legal” problems are likely their employment contracts.
Is everyone ready for fascism? The left-wing dictator variety? Kudos to NBC.com for the video. It’s NBC and other media companies that are going to suffer if Obama gets elected.
is it normal that SNL pre-emptively edits its on-line version of its skits?
i mean, according to the story, there’s been no threat of a lawsuit or even a formal complaint (and yet, they’ve gone back and edited).
so…
WHAT PROMPTED THE EDIT?
Talk about your basic double “standard”! They’re affraid of leftist billionaires but have no problem raking Sarah Palin over the coals for relating to the very victims of those billionairs.
Why hasn’t SNL done a skit showing Barack H. O’Bamma snorting a line of coke? They think drug use is funny and our next would-be president is an admitted coke addict (albeit recovering).
The bottom line is that NBC is so deep in the tank for the Marxist/Lennist Left that they do not fear any legal action at all — what they fear is losing what’s left of their audience.
The conspiracy nuts need to untwist the panties they knotted all up!
Obviously, the NBC lawyers are scared of a lawsuit by the Sandlers, especially if they were to be shot at!
They do have several billion $$$ & could easily cost GE a large fortune!
The rest of the skit was harmless satire, but labeling someone as “people who should be shot” goes over the line.
Too bad they didn’t show barney Frank actualy in bed with Fannie Mae exec Herb Moses,(his “spouse” for nearly a decade, laughing it up and smoking a cigarette after a steamy session, and laughing about how they are are duping the American Pwople out of millions in the name of “fairness” to people that can’t afford homes. Oh– I forgot… that’s not comedy. THAT’S TRUTH.
I am sure that after they have edited the objectionable script, we will see a skit depicting the DNC written version: Sarah Palin single handedly caused the mortgage crisis by being late on her house payment, and she was only late because she was too busy stealing someone else’s baby, and beating her husband .
On the past weekend’s Saturday Night Live, a brutal but hilarious Democrat-bashing skit aired about the $700 billion federal bailout and the insanity of those subprime mortgages, and it featured lookalikes for George W. Bush, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, hedge fund billionaire and big Democratic donor George Soros, and a parade of sob-story “victims” who turn out to be deadbeats, greedy house-flippers, and schemers. (The unedited YouTube version is below…) The sketch was embraced by Republicans for appearing to blame Democrats for the Wall Street meltdown.
BUT WITH A CLEAR CONSCIENCE, IT’S ‘OPEN SEASON’ ON THE REPUBLICANS AND CONSERVATIVES!!!
Look, this is the rule:
1. No matter what, even if the truth is stumbled upon, if it hurts liberals, then it must be removed. Getting liberals elected is the most important thing in the world. So, because of this rule, what NBC and any other media outlet does is just fine. Just get liberals elected at all cost. PERIOD.
Country Wide was the problem, not Fannie Mae. The real estate bubble was created by fraudulent appraisals. The wave of defaults came from adjustable rate mortgages made by private banks at exhorbitant fees, not Fannie. The reason Fannie failed is because they got too big and owned too many loans on property that sharply declined in value after the crash.
Yeah, NBC caved to pressure- but if the sketch hadn’t used the phrase “people that should be shot”, the legal threats wouldn’t have any legs. It’s something that could have been corrected with a click of the mouse beforehand (the suggestion of “Tarred and Feathered” would have been just fine).I do disagree with the claim this is a “right-wing” piece…simply because “right-wing satire” is much clumsier than this ( Limbaugh, Coulter, and their ilk are heavyhanded and let ideology get in the way… this piece is surgically precise,with rigorous attention to the facts of the matter- it really doesn’t have an axe to grind…)
It was a good thing to edit out the “should be shot” part. With all the anger it could trigger someone. Look at the CEO of Lehman who was beaten up. It definitely shouldn’t be up because it could be provocative. Even mostly sane people are freaking out because of the financial crisis.
This is an example of what’s to come in the world of Prez Obama. Certainly can’t have ANYTHING that may hurt the precious libs, especially when there’s some truth in it. Can’t have their chickens come home to roost can we??
Perhaps the more heavily leveraged writers for SNL are upset over their financial trouble. I think Pollosie, Reid, Frank and Dobbs need a public flogging and comedy may be as close as I get to it.
My feeling is why give any of these major stations any of our precious time….
They are in the tank for the left, including every nightime TV show is now a Soap Opera!!!
This is why my TV time is VERY limited.
But at this stage of the game is going to now be even more limited.
I get my news online, and on conservative radio…they speak my language
question??
has Barak been satired on SNL??
“The conspiracy nuts need to untwist the panties they knotted all up!
Obviously, the NBC lawyers are scared of a lawsuit by the Sandlers, especially if they were to be shot at!”
Then why delete all the user comments on the NBC boards?
Why make it appear that the video never happened?
Why yank the edited versions on youtube that didn’t show the ’should be shot’ comments?
NBC got caught red-handed. Shame on anyone who totes the party line on this as a means of political damage control.
Can you lose the music please. I can’t hear the words as the music is way too loud.
The skit is funny, our politicians are what they are, but let us not forget that the Democrats and the Republicans are simply pawns of the Federal Reserve the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund…our real enemies.
I bet BHO had his “Truth Patrol” from Mo. on this one…get ready people…our rights are going to be taken away. Freedom of Speech is going to be a thing in the past come January.
ACCEPTABLE: portraying Todd Palin as a sexual molestor of his children.
UNACCEPTABLE: portraying Democrat crooks as Democrat crooks.
Nope, no problems here folks, NBC is being totally fair and honest.
“A little fact-checking never got in the way of the Right Wing. While not vouching for Wachovia, based on a conversation with a former, longtime World Savings loan dept. employee, World, when owned by the Sandlers, did not make subprime loans. While World did make option/ARM loans, it did so based on real appraisals and real credit scores…”
Comment by WorldMortgageHolder — October 7, 2008 @ 2:39 pm
This comment is quite typical of liberals. The implication is that conservatives are both stupid & liars, and get this…the voice of authority is based on a “conversation with a former employee” – what could be more credible?
The Truth:
“…The Wachovia collapse was primarily caused by the GDW purchase, which became an albatross around Wachovia’s neck soon after the purchase. “Wachovia found itself in ARM’s Way” was the headline of a recent Wall Street Journal article. A huge percentage of these Wachovia ARMs were made to deep subprime borrowers with very poor credit scores. Most of these were “inherited from its ill-timed acquisition of Golden West” at the end of the housing boom in 2006…”
Enough said.
Censorship is a vital tool of the lunatic left. All leftist governments use it to control their populations (the Chinese being the most obvious). What makes you think it’s any different in the US? The leftist controlled media has lied and propagandized this country for over 60 years and you all are only noticing it now? Get a clue. Leftist have no boundaries that control their efforts to MAKE YOU do things their way. They believe in nothing and will defend that right to the bitter end. G-E-T A C-L-U-E people. THEY”RE VERY DANGEROUS.
Looks like they’re at it again. As I was watching the original version, it magically disappeared from youtube. Attempts to locate the original version on youtube all failed!
This shouldn’t surprise anyone. NBC is in the tank for ANY lib. Did you hear W complaining? No, never does, because he’s a man. Just the wimpy left complains at the drop of a hat…and NBC gets on their knees and says “whatever you want”.
This was a great skit because it essentially ripped on everybody (not enough on Pelosi, who screwed up last Mondays vote with her mini-tyraid). Anyways, it was good b/c it blamed many parties – banks, hedge funds, people who shouldnt have taken this out in the first place. Keep up the good work SNL!
I think censorship like this is just normal…..in North Korea!!! Iran!!! China!!!!
Also, those kids singing that song for one presidential candidate reminds me of North Koreans kids singing for their leader….pretty scary!
SNL brought Soros and the Sandlers out of the shadows. That is a no-no in Marxist land. If Hussein wins, can you imagine the crackdown on all communication? It is chilling.
And here’s a surprise – the unedited version is no longer available on YouTube. But NBC’s evil lawyers can’t reach my Tivo. I’m calling all my friends over and having a 1st Amendment party.
Losers. Fascists. Wimps.
WHEN NBC GETS THE HEAT,THEY NOT ONLY GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN, THEY TAKE THE KITCHEN WITH THEM
In SNL’s defense, ive been watching them for over 20 yrs and i find them to be equal opportunity offenders.
they have poked fun at EVERY President and VP. They have done many skits on the Clintons, Gore, Kerry, etc.
I’ll bet the Obama camp has given them some ground rules though….
These comments are hilarious, as was the SNL skit. I’ve been loosely following the bouncing ball video all over the Net.
The funniest part: the more someone tries to stop something from being disseminated, the more it happens.
The video is already a classic, but the original won’t be around forever, so get your copy before it’s gone.
BTW it is a bit curious that’s NBC’s so-called standards weren’t degraded by airing the already mentioned Palin incest skit. YUCK
The skit was pulled because it was just a bit too close to reality. Google “obama cloward-piven” and you will find out what is really going on. ACORN CRA laws and the Dems started pushing out subprime garbage to commercial banks and investment banks with fannie & freddie packaging them. Bush, McCain and others tried to rein in Fannie & Freddie but were blocked. Banks had to make loans to people who could never pay them back or the banks were sued under phony “redlining” laws and threats to the bank they were “racists.” Fannie, Freddie and threats from DOJ (Obama’s pal Deval Patrick & Reno). The commercial and investment banks were not infected with the subprime virus.
Next a certain hedge fund billionaire and other hedge fund shorts used shorting and buying credit default swaps to kill off these companies one at a time – Countrywide, Indy Mac,Bear Stearns, AIG, Lehman, WAMU and Wachovia, etc. The shorts making billions and creating “Cloward-Piven” chaos. The next step is to drive the stock market down and possibly wipe out the global financial system.
What you are witnessing is the greatest financial theft in history with the secondary aim of an election coup d’etat. These people will wipe out your life savings for profit and to gain power. The SNL spoof was a bit too close to reality for the perps.
Year after year, censorship attempts on creative programming have come from Democrats. Yet, ironically, the media and hollyweird types stand up and beg for them to be elected. They have become the real life Dumb and Dumber. It’s everyone’s free speech that is the target, dummies!
The Sandlers and John Edwards bag man Fred Baron have a long tangled financial history, including their own 527 campaign fund founded by Jonathan Prince and Lora Haggard:
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/50_43/news/7148-1.html?type=printer_friendly
Comment by Paradigm: “But they have no problem suggesting incest in the Palin household – that met NBC standards?”
My feelings exactly. NBC looks very foolish with this.
Anyone who defends the Sandlers is a joke. They deserve the public lampooning for their disgusting products and business practices they employed.
Does anybody remember nancy pelosi coming out immediately after the crisis started and saying it wasnt us it wasnt us, oh puleeeeeasssee. And Obama with a two minute video pointing out our fears. People this is nota conspiracy, it is a full fledged attack on our country. The socialist left in this country knows that if they can make people fear their pocketbook they will win, it was chuck shummer who put out that lie that cause that run on the bank in california, and reid who said some big insurance companies are in trouble and cause stock to go down for many of them, come on, they are systematically trying to hurt us long enough to scare enough to win and pull this great country into socialism, wake up America before its too late, and since obama is ahead in the polls and climbing i think is, unless you get out and fight for your country, all is lost.
Hey… this is going to be the year that we finally realize that the press and mainstream media has finally dropped all pretense of being impartial. They are rooting for Obama and doing everything they can to influence the country and distort or hide the truth.
Well, I and others have copies of the original.
Jam a cork in the NBC memory hole!
This is so right on. I can’t wait for GE and NBC to go out of business and take Pelosi, Franks, Soros, and BO with them! What has our country come to when our President is made a fool of and we call it humor.
Potential lawsuit? Sure by Obamaites and the Communist Party USA
One more reason NBC and, unfortunately, GE going down the drain. I cannot tell you the last time I have watched a program or national news on NBC or MSNBC, and probably a lot more people are doing the same. Funny how they apparently never do anything about Obama or Biden. Biden has such a rich history of gaffs they could use. Can you imagine really blowing it with Ahmajinadad? A great skit would be the water boy, Obama, replacing the head coach. So much material, so little application.
Haven’t watched snl in years. And when we did, we taped it and skipped over the 30 minutes of commercials.
And we were extremely dedicated viewers. Mad tv is much better anyway.
The writers hit a home run, and NBC has lost it’s soul.
John Belushi is turning over in his grave, and Chris Farley is screaming, That (censorship) is going to lleave a mark”.
Goodbye SNL, it was nice to know ya, but when you fold to political pressure, you have lost it. And when you make up stories about editing due to “the lawyers”, here’s an idea. Fire management, and let lawyers run your business. This proves they are running your business.
Some days I fear it is hopeless. The media will NEVER be fair, yet they make demands of those on the Right to be “fair” while the Left is NEVER “fair.”
The average Obama voter is clueless, and happily so; ready to believe any lie that comes down the pike against Republicans!
Why does the Left hate America (and average Americans) so badly? And, when will those average Americans rise up against the Left with as much passion as the Left has venom?
Do they not know that their days are numbered if they do not pull together?
The “Third Party/Ron Paul/Bob Barr” advocates are working for the Left.
Those who “hate” John McCain are working for the Left.
Those who still want Huckabee or Romney are working for the Left.
Those who won’t bother to vote are working for the Left.
“Conservative Christians” who don’t support McCain are working for the Left.
Those who are incensed about “amnesty” are working for the Left.
It is no wonder the Left is winning; they have so much help from the “supposed” Right.
What a shock! LIBERALS are censors? say it ain’t so, Joe!
Those intolerant agents of tolerance… they can dish it out, but they can NEVER take it.
I don’t recall SNL being especially kind to Clinton when he was in office. Have its writers devolved from whimsical neo-fascists to seditious, bed-wetting liberals or is SNL simply being SNL? If the latter, there’s not much of a takeaway apart from the possibility that the left has a better sense of humor than the right.
If NBC’s decision to edit the clip represents kowtowing to political interests, as most of these comments presuppose, I would wholeheartedly agree that it is shameful. Another reader suggested that the appearance of suborning violence was the likely consideration, and that seems far more plausible. Fine, but spare me the righteous indignation / feigned concern for the safety of the Sandlers. Governor Palin didn’t flinch when one of the faithful enthusiastically shouted for Barack Obama’s murder at one of her rallies today.
Those of you who are sexually aroused at the prospect of a multi-billion dollar libel suit against GE, NBC or any other network that it isn’t Fox should brush up on your black letter law. There’s no case. If you want to see all the trappings of a promising libel case in the making, pretend you’re Barney Frank, read Rose M’s comments, and pretend they are written in semi-coherent prose mistakable for logic. For you see, Rose M asserts (without proof) that Barney Frank has committed a crime, intimates that Frank is wantonly promiscuous (the “must-make” assumption amongst homophobes everywhere) and assures all of us: “that’s not comedy. THAT’S TRUTH.” If that’s truth, her comedy must be off the hook.
Once a Canadian, always a Canadian. I guess you just can’t trust Lorne Michaels to give an honest count when it comes to left and right politics.
NBC needs to be slapped around the SNL writers finnaly wrote a good skit and then the Libs in charge had to pull it becaues it struck to close to home. i feel like we should be doing somthing about this i dont want all my tv edited by any political group
lack of freedoms this way comes (hey look barry leads the way)
Screw American News and American Media. I watch BBC WORLD, DW, CCTV and a lot of other foreign news outlets for my information. There is no bias when they report the American news and the best part is there is no partisian spin
I am conservative and do believe NBC and MSNBC are the most bias networks broadcasting today.
That said, even TV parody should not call for people to be shot. There are some crazy people out there killing themselves over this financial mess.
Even a network as bad as NBC can do the right thing.
NBC IS A PRIME PROMOTER OF SOCIALIST REVOLUTION IN THIS COUNTRY. NOT SURPRISING THEY EDITED THIS ANTI-ABU HUSSEIN SKIT. MARC JERIC, LAS VEGAS
Go to hell NBC. What my family and I are REAL. You have millionaires who feel bad for what has happen as they drink cocktails in their seaside homes! Stop the bias.
Worldmortgageholder stated:
“While World did make option/ARM loans, it did so based on real appraisals and real credit scores.”
Sorry, but I was in the business for a period of time. They did make loans with 30% down and no docs, no down payment, you did not even need to be in the U.S. LEGALLY. While some might say 30% down is secure, it apparently is not.
While NBC’s ratings are low, MSNBC is doing very well.
Morning Joe’s viewer ship is up.
Olberman gets around 1.8 million a night.
Maddow is the number 1 new show and gets around 1.6 million viewers.
So don’t down MSNBC because they are nipping at FAUX News heels in the 24/7 news channel race.
a previous post got it right- parody is protected under the first amendment so their argument for legal issues is pretty flimsy
they pulled it because lefty’s actually sue. they are the litigious ones, with staffs and staffs of PI type litigators. Republicans would just as soon get out of the shower to pee than sue over hurt feelings…they just don’t attract more attention to each other.
It’s not defamation when it’s true, Nikki.
Meanwhile, is this the same SNL that “joked” Sarah Palin’s husband was fucking their own daughter? Cause, you know, that’s all anyone does outside of those steaming piles of morals in LA and NY. Hmm. Clearly, it’s open season on conservatives (aka the majority of this country) but God forbid the libs get treated the same way.
Barack Obama was the largest recipient of political contributions from FNMA and FRMC. Barney Frank’s fiance’ was “New Products Manager” at Fannie.
George Soros doesn’t “own” the Democratic Party, he just holds the mortgage.
Where were most of you during 1992 to 2000? Do you not remember all the skits bashing both Bill and Hilary Clinton or all the skits that bashed Gore? With all the serious issues that we as Americans are facing, most of you are crying about a skit on television?! Go visit someone with cancer who can’t afford treatment. Go visit a family with a foreclosure sign in the front yard, or go to your local elementary school and take notice of all the young kids that are being pushed through school without learning how to read. Then you will have a reason to cry!
Oh, just grow up. Sarah Palin is evidently more steeled to criticism than the wusses shown in the skit. *(With the exception of W. Parody of him has been his constant shadow.)
NBC IS NOT “FAIR AND BALANCED”….SIMPLE AS THAT!
Call any Russian senior citizen and ask them if this sounds familiar. We truly no longer have a free press or any free medium for that matter.
All I have to say is freedom of speech.
SNL is still on the air? That shows stopped being funny 20 years ago. I assumed it had been cancelled.
This isn’t censorship, it’s exposure to legal liability, and NBC was correct. Sullivan v. N.Y. Times doesn’t apply to limited public figures or to violent content. Under the First Amendment, satire is not absolution for a threat to a specific person. You CAN say, for example, “kill ALL people who support McCain and Bush because they’re traitors and scum and ruined our country and stand for everything bad and God hates them and they all have small genitals,” but you CANNOT say “kill Republican John Doe.”
Thanks, NBC. You’ve now convinced me to vote for McCain. If sleazebags like the Sandlers are supporting Obama, I certainly won’t!
Legal Reasons you took it down???? Listen you clowns. If it had been a piece on the Republicans you’d have gone full Whore. Can’t blame y0ou though, the DEMOCRATS ARE A PRETTY NASTY BUNCH
This is entertainment and not the media. Whatever fools do will only sway the fools. We have the internet to base our research and that is what we should the basis of our opinions.
Uh, for the guy who has a “friend” at World that said that they didn’t sell sub-prime loans… I’m in the business and they were at the forefront of the subprime movement. They gave loans that required no FICO score and HUGE margins on their option arm loans that pile on unpaid principle to a Borrower’s loan balance that inturn flips the Borrower to be upside down in their mortgage. That means that people who couldn’t afford the home, could make a minimum payment that would eventually require that they own more than their home is worth. They made insane amounts of money on this, period.
Disgusting. Liberal media and true censorship at its worst.
If people think this country is low now, it’s only going to get worse if the most ultra liberal, inexperienced, slicker than dog-shit senator becomes Prez. of this great country!
That skit was almost as funny as “An American Carol”
msNBC and 98% of MSM is OBVIOUSLY biased towards Progessives (read Liberals/Socialists).
Never more obvious than this election year.
Gee, just when I thought SNL was becoming edgy again.
Too bad. Now they can go back to the usual lame, rehashed and predictable sketches.
Looks like the REAL story here is that Lorne Michaels has no power left at NBC.
The nut house is “faux news”, now stop hating you neocon losers!!!!!
I don’t see how this skit would have been any more lawsuit worthy than the one mentioning incest.
Someone couldn’t find their sense of humor. tsk tsk
“I am conservative and do believe NBC and MSNBC are the most bias networks broadcasting today”.
As long as Fox News is on the air, this statement is laughable.
It was a comedy skit, not a news program. SNL isn’t obligated to offer clips at all. They OWN it, right? You like private ownership, you love Fox, but someone from the left acts on your principles, and you righties go beserk. Freedom this, and freedom that, right? You should be embarrassed by your hypocrisy.
My guess is someone at NBC got screwed in the Wachovia deal – otherwise why write this skit? Doesn’t help Obama. People need to wake up!!!
Wait, the video didn’t meet NBC standards? THEY HAVE STANDARDS? You’ve got to be kidding me! STANDARDS? NBC? This world HAS gone to hell in a handbasket!!!!
The skit was hilarious!
Drudge Trolls, here’s another fact for ya:
Obama’s ahead in all of the polls.
Except the 1 your pathetic master manufactures, of course.
Regardless of the skit, its fate or anything else, your ineffectual Grandpa & his nurse are going to lose the election…
Most of the comments are written as if the whole skit was removed. That was only briefly true. It’s back, with very little changed.
Of course, to find out the real cause of the economic catastrophe, you’ll have to look at a non-comedy show — 60 minutes.
All those mortgages weren’t great, but their negative effects were HUGELY AMPLIFIED by companies selling insurance that they didn’t have reserves to cover. They
called the insurance “debt swaps” to avoid regulation (which is automatic whenever you sell insurance).
It’s blatant fraud, which is why the FBI is investigating.
Look at 60 Minutes yourself.
Shame on you NBC and I am glad I dumped your Stock,I guess Obama Hussein or whatever his name is he will get a pound of our flesh for not voting for him and he got his critic thrown in jail by Odinga in Kenya. But I think he will get more material for subsequent books. Now NBC is totally backing Obama and there reporters Mathews and Doberman along with MSNBC are proud to have produced these silly skits and I hope they are taken to cleaners. It looks Jeffery Immelt is either letting it run like confused mass of protoplsm or doing it in an organised way and making a fool of himself. What ever it is it is wrong and he will pay a price for it someday.
whiners-
You sound like the wussy dems you make fun of. You make real repubs look bad. Go be real men and quit bitching like little girls. RIght, left, it doesn’t matter, grow up and become American, which doesn’t include your european style whining. I almost thought you were french!!!
SNL=APPEASERS
Still pretty good. It would be nice if the NBC nightly news could get this close to the truth!
Anything that would send Malkin in such tizzy makes me all warm and happy inside. She’s Ann Coulter without the meth problem.
“Upon review, we caught certain elements in the sketch that didn’t meet our standards.”
That’s a first…what standards? LOL
Who gives a rat’s buttocks? Michelle Malkin was upset? gee, I bet both of her readers wrote a letter. Saturday Night Live hasn’t been relevant in 20 years. Granted the Tina Fay as Sarah Failin stuff has been hilarious. But if it didn’t come in the first 10 minutes of the show, nobody would have noticed that either. This is typical right wing tempest in a teapot BS. As the economy goes down the crapper thanks to Dubya’s policies, endorsed by years of GOP control in the congress, they want to worry about conspiracy theories over some stupid, lame SNL skit. Keep tilting Malkin, you’ll defeat those windmills someday.
It’s sad the skit was taken off for its accurate story telling. The libs were called out on their mistake by SNL, but of course as Nancy Pelosi told reporters the other week “it’s not our fault”. Kudos to the writers at SNL who did their research and probably said “wow, you can’t make this stuff up! ha!”.
Soros and the other big democratic supporters all whine and complain over this, but where were their complaints when SNL aired a skit about Palin’s husband having sex with their children and saying the daughters baby was actually the fathered by Palin’s husband?!
Funny how that wasn’t taken down for “editing”, and if you ask me.. that was FAR more innappropriate.
Wow, the right wing sure does like to whine and complain. How sad.
This is the funniest skit I have seen so far–its also spot on. What a suprise the intolerant left is upset—but its ok to air a skit about incest (Todd Palin)
NBC = National Barrack Network
My God, Republicans are such WHINERS. Poor, poor put-upons. The controversy has not been invented that is so trivial that Republicans cannot use it as an excuse for yet more of their incessant whining. ‘The Left! The Media! People who live in Coastal areas!’ Etc., etc.
The only thing that was changed about the video segment was that the ‘people who should be shot’ graphic was removed. Can any of you whiners draw any inferences from that? Like maybe that it was the part NBC thought was objectionable?
But don’t let the obvious slow you down. Let the whine-fest continue.
Mike
This is hilarious. The scary thing to me is that nobody is talking abt the concept behind the Community Reinvestment Act or the govts involvement with Fannie Mae. The Democrats have long used these as tools for extending credit to people who nobody wanted to lend to. Of course the Democrats chalked it up to RACISM when govts did not want to lend to risky minorities and forced them to lend, looks like the banks may have been on to something when they decided not to lend.
NBC, and the rest of the media, are taking to Obama-inspired censorship like ducks to water.
The Obamanation will be a very quiet place. We will all know, see hear only what our dear leader appreciates.
NBC and the NYT are leaders in this, hoping to earn extra “standing O’s”, Obama media approval points.
The freedom of the press only exists when the press cherishes its freedom.
The America media stopped caring about that freedom awhile back. Obama will be happy to see that it is directed in an acceptable way.
Let’s see, NBC is the most liberal news media out there, they take down a SNL skit bashing the democrats. If this skit was about the republicans, these clowns would have had all kinds of posts out there giving links to it. This example shows that people are supporting Obama and the dumb-ass-ocrats for the wrong reasons. Obama is bad for this nation and a Obama win will be a end to our democracy and freedoms. Obama is frightening me and even my 14 and 16 year old children, whom i do not discuss politics with, are scared of what Obama brings.
When I saw the original skit, I was taken back at how harsh this was towards the Democrats. Very rare that the liberal SNL would take pot shots at the left like that. Oh it was funny, but so unlike them since they only think it’s acceptable to knock the right, not the left!
What happen to comedy?
Too bad.
WOW the Ultra -Leftist can dish it out BUT they sure can’t take it. Hats off to SNL for putting on the skit. I found it to be hillarious and truthful! Shame on NBC for “banning it”. The proud peacock is a turkey with two black eyes! Also, NBC’s excuse for “banning” the skit, (fear of being sued by Soros) is B.S. The guy probably secretely owns them or some other entity that owns them? After watching the daily media bias and hypocracy regarding this election I have had enough.I will never take ANY of the major media outlets or newspapers seriously again. ALL of their reputations for presenting a fair and balenced news report has forever been destroyed beyond repair.
SNL’s release of the piece was yet another example of baby-boomer f’d up logic. They still haven’t learned: just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should do something.
The irony about the statement: “People who should be shot” is that it’s *exactly* what’s going to happen if this economy craters and too many lose their jobs. In fact, it’ll probably happen anyway as government tries to level the playing field by helping one group at the expense of another…the latter feeling disenfranchised and/or vulnerable.
Judging by most of the posts in political threads like this, 21st century America is not a country/society that’s equipped to handle large-scale adversity. While everyone is pointing their (blame) fingers elsewhere, the problem grows. Start with yourselves before you look outward.
Legal considerations my ass. Bash conservatives and kiss butt for liberals. Just more proof of the bias!!!
Today they put up an “Edited Version”. Humm isn’t that the same as a “Censored Version”? I just hate liars, hypocritics, and cry babies! That pretty much sums up my opinion of the Democrat leadership and their allies the BIASED MEDIA!
This is the fairness doctrine. This is what certain people in Congress wish to pass. They want equal time on air for both sides of the issues regardless of whether its talk radio, network news, or SNL. Problem is they do not want to have it go both ways. Typical…
NBC = Never Bash Socialists.
Congress seems to have lots of time on its hands blaming and investigating oil, airline and other executives for greed and corruption; however, they never ONCE questioned the unethical and blatant bias, censorship and lack of diversity of thought by the BIG FAT cats in the media conglomerate or is that against their “freedom of speech”. Total freedom to an elitist select group is NOT freedom for all!!
Isn’t it sad that even comedy has become so viciously partisan that there needs to be this discussion. This was a joke, nothing more. There are millions of jokes about Bush (a lot that have no factual basis)and he doesn’t sue for defamation. Also, anyone that is going to exact vigilante justice based on a TV skit is deranged. This is not defamation or slander, and the actions by NBC are the precursors to submitting to censorship. Read any of John Stewart’s interviews, comedy is not news!
This is what our country is coming to, loss of free speech and thugs making phone calls to quiet people they don’t agree with. It sounds like a news story out of cold war Russia and Soros is the head of the KGB. Welcome to the New America folks! You all still want your messiah, the “Agent of Change” for America to be president? You must really have your heads in the sand as to what that “change” is going to be! Free speech is on its way out the door. This SNL skit getting yanked and revised is just the icing on the cake people. Google socialism lately?
This is one step closer to the SNL I remember ..who can forget “Point counter Point” with Jane and Dan ..when they kept it even …for the last 10 yrs they have gone so far left its sickening ..get back on track and I will start watching again ..otherwise I will stick to Mad TV
This censorship of a parody proves hove the left wing idealogy has corrupted the NBC culture. Makes one wonder if this same idealogy has corrupted GE too. But just this morning the CEO of the Media Research Center praised Tom Brokaw for being a terrific moderator; but he condemn harshly Chris Matthews and Keith Oberman too. Afterall after the convention coverage it was Obereman and Matthews who stepped on Tom Brokaw shoes. As for Rachel Maddow she isn’t so sharp as she thinks she is. I read her bio and she’s a former aides actvist. Frankly I would rather watch Mika Berensky whose more professional than she is. Mika should have her own show instead Maddow at the 8pm timeslot.
When idealogy corrupts a corporate culture like Immmelt has let happen,it destroys the product like NBC news and MSNBC overtime. If I bought both the news divisions I would fire and clean house and reinvent the culture so it can compete against Fox News and CNN. But to appeal to the left wing fringes only is a real stupid descion and the smart viewing public should be respected.
This is a joke. Of all the skits in all the years of snl, and of all the people brought into the spotlight, legality suddenly shows up.
Anybody that thinks NBC pulled that video without being pressured is delusional.
Its funny how they will run a Bush,Palin,or Mccain skit but has to edit a skit with Dems in it.Thats why ill go see American Carrol.
After the Todd Palin doing his daughter skit, I gave up SNL after watching it since the original show aired way back. Won’t watch it again. Although I heard all about Sat.’s bailout skit from my daugher. Made me laugh and thought maybe they are trying to be fair..although to suggest that someone is “doing” their daughter is about as low as one can go. Airing a skit that is so close to the truth as the Dems responsiblitly for the rape of the American public is certainly more accurate than the Palin/daughter skit.
Cable News Ratings for Tuesday, September 9
Posted on 10 September 2008 by Bill Gorman
Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for September 9 2008
P2+ Total Day
FNC – 1,463,000 viewers
CNN – 806,000 viewers
MSNBC – 493,000 viewers
CNBC – 217,000 viewers
HLN – 383,000 viewers
P2+ Prime Time
FNC – 3,402,000 viewers
CNN –1,565,000 viewers
MSNBC-1,275,000 viewers
CNBC –a scratch w/109,000 viewers
HLN – 860,000 viewers
25-54 Total Day
FNC – 395,000 viewers
CNN –270,000 viewers
MSNBC – 185,000 viewers
CNBC –63,000 viewers
HLN- 176,000 viewers
25-54 Prime Time
FNC –815,000 viewers
CNN –460,000 viewers
MSNBC –502,000 viewers
CNBC –a scratch w/ 48,000 viewers
HLN – 378,000 viewers
35-64 Total Day
FNC –702,000 viewers
CNN – 386,000 viewers
MSNBC – 255,000 viewers
CNBC – 109,000 viewers
HLN – 214,000 viewers
35-64 Prime Time
FNC – 1,482,000 viewers
CNN –682,000 viewers
MSNBC –640,000 viewers
CNBC –65,000 viewers
HLN –498,000 viewers
Morning programs (6:00AM-9:00AM) P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
FOX & Friends –1,088,000 viewers (366,000) (690,000)
American Morning-525,000 viewers (186,000) (275,000)
Morning Joe- 404,000 viewers (151,000) (223,000)
Squawk Box- 183,000 viewers (52,000) (112,000)
Morning Express w/ Meade- 309,000 viewers (156,000) (202,000)
6PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Special Report with Brit Hume – 2,079,000 viewers (472,000) (930,000)
Situation Room-1,079,000 viewers (384,000) (523,000)
Race/White House W/D Gregory- 569,000 viewers (201,000) (274,000)
Mad Money–239,000 viewers (97,000) (151,000)
Prime News- 253,000 viewers (102,000) (155,000)
7PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Fox Report w/ Shepard Smith – 2,078,000 viewers (512,000) (988,000)
Lou Dobbs–850,000 viewers (224,000) (370,000)
Hardball w. Chris Matthews–927,000 viewers (293,000) (442,000)
Kudlow & Company—164,000 viewers (64,000) (97,000)
Glenn Beck – 458,000 viewers (167,000) (229,000)
8PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor- 4,303,000 viewers (1,010,000) (1,936,000)
CNN Election Center- 992,000 viewers (268,000) (397,000)
Countdown w. Keith Olbermann– 1,598,000 viewers (555,000) (831,000)
On the Money–173,000 viewers (64,000) (108,000)
Nancy Grace –1,212,000 viewers (536,000) (697,000)
9 PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Hannity & Colmes–3,217,000 viewers (778,000) (1,368,000)
Larry King Live—2,005,000 viewers (564,000) (862,000)
Rachel Maddow Show–1,381,000 viewers (548,000) (667,000)
Business of Innovation—a scratch w/56,000 viewers (a scratch w/27,000) (a scratch w/33,000)
Glenn Beck- 724,000 viewers (270,000) (383,000)
10 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
On the Record w/ Greta—2,686,000 viewers (658,000) (1,141,000)
Anderson Cooper 360–1,698,000 viewers (549,000) (788,000)
Countdown w. Keith Olbermann –847,000 viewers (403,000) (424,000)
Big Idea w/ Donny Deutsch—a scratch w/98,000 viewers (53,000) (54,000)
Nancy Grace –688,000 viewers (345,000) (432,000)
11 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor- 1,721,000 viewers (582,000) (881,000)
Anderson Cooper 360—1,093,000 viewers (467,000) (642,000)
MSNBC Investigates–337,000 viewers (155,000) (125,000)
Mad Money—148,000 viewers (69,000) (83,000)
Showbiz Tonight– 454,000 viewers (217,000) (250,000)
P2+ = viewers over the age of 2
(25-54) = Adults 25-54 viewing
(35-64) = Adults 35-64 viewing
Prime Time = 8-11pm
LIVE+SD: The number that watched a program either while it was broadcast OR watched via DVR on the same day [through 3AM the next day] the program was broadcast.
For more information see Numbers 101.
Scratch = when a show’s audience fails to meet minimum Nielsen reporting levels. For more information go here.
Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2008 The Nielsen Company. All Rights Reserved.
AS YOU CAN SEE B MSNBC ISNT DOING GOOD AND IS NOT NIPPING AT ANYONES HEELS!Maybe you nee to watch another channel that doesnt lie about there ratings.
SNL IS JUST NOT FUNNY, ANYMORE. THEY ACTUALLY LOOK FOOLISH AT TIMES. SO NOW, THE SHOW GOES OVERLY BIASED POLITICALLY AND JUST WATCH HOW SOON THE SHOW CRASHES.
SNL LOST ME AS A VIEWER.
So, it is okay for the liberal, left wing media to bash Republicans but not democrats? Wake up America-the liberal, socialist left wing, which includes the media, is trying its damndest to decide the direction of this election and of this country. From SNL “skits” to movies about Bush to CNN “news” they are doing everything they can to direct mold public opinion and us straight into Marxism.
Give me a break! For legal reasons? The only reason is that it made the Dems look bad. Would NBC pulled it if it was a Republican congress that caused this mess. No way.
I was surprised to see political balance on NBC. The skit is an accurate account of how our President and Congress are both responsibility for putting our economy and the lives of many, many Americans in crisis. Where does all of this stop? Every community in our country needs to be vocal. Let’s set up protest marches and demand term limits for Congress. We have to stop the bleeding and take the responsibility to make our Congress work for the people and not against them. Enough is enough!!!!
Typical Liberal baloney. Cry openness and freedom of speech unless you disagree and then censor! LOL! The so-called party of tolerance is vicious to say the least…
God, I hate when ideology kills comedy. If you can’t make fun of Pelosi and her gang (yes, Daily Show, I’m talking to you) just because you’re a Democrat, that’s pathetic.
Excuse me, but the explanation for editing the piece is bovine feces and requires, to be believed, a willing suspension of disbelief.
So they let the skit stay implying incest in the Palin family, but they edit this one. NBC is run by reprobates.
This is absurd; we have been making fun of the politicians for years, since the 1700’s at least, and most likely even further back, to Shakespeare in the 1200’s. How about Lewis Carrol, and Twain, and so many others. This is the new move towards total censorship,and lack of freedom of speech,and thought, or at least the speaking of that thought. I am ashamed of this move, and any sensible person would be. There is more to come; you will not be able to speak your mind soon, or make satires, or jibes, or parodies on anything for fear our minds are so vulnerable that we cannot even take a joke. Jeessh. Give me a break. Have we truly gone over the edge of sanity?
I don’t have a problem with editing out “people who should be shot”.
Isn’t it amazing that SNL can flat out accuse Sarah Palin’s husband of committing incest with their daughters and NOBODY at NBC thought they would have any “legal problems” because of that? Yet they turn tail and run like the little lickspittles they are when some limousine liberals start whining like babies in month old diapers!
America, WAKE UP! You have nothing to lose but lousy TV shows and lying liberal politicians!
This is our ‘fairness doctrine’ in action, LOL!!!!!
But NBC thinks its fine for SNL to say that Palin’s husband is molesting his daughters?
This is how liberal and unbalanced a supposed comedy show is now a days – - – - They worry about “upsetting” Congressional figures as oppose to a possible VP!!~~~
Boy that’s brains, class and skewed thinking.
What is extraordinary about this is that it goes against all of Saturday Night Live’s traditions and practices for 30 years. The very core and essence of SNL has always been irreverence and a willingness to poke the rich and powerful in the eye. As others pointed out, this is PARODY. Everyone knows this is PARODY. Everyone knows they are making fun of people as satire. Everyone knows that SNL skits are over-the-top silly humor, and are not the truth. The idea of SNL pulling its punches for anyone is a complete betrayal of everything that SNL is and always has been. While it can easily be said that SNL’s chryon label over the screen “People who should be shot” was in extremely poor taste, can’t that be said about 70% of all SNL skits???? The idea of criticizing SNL for poor taste (pushing the edge of the envelope) is like criticizing Iceland for being cold in the Winter. The very meaning of SNL has always been a willingness to look at “the line” of social “good taste” and eagerly leaping over the line, to the amusement of young people who like to challenge social stuffiness.
I actually suspected the lawyer action because it was so obviously lawsuit bait with that “People who should be shot” caption.
Nonetheless, it’s STILL wrong to have taken the video down, re-edited it, and put it back up. The element that’s missing from the discussion is that NBC is a TV network using public airwaves. It enjoys a copyright on material pumped immediately into the public domain and memory, by using public property. It should not be able to make a historical record and then destroy it. It cannot morally cover its tracks like this.
If NBC libeled the Sandlers, it may have a responsibility to stick a disclaimer on the video, but it should not be OK for it to rewrite history at their behest.
However, as Lawrence Lessig has pointed out in his book (free on the Internet) “Free Culture,” under current laws, the networks are free to destroy their archives as well as alter them. While copyrighted authors and artists must deposit a copy of their work with the Library of Congress, broadcasters profit from our airwaves yet supposedly enjoy a “copyright” power to censor their own product, even on others’ Web sites. I would venture to say that they could even sue you if you use this material in a parody by, say, putting it on YouTube with a different caption, like, “People who will never be shot, ridiculed, or libeled, by legal decree.” They might not win, but who has hundreds of thousands of dollars lying around to pay lawyers to defend “fair use”?
We need to change the copyright laws in this country and evict such abusive broadcasters from “our” airwaves if they insult us again.
Copyright law was invented to encourage the free flow of information by making it initially profitable to the creator. It has since been rewritten to protect the profits of the creator “in perpetuity” by restricting information.
Censorship by the left; the constitution and our First Amendment rights take another hit by the liberals who hate the Right’s point of view. Democrats and the left who run NBC will do everything they can to suppress freedom of speech unless it goes along with their narrow and socialistic point of view. Criticize the Right all you want and you will get praised and honored.
This just shows our future…sadly, guys, if we don’t remove the sheild from our eyes…we’re going to have to go “underground” with our opinions…because you know those Fascist, Socialist Dems won’t allow us to speak anything against them! THEIR gods…you know??? They are the only smart ones out there…the rest of us are just ignorant people. We’re proving it with people gravitating to Obama as if he is “The One” to pull us out of the economic problem…WHEN he was one of them to get us into it in the first place (Community Service: remember??? Do some homework as to what they do…maybe it’ll open your eyes–or maybe it won’t because you want to believe everything the media says and not do your own thinking). ALL OF THIS UNDER THE GUISE OF RACISM! Give me a break!!! If the banks knew someone wasn’t making enough money to make payments…why force them to lower their standards all in the name of racism?? They were the ones fighting it! And, it was the Republicans calling for regulation on this stuff…just as the video showed! I wish the clip of Barney Frank and another woman representative was out there in the publics eye so people could hear their condenscending responses to the Republicans (or any one who challenged or questioned Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack!) And, now they want us to sweep it under the rug while they CONTINUE TO GET MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND OUR MONEY IS NO LONGER THERE FOR PENSIONS!????!!! YOU ARE IGNORANT FOR SUPPORTING SUCH A PARTY!!! YOU TRULEY BELIEVE THEY CAN HELP YOU??? This whole Freddie Mack and Fannie Mae should be an eye opener to us all for how our politicians have made money off from our hard earned dollars that we have put aside for pensions! And, you believe their rhetoric of BIGGER GOV’T TAKING CARE OF YOU??? MORE TAXES?? HOW MANY OF YOU HONESLTY CAN AFFORD MORE TAXES OUT OF YOUR CHECKS??? YOU THINK YOUR OPPRESSED NOW??? WAIT TILL THESE TAXES ALL UNDER THE GUISE OF HELPING YOU START GOING OUT OF YOUR PAYCHECK. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY YOUR CREDIT CARDS, BILLS, ETC. WHEN IT’S GOING TO THE GOV’T? Oh, it’s for a good cause you say…heath insurance. Ok, so your now 60 years old and need a kidney transplant, but you cannot get one because your too old and you must die. Anyone been to an innercity clinic??? Check them out and you’ll see first hand the care you’ll get. I dare you…just go…check it out! Better yet, take a trip to Cuba…that’s close by and see what kind of care they get? How about Canada! Do you know why people come here for medical help??? This whole thing is a whirlwind…and we cater and grovel to people in power–giving them more authority. Apparently, our schools haven’t taught history! Apparently, we thought, or think, our country is invincible. Well, your decision on Nov. 4 will prove it! Are you going grovel out of fear??? Or, are going to do your God given duty…vote, have Faith, and pull yourself up! Oh, I forgot…you don’t want God…you want gov’t. I’d rather struggle and pull myself up by the bootstrings–than to sell my soul to a man and/or gov’t. that will see me as ignorant: continuing to take my money for themselves (all under the guise of helping the poor). You and I both know…the politicians DO NOT give a hoot for the poor…and what about now that the Secretary of Treasury now has power to “ensure your money”. I want to ensure my own…I don’t want the gov’t. doing it! That’s why I want freedom to take my money and put into a saving account for retirement…I want my money to go into a savings account for medical expenses, ect. IT’S NOT THE GOV’T'S PLACE!! GOD FORGIVE US FOR WE KNOW NOT WHAT WE ARE DOING!
While parody is protected when it involves POLITICIANS, because they hold public office and are public figures, NBC lawyers are worried that some of the people paradied are NOT public figures (depending on who you ask).
Pathetic excuse from a pathetic company. Avoid GE products.
Yet another example of thin-skinned Democrats not being able to eat what they dish-out, surprise, surprise! It’s always the truth that hurts the most. Count on a hell-of-a-lot more pain if this country continues down the path of Socialism/Communism the left-wingers and 0-bama seem so determined to follow. The fun, has just begun.
Oh, the network has no problem bashing conservatives, Republicans, Christians, and anyone else the far left hates, but put something truthful about the Marxists on and they have a fit, so the network pulls or changes the skit. America is in the final chapter and after this election, none of you will recognize America any longer. We have a hard core leftist Marxist in Obama, and a goof ball in McCain. Either way we lose, but if Obama wins, we’re going to lose a hell of a lot more! I fear for the country, more so than I ever have before.
This is how it is…left wingers can’t take a joke, right wingers don’t get the joke.
A show like SNL needs to be free to make fun of everybody. That means religious people to atheists because we all have our stupid moments.
Free Speech/Satire/Parody DO NOT automatically guarantee that you can say anything. I do not know the facts in this SNL case, however, I work on an animated sketch comedy show and we have to met rigorous legal parody standards. Additionally, we meet with a lawyer to go over the scripts before production, building a defense beforehand, adjusting dialog, animatic timings, etc all to meet very specific parody/satire requirements. We have had our sketches pulled after they’ve aired…even after meeting our lawyers demands/S&P demands, etc. Those sketches never aired again, nor were we allowed to put them on the DVD. The argument that free speech automatically gives you a pass to say anything you want when your parent company is GE, et al is convenient, but does not happen in the real world.
You know what? After reading about all of Soros’ 527’s, it’s such a scam It’s just not worth it to vote anymore. What chance does the truth ever stand against all that mega-buck propaganda? I’m just glad he’s an athiest, and whenever God does decide to step in, he won’t even be a memory.
Typical…welcome to the world of “what will happen when Dem’s are in control”….you think it’s bad now, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
This decision to rank a video that criticises Democratic policy once again reeks of Liberal mainstream bias. The mainstream media, Liberals, and bozos like Soros certainly like to dish out criticism but can’t take it. Why aren’t skits that poke fun at Palin pulled? Let’s face it, the democratic “do nothing congress” and actions by Carter and Clinton to push through mortgages reform for unqualified home purchasers are the main root cause of this financial meltdown.
The mainstream media’s extreme liberal bias rears it’s ugly head once again. From a business perspective I can’t understand why the media would deliberately choose to alienate 50% of its customers by using this kind of blatant bias in its news reporting and decision making.
This decision to rank a video that criticises Democratic policy once again reeks of Liberal mainstream bias. The mainstream media, Liberals, and bozos like Soros certainly like to dish out criticism but can’t take it. Why aren’t skits that poke fun at Palin pulled? Let’s face it, the democratic “do nothing congress” and actions by Carter and Clinton to push through mortgages reform for unqualified home purchasers are the main root cause of this financial meltdown.
The mainstream media sucks. I take pleasure when I see ratings drop or papers such as the New York Times struggling. Maybe the mainstream media news programs stick to keeping us updated on “Dancing with the Stars” or “American Idol”. That’s all they are good at.
The mainstream media’s extreme liberal bias rears it’s ugly head once again. From a business perspective I can’t understand why the media would deliberately choose to alienate 50% of its customers by using this kind of blatant bias in its news reporting and decision making.
It’s disgusting, the Sandlers, predatory lending, the crazy Soros/Goldfinger agenda, sub rosa millions and billions orchestrating a candidate’s “success”, 527’s, the whole incestuous crowd.
Barely a country you can recognize anymore.
“Doesn’t meet their standards.” This from a show that accused Todd Palin of incest a couple of weeks before?? Let’s face it. Soros and Sandler made a call and it was changed. NBC has sold their soul to the DNC and they are just taking orders like the lapdogs they have become.
I do give SNL props for an accurate skit, however!
B……
You are delusional. You crow about the performance of MSNBC and that insane robot, Keith Olbermann, but you ignore the fact that while he has a paltry 1.8 million viewers on his best night, Fox with O’Reilly and Hannity regularly bring in 4-5 million viewers every night and have capped out as high as 9 million.
Olberbot has become so delusional that Maddow beat him on her first night out.
Olbermann and Matthews need to stop pulling each others schlongs backstage while gazing longingly at a picture of Obama, and try to be journalists.
So, NBC had no problem with saying that Scott Palin was having incest with his daughters?
NBC=Nothing But Crap
They can sure dish it out but they can’t take it when they are the butt of the joke. Just like the fact that they want free speech except when it is against them. Do we EVER want those that want to squelch free speech to inhabit the White House? NO, never!
B…
Ratings for the Palin/Biden debate:
Fox – 9.1 million
MSNBC – 3.5 million
You are wrong…wronger…wrongest.
WOW!!! Foolish me! I was attempting to comment on ABC on their website to the political stories I was passionate about, only to find out they would censor me! Right here in America, I was not allowed to have a voice to defend the Right, and send to task the Liberal left! I certainly did not realize there were websites that allowed the truth here in America to be heard and not censored! God bless America and your website!
So its ok to accuse Mrs. Palins husband of inscet, but not ok to make fun of the democrats…Nice.
Do you paranoids believe this crap?
What evidence is that “lawyers” took it down? What evidence is there that they blamed the dems? It’s SNL, they poke fun at both sides…
Typical of the left wing media, their to affraid to tell the truth about the DEMS who caused this crisis with there socialist agenda. They were missing one flawed individual and that was Jimmy Carter the worst president of our time who started this mess with the Community re-investment act of 1978 (there was also a democrat controlled congress then also). The Pandering for votes by the liberals continues however I have to get back to the story of the FBI raiding the Communist Party headquarters in nevada oh I meant the ACORN offices.
If this had been the other way around… the leftist would have been screaming conspiracy. It was just satire… a parady… it’s SNL for God’s sake!!
People that actually vote are in bed when this show airs. People that watch it aren’t and don’t vote, so SNL is irrelevant. We all know NBC is in the bag for Obama. GE is just waiting for the election to be over before their absurd cable Obama network, MSNBC, is yanked off the air.
Did anyone else notice that in the original version of the skit Nancy Pelosi kisses Mrs. Sandler but not in the edited version? It would have been too obvious to pull Soros out of the new posting I guess.
It was probably an accident but SNL has gotten HUGE attention from this. I bet their web traffic is through the roof.
I’m laughing my a$$ off. Suddenly a parody shows a glimpse of what is behind the curtain of the Democratic party. I’ve got news folks… There are other ways to funnel money to ‘the rich’ than Bush’s tax cuts.. Fannie and Freddie created enormous wealth for it’s execs… and they had ties to both parties, Obama is one of the largest recipients of their campaign contributions. Anyone who thinks that the donkey party is the little guy’s party just isn’t paying attention!
Typical…………Dumbocrats cry and the media caves…….how typical.
Clinton and his Dumbocrat supporters bright idea of giving EVERYONE a home loan is why we are in this crisis………but hey, W will take the fall for the communists take over of this country. Idiots!
This bs censorship by NBC is now reflected in the polls. McCain is about 2 pts away from Obama and I think McCain is going to win.
Why all the outrage? I thought only liberals watched SNL? You guys coming out of the closet or what?
WorldMortgageHolder — October 7, 2008 2:39 PM: “A little fact-checking never got in the way of the Right Wing . . .”
Are we talking about the same type of necessary fact-checking from the Left and similar defamation of character when SNL “parodied” incest in the Palin household?
Well I was one person who caught it immediately early on. Associating ANYBODY to a subtitle “people who should be shot” is in very bad taste at best and worse in this case considering the angst we are all suffering for putting our hard earned retirement savings into the stock market only to see it melting away AND being told we frugal people ALSO have to bail out those who caused it. The good people are being punished and the bad people are being rewarded. Welcome to socialist THUGGERY!
Just shows can dish it out but can’t take it…liberals…
check out the truth on youtube where Barney defends Freddie and Fannie, and the CEO calls the dems “family.” Then what becomes parody is Reid, Pelosi, and Franks behavior on the hill. We are damn close to socialism in this country with Soros at the reigns.
“certain elements did not meet our standards” so we edited it. Where were those same standards when the implied that Todd Palin could possibly be commiting incest with his daughter? I have counseled incest victims and making light of something so tragic is beyond anyones standards. This show has long since outlived its usefulness as an entertainment vehicle. Get rid of this crap!
Given the dark side performance in this financial debacle, I find it absurd that they are going to trounce the republicans and have a grand sweep of all branches of government. As Einstein said “Stupidly is boundless.”
Come on, what do you expect? These people consider getting Obama and other Democrats elected to be their job. They are not going to take a chance at hurting them. They will probably run the skit after the election, then smirk and say “See, we’re not biased!”
At least now we all know where Obama is getting his money. The S&L and dot-com scams funded the Clintons, and the subprime scam is funding Obama.
Bily ‘O gets three times the ratings of “UBERMAN”
and that was before UBERMAN got fired by NBC news.
I love the way the lefties lie about anything they don’t like. You, lefties, and your empty suit candidate are FRAUDS. “Billy Ayers” I hardly knew ya”
The libscum are so ENRAGED that Fox News would subject a dummyrat like Barny (takes the) Frank to actual criticism they ORDER YOU not to listen. Libscum want you to get into the habit of having THEM program the “TRUTH” into you. Buy a 50 dollar short wave radio, listen to the BBC and other sources. MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND. Don’t let the libslime and their network helpers program you.
N-ational B-arry C-hannel
It is an amazing sketch. Editing out the offending line doesn’t change the content. It is funny and accurate at the same time. Obviously a lot of work went into this bit. Somehow, the message has gotten out about the democrats blocking regulation and it will keep getting out. People are angry and want someone to take responsibility on election day. Well people.. it was the democrats and that is an established fact. The 2004 Senate Hearings are making the rounds on youtube. Just search Fannie Mae etc. Democrats on tape defending Fannie Mae and its directors and angrily denouncing the regulator for even bringing up the subject.
Did anyone else notice that the edited version took away the George Soros “Owner – Democratic Party” graphic?
I no longer watch the evening news and have canceled all subsriptions with a leaning view. I also canceled my Washington Post News paper and get the Washington Times now. Nor will I support Hollywood with my money. I rent movies now, less money goes to the America haters that inhabit Hollywood.
I didn’t see the original, but that’s a funny skit! The caricatures were hysterical! LOL
If all this noise is about NBC simply removing a graphic labeling the Sandlers as “people who need to be shot,” the hysteric conspiracy theorists and wackos from both sides need to get a grip. Calling for someone to be shot is crossing the line…even for a comedy sketch program like SNL that has made a name for itself by crossing lines! The SNL people could have just as easily made their points by labeling them as “bound for Hell” or “future inmates.”
Get a grip people…
since when did legal issues ever worry NBC?
America left wing ass holes such as Soros is running the Democrats these days. There is no limit how far these ass holes can go in their partisanship. They hate America so much that they don’t care if they create mass unemployment and powerty in the rest of the world. For example Iceland is down the drain because of these damned ass holes.
If you think this is the end, you’re crazy. How many times did the “evil left” spout awful words about President Bush or some of his administration that had passed away. Sicko’s! If the liberals have their way and Obama gets in, you had better NEVER say a bad word about the “prince” because you’ll find yourself being fined or thrown into prison. You can laugh if you want but this is where the Country is going to go. We’ll be the next communist nation, watch and see.
Welcome to the onslaught of Fascism. I think Glenn Beck put it best yesterday when he said we had a fascist president before (Pres. W. Wilson)
and that it can happen again. We have to protect our free speech right now, and that includes the right to expose crooks (the Sanders) and severely whacked out leftist nut-jobs (Soros, Polosi, Frank, Obama, Etc…). That is the American way.
NBC is going down the same raod as Air America. They are becoming more irrelevant, and will fail.
Anyone with half a mind has to agree that the removal of a Dem-bashing skit, while a GOP-bashing skit practically earns an Emmy, is suspicious. Never doubt the power of money, especially in the hands of someone like George Soros.
Anyone remember the diatribes against the GOP when they were the big campaign contribution machine? Do you hear those complaints about Obama’s cash cow?
The right of the media to poke fun, and even make far-out accusations against a “public person” was enshrined in New York Times v. Sullivan, back in the 60’s. The right of redress was limited to only those accusations that were demonstrably false and made with malice. The courts almost never find a case that crosses that barrier where anyone who has made the limelight is being lampooned.
If you want an example — one that has to make you want to revisit that case — then consider that Larry Flynt got off after accusing Jerry Falwell (supposedly in jest) of raping his mother in an outhouse. If you can swallow that judgment, then surely the Sandlers have no case.
But, then, when did the political class start to become consistent?
I think that the issue has nothing to do with defamation because truth is a complete defense.
It is a CRIME, in CA, anyway, in fact a wobbler (can be a misdemeanor or felony) to – with INTENT to cause a riot – urge others to commit acts of force or violence (Section 404.6, Penal C., CA). I assume NY has something similar. In addition, if the Sandlers are Jewish, that may have been incitement of a hate crime, for example. The people behind the skit could have also been liable in a civil action if anyone had shot that couple. This doesn’t mean that people at the network would have necessarily faced criminal charges or a civil suit, or ever been found guilty or liable if it went that far, because there are adequate defenses to both on both intent and remoteness grounds, but they certainly opened themselves up to a hard look from both prosecutors and civil litigators if the couple had been shot.
Scary, particularly in difficult economic times. Just a thought.
The democrats are behind the Fannie Mae fiasco and at least one writer at SNL has figured that out. I hope he or she didn’t come into work Monday morning with a broken leg.
Michelle Malkin’s shrill, pointless blather about “leftist financiers” and “leftist organizations” supercedes any point she might have been able to make about NBC here. She obviously isn’t interested in contributing to debates about the role of media in our political culture; she merely intends to blather her way through the topic for her own self-aggrandizing.
The beginning of Obamunism where free speech from the right will be hushed permanently. Expect the Fairness Doctrine to be reinstituted once Obama takes office with his Dummycratic buddies in Congress. Very scary times for free speech in America.
Golden West proudly made subprime loans. To deny this is just nuts. In 2006, the Sandlers bragged about their subprime loan dynasty.
The skit wasn’t pulled. It’s up right now, linked to at the top of the page. The only thing that is different is the caption that said “People who should be shot” was removed (and even that, while a bit harsh, was a joke, not a call to action). Also, please remember that SNL airs on Saturday night, this skit aired at around midnight. Maybe all the people who were offended by this skit should go to bed earlier.
Every thing else is there, in it’s entirety.
It wasn’t censored. It wasn’t pulled. Your constitutional rights haven’t been violated. Calm down.
Let me re-assure “Anonymous” (Interesting name, can we use it to register a voter for ACORN?) Barney Frank did have a spousal (as he called it) relationship with Herb Moses, and Herb Moses was an exec at Fannie Mae, while Mr. Frank’s committee was “over-seeing” them. This is history. This is fact. THIS IS TRUTH. Google their two names and you will see multiple articles written many years ago, sympathetic to Frank, that veriries this relationship. This is no secret. It is a horrendous conflict of interest that needs some investigative reporting — maybe Mr. Olberman will put it on his agenda.
Contrary to your comments suggesting that I was making a homophobic comment, you couldn’t be more mistaken. I couldn’t care less that Mr. Frank and Mr. Moses are gay. I couldn’t care less that they had a domestic partnership . I didn’t suggest that either is promiscuous, and couldn’t care less if they are or are not. To most, the term “spouse” means a monogamous, committed relationship. I don’t even care that Mr. Frank had a paying relationship with prostitute Stephen Gobie, or that he fixed his parking tickets and let him live in his apartment.
What I do care about is that he was supposed to be over-seeing Fannie Mae, and he says he never knew they were cooking the books– he was handing them funds while his spouse was an exec there, and he never knew about their problems. He was told repeatedly by many many lawmakers and advisers from both parties that this was an Enron waiting to explode, and as little as four months ago, he went on TV and told everyone that everything was fine. Just like the Enron execs told all their share holders that everything was fine, til the doors were closed. I do care about the conflict of interest and negligence, and I do care that we handed oversight to half the US mortgages to a man that didn’t even know he had a prostitution ring operating out of his own apartment.
Though his actions are criminal, I never said he committed a crime, as you suggest. That is up to the AG. Pelosi should be calling for investigations of Frank’s committee. All I said was that they were duping the American people– which is practically the national past-time for all politicians and journalists.
Wow. SNL runs a skit that lampoons the system and players on both sides and the result is a hundred + comments of scathing vitriol.
Left or right will soon be the least of our worries. The fact that the entire electorate has devolved into the political equivalent of drunken soccer hooligans will send our society down the dustbin regardless of who’s in office.
Did you every imagine that the Liberal Progressives would become the thought police of the 21st century? Tom Brokaw is not the only one ashamed of NBC.
“But anyone who actually saw that video could see this might be a lawsuit waiting to happen.”
So, comedy skits about influencial Democrat moneymen is a “lawsuit waiting to happen”, but openly suggesting that the spouse of a vice-presidential candidate is a child molester is fair game. The real problem is that the new Democrat tactic is to silence all opposition with litigation or threats of litigation while claiming to support free speech.
Shame on NBC for caving.
A very simple answer on the ‘bias’ issue:
Has anyone (preferably someone impartial) actually *watched* the edited skit?
Did it only edit out or slightly alter the questionable language with regard to actual persons (Sandlers and Soros)?
Or did it gut the whole sketch?
I haven’t seen it but that would tell you everything you need to know on the ‘biased against the Right’ issue.
scary isn’t it? dems don’t realize who is really running their pary
Yet another example why I quit watching SNL years ago. They continue to produce JUNK……………
Wow. Just when I was beginning to think that there was some common ground b/t dems and republicans, I get these unbelieveable conspiracy theories abound. The SNL skit was hilarious and would have been no matter if the “victims” paraded up were Dems or Republicans. The skit was briefly taken down because they used the phrase “people who should be shot.” If God forbid, something happened to the Sandlers and the person responsible mentioned the show, SNL could NEVER recover- regardless if there would be any legal implication.
SNL has a long tradition of roasting whoever is in charge or running for office be it Gerald Ford (Chevy Chase), Jimmy Carter and Brother Billy (Dan Akroyd), Ronald Reagan (Phil Hartman), George H.W. Bush (Dana Carvey), Bill Clinton (Phil Hartman, Will Ferrell and Darrell Hammond) and of course, Dub-ya (Will Farrell).
SNL is obviously skewed towards the Dems, it always has been and always will be. The majority of comedy writers and actors lean left. However, everybody has to concede that the Republican party and it’s most seen leaders have given these writers and performers a treasure trove of material. Palin deserves to be skewered for her answers because they are unbelievably uninformed for the post she is seeking. Hillary Clinton deserves to be skewered for the “crying” she did on the primary circuit and guess what, she was. Obama has not had a gaffe like any of the Palin interviews or debate so therefore there is not as much ammunition to go after her. I don’t mind people thinking that the Dems are mean and evil, I just want somebody on the right to admit that this woman, however folksy and nice of a person she may be, is simply not qualified to be a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. Until the Republicans can admit she has some issues, she deserves to be raked over the coals at every turn.
Wait a minute…
This the same SNL on the same NBC that implied Mr. Palin had insectuous relations with thier daughters?
Nope, no bias here. Absoulutly none.
Can the people of the US take that $24Billion away from the Sandler’s after a conviction?
I really do not care so much about the ins and outs of the videeo officially going down for a few days but still being available everywhere anyway.
What I do care about is the idea that a pair of far leftists corruptly got themselves $24 Billion to use against the legitimate left and the rest of us.
That should not stand.
But incest sketches about the Palins is okay?! WTF?! Stop with the blind hatred and be honest for once in your lives!
GUYS-
It is MOST LIKELY that the skit was so popular that it was causing dropouts in their hosting abilities. It’s called “slash-dot”. Hosting and streaming video on the web is very bandwidth intensive and can bring a site down if too many hits come in.
Instead of looking for conspiracy, I say look at the simplest explanation. It’s most often the right one.
And since when did “Maybe it is” or “What ifs” become newsworthy? This pot-stirring article is obviously just a cry for hits.
Please people. There’s enough FACT to discuss in the world right now without creating drama.
And WHERE IS THE COVERAGE OF HURRICANE IKE RELIEF?? Not enough welfare folks down there for ya? Not enough looting or shooting to garner the attention of the national media???
What would one expect from the National-O Bama Corporation?
Funny that NBC is so worried about ethical and responsible broadcasting NOW. Everyone knows SNL is a parody show, and this skit was an exaggerated goof, trying to make light of a very very bad situaton. Yet they pulled the skit over fears that it misrepresent people.
Yet I recall just a few months ago, on their very serious, very “meant to be taken at face value” NBC Nightly News, they opened with a story trumpeting Manmade Global Warming as the cause of the Richardson Ice shelf breaking off of Antarctica. This despite multiple well known papers some from 10 YEARS AGO, predicting that OCEAN CURRENTS would cause the Richardson Ice Shelf to break off exactly when and how it ultimately did.
NBC is nothing more than a Liberal Mouthpiece. That they should ever claim that there is a shred of media integrity behind anything they do is a joke far bigger and funnier than anything that has ever been seen on SNL.
Funny how their journalistic integrity doesn’t prevent them from televising Presedential Debates. The Daughters of the American Revolution used to organize these debates. They quit and turned the whole ordeal over to a bipartisan committee after crumbling constant pressure from both parties to invoke measures to keep third parties out of the debates. Apparently they won’t televise anything that is an offense to people trying to serve themselves, but have no problem televising things that are an offense to our constitution and the political process.
Way to go NBC – You guy’s rock! NOT.
Edit one of the funniest skits you’ve run this season because you’re afraid you might offend the radical left – Once again, you’ve made it more than obvious who you’re beholden too.
Oh, and by the way – If your going to have Tina Fey on again this week reprising her Sara Palin role, the very LEAST you could do would be give her a credit before or after the show. I’ve noticed that you had not bothered to do so for the last 3 weeks.
Everybody saw it and those that didn’t will hear of it now. The Chickens are indeed coming home to roost.
“Upon review, we caught certain elements in the sketch that didn’t meet our standards.” NBC said it has edited out the chyron on-screen text, “People who should be shot” that appeared beneath the Sandler’ lookalikes, as well as the “allegations of corruption” made against the couple.
So, let me understand this, “lampooning” A couple (involved in the left wing Democracy Alliance) that was involved in fleecing people of their money is below SNL & NBC standards, but accusing Governor Palin’s husband of incest with his daughters is A-OK comedy for NBC….hmmmmm.
Scarpelli,
You are absolutely wrong about Libertarians being on the side of the left. The Libertarian party is nothing more than the only party still committed to true conservative Reagan republicanism. Secondly they have sued both parties multiple times for their coordinated attempts to keep them off ballots and out of debates.
Meanwhile all of the media hype about the perils of the mortgage crisis, bailout, and the path back to financial solvency come straight from the Libertarian party line. We have become a socialist government and both parties are complicit. The Libertarian party is the only party representing true constitutional principles in their platforms (income taxes and federalized banks are NOT mentioned in the constitution, but mentioned liberally in Stalin’s writings). They are exactly the party we need in to win this election. Bickering that one guilty party is better than the next is stupid. Believing that the Libertarians have any interest in EITHER party maintaining the status quo is retarded.
The Libertarian Party is poised to do all the things the average American can see needs to be done. The big sent AIG execs on a spa vacation. You need to check your facts pal. The only path back to righteousness is a vote for Bob Barr in ‘08.
Soros – one of the most evil men on the planet. This is a guy who profits from misery, who speculates andplots the downfall of currency. Not content to ruin world financial markets this guy has turned his sights on American culture, which he hates and has vowed to destroy for some twisted reason. The only good news is that’s he’s well past middle age, although these cock roaches have a tendency to live forever. Look how long it is taking the planet to be rid of that drunken murderer, Ted Kennedy! Kennedy and Soros – what a pair – the two men most responsible for the destruction of the American way of life. Can’t we send these people to China or Russia, and let them make everyone miserable over there?
How STUPID do they think we are to NOT SEE that the current situation was caused by REPUBLICANS??? REPUBLICANS have been in control of ALL THREE BRANCHES of the government for almost all of the LAST EIGHT YEARS. DEMOCRATS did not lead the House until LAST YEAR and the SENATE is still SPLIT BETWEEN 49 DEMOCRATS AND 49 REPUBLICANS. The FLAK being thrown up by McCain is such a bunch of lies it is astounding. He has been for DEREGULATION his ENTIRE CAREER, McCain’s DEREGULATION was at the heart of McCain’s KEATING FIVE SCANDAL and McCain’s SAVINGS AND LOAN DISASTER of 20 years ago. Now history is repeating itself because McCAIN’S CHIEF FINANCIAL ADVISOR PHIL GRAMM SPEARHEADED THE DEREGULATION THAT HAS CAUSED THE CURRENT CRISIS. Gramm is the same guy who says we are all ‘A NATION OF WHINERS’ because the economy is doing just fine.
Completely agree with Bone. Excellent point….they always bash the Right but never dish out the same to the Left it seems like to me anyway.(that’s not exactly what you said I know but, I think that’s what you were trying to hint at. If not, oh well that’s how I see it.)
That’s the left wing media for you. They’re all bias in my opinion.
NBC had to stop this. They want parody, not parity.
The video was pulled because it actually turned attention to the real culprits in the financial “crisis”. The Sandlers single-handly brought down Wachovia at a great profit and George Soros, the owner of the democrat party. SNL and NBC are only proving beyond a reasonable doubt that they are an operating arm of the Democrat party.
Has SNL been fair in its parodies? Some have pointed out that they made fun of Clinton a lot. True, but 99% of their Clinton skits have only made fun of his sexual appetite. Recently they’ve also poked at his ego. But they never mocked his intelligence. They never attacked his politics.
This skit continued their caricature of Bush as a complete airhead, even though they acknowledged that he had been the one to warn years ago of the current crisis. What made this sketch unique was that it demonstrated that the Dems are willing to lie for political gain, that they are sometimes aligned with powerful, unscrupulous people, and that the “victims” they are always championing are often anything but innocent.
The NB in NBC now stands for “No Balls.” Trash the Republicans not a problem; mildly spoof the Democrats and it is : ” head for the hills.”
FINALLY something funny on SNL
LIBS SUCK
Funny how the Dem-bashing skit was cut but not the Palin’s hubby is her baby-daddy skit. Interesting.
Classic indeed! And btw, the only reason they’ve invited Palin onto the show, given their constant ridicule of her, is that they know how popular she is and will most certainly bring in the ratings. We have long taken the mean-spirited, conservative-bashing skits in stride but the other side literally goes berserk when they are questioned in any way on the airwaves! So what do they do…censor them! The best revenge will be to bring a historic, landslide victory in November! Let’s get it done. In the meantime, I’ve lost total respect for SNL since they have now joined the ranks of the rest of the liberal hit-job shows out there, including Letterman, Olbermann, Matthews, O’Brien et al!! I swear, if the cable companies would just allow us carte blanche (sp?), I would not be supporting any of the liberal networks (that I don’t watch anyway!) with my monthly cable payments! Shame on NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC & CNN. Long live FOX News!!
My fellow Americans, where did our freedom of speech go?
Cute little “oversite” in the story. The Barney Frank character didn’t “immediately begin to complain” when Bush accussed dems, He interrupted Nancey Pelosi, who was complaining, and said “Actually This time he’s right”, to which Pelosi replied “shush he doesn’t know that”.
Whoops your bias is showing.
Interesting that NBC will pull a skit bashing Dems out of fear of reprisal, when they unmercifully continue to bash the Republicans without any fears….hummmm what does that say about the power of the campaigns and their supporters?
This is why I quit watching network television over a year ago and judging from the ratings I don’t think I’m the only one. Just curious… is Brian Williams still nightly news anchor?
It was about years ago when President Bush talked about the financial troubles on the horizon. I listened and got out of my 401k and stocks. I went to a simple savings account and then I SAVED. I doing fine because I listened to him. To the Bush bashers who don’t listen to anything all I have to say is … nyah, nyah
B said,
“While NBC’s ratings are low, MSNBC is doing very well.
Morning Joe’s viewer ship is up.
Olberman gets around 1.8 million a night.
Maddow is the number 1 new show and gets around 1.6 million viewers.
So don’t down MSNBC because they are nipping at FAUX News heels in the 24/7 news channel race.”
B, don’t know what to say to your post so I’ll just post stuff from the Nielson Ratings for October:
FOXN THE OREILLY FACTOR MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 1.9 1,759 2,253 475
FOXN HANNITY & COLMES MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 1.2 1,115 1,398 343
FOXN THE FOX REPORT W/S.SMITH MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 1.1 1,048 1,282 303
FOXN SPECIAL REPORTW/BRIT HUME MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 1.1 1,015 1,210 255
FOXN ON THE RECORD W/GRETA MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 1 955 1,159 312
FOXN THE OREILLY FACTOR (RPT) MTWTF__ 11:00P -12:00A 0.9 824 1,013 347
FOXN AMERICAS NEWSROOM MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.9 867 995 271
CNN LARRY KING LIVE MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.8 814 982 285
FOXN THE BIG STORY W/J GIBSON MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.8 780 897 188
FOXN FOX AND FRIENDS MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.8 797 876 314
FOXN STUDIO B W/S.SMITH MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.8 784 861 195
CNN LOU DOBBS TONIGHT MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.7 691 825 218
FOXN YOUR WORLD W/NEIL CAVUTO MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.8 713 801 174
FOXN FOX NEWS LIVE MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.8 711 786 202
FOXN LIVE DESK W/M.MACCALLUM MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.7 703 776 187
MSNB COUNTDOWN W/ K. OLBERMANN MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.6 586 710 240
CNN SITUATION ROOM MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.6 532 594 189
CNN ANDERSON COOPER 360 MTWTF__ 10:00P -12:00A 0.5 503 593 228
CNBC DEAL OR NO DEAL _T_T___ 06:00A -11:00P 0.4 366 553 200
CNN OUT IN THE OPEN MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.5 457 551 199
FOXN FOX & FRIENDS FIRST MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.5 488 524 219
CNN CNN NEWSROOM MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.5 475 519 178
MSNB MSNBC INVESTIGATES (RPT) __W_F__ 11:00P -12:00A 0.4 391 488 275
HLN NANCY GRACE MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.4 392 446 172
CNN CNNI YOUR WORLD TODAY MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.4 392 421 139
MSNB HARDBALL WITH C. MATTHEWS MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.4 358 412 121
MSNB MSNBC INVESTIGATES _TWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.4 325 408 201
MSNB LIVE WITH DAN ABRAMS MTWT___ 06:00A -11:00P 0.4 330 387 140
CNN AMERICAN MORNING MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.4 354 386 151
HLN GLENN BECK MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.3 311 366 141
CNBC SQUAWK ON THE STREET 1030 MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.3 316 358 100
CNBC SQUAWK ON THE STREET 10A MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.3 315 349 99
HLN SHOWBIZ TONIGHT MTWTF__ 11:00P -12:00A 0.3 313 349 147
CNBC CALL, THE MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.3 308 348 90
CNBC SQUAWK ON THE STREET 930A MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.3 311 336 94
CNBC STREET SIGNS MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.3 289 320 95
CNBC POWER LUNCH MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.3 279 313 94
CNBC CLOSING BELL MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.3 290 311 91
CNBC BIG MAC: INSIDE MCDONALDS M_W____ 06:00A -11:00P 0.2 237 296 114
CNBC SQUAWK ON THE STREET 9A MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.3 262 281 78
CNBC SQUAWK BOX 8:30A MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.2 235 258 66
MSNB TUCKER MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.2 218 242 79
CNBC KUDLOW & COMPANY MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.2 203 237 56
HLN ROBIN & COMPANY MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.2 205 223 109
CNBC SQUAWK BOX 8A MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.2 207 220 62
MSNB MORNING JOE MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.2 202 217 65
CNBC MAD MONEY MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.2 194 216 50
MSNB MSNBC LIVE MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.2 195 212 76
CNBC FAST MONEY MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.2 185 209 71
HLN CNN HEADLINE NEWS MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.2 181 208 78
HLN PRIME NEWS W/ ERICA HILL MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.2 170 191 70
CNBC SQUAWK BOX 7:30A MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.2 172 181 60
CNBC ON THE MONEY MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.2 154 172 40
CNBC BIG IDEA W/ DONNY DEUTSCH MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.1 133 166 75
CNBC SQUAWK BOX 7A MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.1 132 137 53
HLN LARRY KING LIVE MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.1 118 132 59
CNBC MAD MONEY (RPT) MTWTF__ 11:00P -12:00A 0.1 97 116 61
CNBC SQUAWK BOX 630A MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.1 89 93 41
CNBC SQUAWK BOX 6A MTWTF__ 06:00A -11:00P 0.1 56 59 29
MSNBC should be lumped in w/NBC.
just so you know…. before wachovia bought world savings, they did make many “exceptions” on loans to subprime borrowers. They were the only bank that would approve an option arm loan to a person with horrible credit. i worked in the industry and have seen it happen dozens of times. so dont try and think they were ethical at all. you pay subprime rates on pay options anyway. all you out there with 700+ ficos were idiots for getting sucked into that loan. time to rent!
wow–there are many comments on this board making terroristic threats. maybe you are members of this Alaska Independence Party, like the Palins and their riend Joe Vogler. to wit: “When the [federal] bureaucrats come after me, I suggest they wear red coats. They make better targets.” (in 1993, by the way, the Palin’s friend Joe Vogler solicited and got te support of Iran in making charges against the “tyrrany of America.”)
please, you racist freaks. your jim crow america is fading into the past like your patriotid hero strom thurmond (who left the democratic party, like all whie southerners did, becasue they were, as he proudly proclaimed, “the ni66er loving party.”
I loved the skit, but I’m not surprised that the “targets” were embarrassed and ashamed that their perfidy was disclosed. The left has never really been able to face up to their foibles — which is one of the reasons they try so hard to bring the mistakes of everyone else to light. Soros and the Sandlers are crooks — in a real world, they would be in prison and not in Barney Frank’s bed. Hey — Barney Frank would be in prison too. NBC caved to the left — which they’ve been doing ever since the 60’s — so what else is new?
It will be interesting to see if anyone gets to read this!!!
Taking it off you-tube after the fact feels like censorship. I can’t help feeling angry that this clip has been removed.
Funniest skit in ages. Sad, funny and so true!!
Hmmm, so it was OK to do the “Todd Palin sleeps with and impregnates his own daughter” skit without edits but a skit implying collusion between the Democrat (NOT “Democratic”) Party, the Sandlers, & George Soros/MoveOn.org required a “second look” because anyone who watched it could see “it was a lawsuit waiting to happen”?
My knee-jerk reaction was to give the SNL crew credit for trying to inject some objectivity into their satire. However, on colder reflection I am now more inclined to believe this was setup in advance, knowing the full skit would never truly see the light of day.
I suspect there is a lot more than meets the eye here. Under normal circustances, NBC would be protected under Times vs. Sullivan for a skit like this. This decision protects criticism of a publlic figures from libel suits unless their is intent of malice. There is no question but the Sandlers are public figures. But saying they “should be shot” could be construed as malice. Big time!
There is another question. Why in the dickens did NBC allow/encourage this anti democrat rant in the first place? It’s totally against their grain.
It probably has to do with the posssibility of the reimposition of the “fairness doctrine” under a democrat White House. When “fairness” was in effect, the rules required radio stations to follow burdensome rules to allow opposing points of view or risk losing their FCC license. It had a chilling effect on any political discourse and it wasn’t until it was repealed that political talk radio took off in 1988. Fairness would be aimed at radio where conservatives dominate, but it could also be aimed at TV, especially especially on non-network news segments.
Showing a history of allowing an opposing view would help the TV networks and their owned/affiliated stations avoid “fairness.” “Fairness” would be far more burdensome for TV than radio. Talk radio would simply jump to satellite or to cell phone podcasts which are non-broadcast, non-regulated communications. Broadcast TV has simply nowhere else to go.
CRA, Carter. Son of CRA, Clinton. Regulatory oversight, Frank and Dodd. Freddie and Fanny payoffs to Frank, Obama, Dodd, Pelosi, and a Democrat who’s who. Tried to stop the melt down, McCain. Who’s to blame? The Republicans. Yep, keep treating Americans as if they are stupid and, on Nov 4th, they will bite you on the ass!!
The truth really does hurt! It’s clear the Democrat party is the true “party of the rich”. Soros, Buffet, Gates – all leftist. Hopefully one day, Americans en masse, will realize this and seize thier freedoms back.
Uh… that’s not an edit version. It seems to e complete to me. Damn liberal reality.
This is along the same lines of what they did in 2001. Before the 2000 election, they three separate skits showing a presidential address the week after inauguration. Gore was reading a text book to America and asking for homework. Nader had solved all world problems and then a pig flew across the background. Bush was under his desk because the Oval Office was in disarray and the capital was on fire in the background. The Bush skit is no longer available as far as I know. On reruns it was not shown. Granted Sept 11th made a reality of how bad things could get, but I found it odd that it was pulled.
The Stalinist democrats got their panties in a wad and told SNL to pull the bit, along with the questions from the webforum. How dare the show make mock the members of Dear Leader’s party?! What’s next? Little kids singing Obama songs…uh, wait…that’s already happened.
I guess what I can’t get over is how “galvanized” everyone is over how “their party” appears to the american public. Get over it already people. There is no one out there on the political horizon that has the best interest of this country in mind. It’s all about them selves. If anybody is still looking to these clowns for answers (either Rep or Dem) you are seriously mis informed.
The only question I have is: How much further do the ratings need to go down, before the ‘major’ networks realize that no one is watching any more? I’m juat glad I have a job in which I work during prime time.
That’s all this is: a manufactured ‘crisis’ so that people will return to watch the dinosaurs die. I don’t waste my money on the filth and bias of cable/satellite television, either because even though the programming is better, and more varied, it’s still not good enough to throw my money at it.
While NBC’s ratings are low, MSNBC is doing very well.
Morning Joe’s viewer ship is up.
Olberman gets around 1.8 million a night.
Maddow is the number 1 new show and gets around 1.6 million viewers.
So don’t down MSNBC because they are nipping at FAUX News heels in the 24/7 news channel race.
Comment by B- — October 7, 2008 @ 7:16 pm
Fox crushes MSNBC everynight. And so does CNN. Both tripled MSNBCs ratings for the VP debate. MSNBC (and NBC) are a joke.
They also cut out the part in which the Sandlers say to Frank, “And thank you, Congressman Frank, as well as many Republicans for helping block Congressional oversight of our corrupt activities.”
To which Frank replies, “Not at all!”
I’m not sure why that was cut out.
It is funny how anything goes when it is against conservatives and Christian religion. However, all the free speech advocates cower in fear when the target is the left or Islam. A few years ago, an “art” eshibit that portrayed dung on the Virgin Mary was defended but when someone had the audacity to put the Prophet in a comic, it was quickly removed from s museum showing.
Anyone see the irony in the fact that lawsuits and threats of lawsuits stated the entire mortgage/credit crisis? Never leave home without your race card.
let me see-the commie left tries to prevent or demean the release of the movie “an american carol” because the movie tells the truth about its commie hero,michael the fat COMMIE moron. NOW,Snl dares to CRITICIZE RICH COMMIE AMERICA HATERS LIKE THE SANDLERS AND PIGSCUM SOROS,BUT NOOOOOO ,WE CANT HAVE THAT CAN WE? HEY NBC YOU YELLER COWARDS-HAS YOUR BOYS MATTHEWS AND KIETH THE UBERCOMMIE BEEN KISSING SOROS BACKSIDE ALL WEEK FOR THIS “OUTRAGE”? HOW DARE THEY DEMEAN COMMIE PIG SOROS. ILL DEMEAN SOROS AND I DONT NEED NBC OR SNL TO DO IT FOR ME. SOROS IS A PUNK. SO ARE HIS USELESS SYNCOPHATS THE SANDLERS.
Well I believe it’s time for SNL Lorne Micheals to now take the gloves off. Have his writers make fun of David Brock of Media Matters, a conservative at one time,why not poke some fun at him and Keith Oberman.Chris Mattews. This is America and SNL has every right to make parody the left. So what if the truth hurts. Censoring a skit isn’t getting one anywhere. It only gets the fans upset. But Lorne if you’re reading this poke some fun at David Brock and the left wing activist who stifle first admendment rights. Free Speech. Free Comedy. Just a crazy idea but crazy ideas are required in perilious times.
You must be kidding. Everyone knows that NBC and its little brother MSNBC have become propaganda outlets and tools of the American Left and the Democrats. They make no bones about it and many, many people do not watch their news programs anymore. Of course they censored the SNL program, because it was not hammering conservatives or Republicans but telling the truth about the giant loan scandal and how the democrats created this mess.
Would love to see an SNL skit this week about what NBC did with the editing and removing forum posts – that would be excellent to watch.
So when they accused Palins husband of incest, did they pull that down? Come on! I use to laugh uproariously at the way they skewered republicans especially Bush senior, but when they couldn’t bring themselves to do the same to Bill Clinton is when I lost all respect for SNL. I can take a joke, but it makes me very angry when the bastards can’t do it to everyone equally. THEY are the humorless ones.
I can understand not wanting to encourage loons who might actually shoot someone but this is a comedy satire program after all so, it does appear as if the “fairness doctrine” has once again ruled its head-which means the left gets to beat up on conservatives, allow their phobia of Christians to run wild, unabated, and censor anyone who does not agree with their ideology. These are your so-called “free-thinkers” folks. Heheheheh.
Worthless Hollywood and the Media as far as I’m concerened are as Un-American as Communism; oh, wait that’s Hollywood, the media, and the Democratic party!
Personally, they all can kiss my A**. I love my President, my country, my brothers in arms, and our traditions. I will not apologize for it, ever! For all of you out their that hate who we are and what we were founded on; namely, Hollywood and media please take your s*** and move to the mearest communist country of your choice becuase you sure as hell don’t belong here!
I wonder which candidate the lawyers and NBC executives will vote for?
All is fair, as long as it is against the other team. If politics was a sport and the media was the referee, the fans of one team (The Republicans) would revolt. As Americans, the people (Fans) of the other team also owns part of the airwaves you broadcast on. You should be ashamed of yourselves for pretending you can imitate Superman. Clark Kent would run in to a phone booth and emerge as Superman. You think you can enter a studio, apply makeup, clothe yourself in an expensive dress or suit and tie (Which probably costs more then most folks make in a week/month/year), and emerge as the super hero of no political opinion. Since we know Superman was just a comic, you probably can’t just change like that in real life. If I’m discussing news or current events I don’t mind disclosing which point of view I’m coming from, they know who I am all they know you as is Mr/Mrs/Ms no opinion. O-Bama says we need Regulation acountability and imprisonment. In the medias eyes there are two powers to condend with, the one you always agree with, cover for and follow. The other is always the one you seek fault in, which gives you the oportunity to flaunt your skills at investigative reporting. You treat as a God/Devil thing and want to save the nation from Satan (The Republicans better yet the conservitives) This SNL thing comes as no surprise. Thank God, god is watching out for me!
>>WorldMortgageHolder — October 7, 2008 2:39 PM: “A little fact-checking never got in the way of the Right Wing . . .”<<
And amassing votes from the homeless AND THE FUCKING DEAD never got in the way of a Democrat when it comes to getting votes either. Funny how the news of the Obama affilited Acorn offices (which got raided by the authorities for voter fraud yesterday) didn’t gain any traction in the mainstream press which was too busy slurping to actually be, you know, journalists and report the shocking facts.
Wow, conservatives sure are delusional. The comments in here are insanely paranoid. And it’s hilarious that you think a company owned by military-industrial giant General Electric can be corrupted by “liberal” ideas. And they say conservatives aren’t funny!
Just like an apparatchik, to use the legal system to silence views that you don’t agree with…
So if I understand this correctly you can lie, slander and denigrate republicans and conservatives. But you can’t tell the truth about liberals or they will cry and sue? Something smells like the CBS reporter claims the Barrack Airmobile does. I say grow some gonads girlymen!
Teemail said: “I just have to ask this “Bailout Skit” didn’t meet the standards of NBC/SNL but accusing Mr. Pailin of incest does? In those famous words of Led Zepplin… “oooohhh it makes me wonder???””
RIGHT ON!!
Kelly said: “So when they accused Palins husband of incest, did they pull that down? Come on! I use to laugh uproariously at the way they skewered republicans especially Bush senior, but when they couldn’t bring themselves to do the same to Bill Clinton is when I lost all respect for SNL. I can take a joke, but it makes me very angry when the bastards can’t do it to everyone equally. THEY are the humorless ones.”
And the best part is, the Bushes had Dana Carvey over at the White House after one of his skits. Now, they’re good friends. Carvey said, Bush Sr. treated him a grandson. He was moved.
Shows you class at work. Too bad the Left can’t understand that concept.
I was amazed when Saturday Night Live ran that. The major news networks are keeping very quite about Soros and his international ambitions and the culpability of the Progressive Democratic party in the current economic colapse.
I think the only conspiracy is the one that keeps the lousy, half-assed, unfunny SNL on the air years and years, and years, past its expiration date.
And a person has to be a real loser and truly hard-up, and certainly desperately bored, to be sitting home on Saturday evenings after 11:30 pm watching SNL.
I can definitely tell you that the “facts” about the Sandlers are complete crap! I worked at World for 6 years and I left after Wachovia bought them. World never securitized their loans, and so they were never part of the credit swap crap that all of the other banks have done. We in fact turned away a lot of business because we had our own appraisers and we kept all of our loans because we believed in our underwriting capabilities. We also did not do sub-prime loans or the large jumbo loans that all of the competition jumped at. The Sandlers were very conservative in how they ran the corporation and the risks that World took. They did not jump at every get rich scheme. It’s a shame that many of these posts automatically assume that they are guilty when most of you know nothing about the Sandlers or the company that they ran. Get your facts straight before bash someone. It’s something NBC should have done before airing the skit.
Satire is protected speech, but making a threat of violence against an individual is not. NBC was being prudent. Oddly enough, one can make a threat against a group of people (”Kill all idiots”) and, arguably, it’s protected speech under the First Amendment, but if you say “Kill idiot John Doe” it’s actionable.
Case law:
Hustler Magazine, Inc. v. Falwell, 485 U.S. 46 (1988), the United States Supreme Court held, in a unanimous 8-0 decision (Justice Kennedy took no part in the consideration or decision of the case), that the First Amendment’s free-speech guarantee prohibits awarding damages to public figures to compensate for emotional distress intentionally inflicted upon them.
No legal action can be taken.
So it is ok to make Palin look like a twat, but God forbid that they do it to the Dems.
In the interest of fairness 527’s are not a strictly liberal phenomenon. 527’s represent both sides of the political aisle. The most notable 527 of the 2004 election was the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth. Wikipedia also lists other conservative 527’s such as College Republican National Committee and Progress for America. To use the existence of liberal 527’s as an indication of Democratic Party malfeasance in an election is both disingenuous and misleading.
It seems they have no worries about being sued by the right. President Bush and Sarah Palin would have very good cases if NBC wants to worry. It seems only the intolerant left, who have no sense of humor, and can’t stand for the truth to be told about them are the ones who threaten and cannot take the truth of the joke. Crybabies! They don’t mind to slime anyone on the right, witness the comments made by Pelosi etal., about President Bush, to the depths of name calling (childish), when in reality, that woman can’t put a complete thought together. I was shocked NBC actually ran a skit putting the truth together in the first place.
So if someone shot these two yahoo’s then NBC MAY be liable as they had a little banner saying “They should be shot”. Yeah, I think the legal team did the right thing.
All the other rambling done on here is just sour grapes. NBC did the right thing by removing that banner, and it appears that is all they removed.
I would love to see an SNL skit poking more satire at George Soros and David Brock over the pulling unedited skit off the web too. But add Yoda and Darth Vader in the mix becouse they were offended too.
Had it been a skit about Republicans or blaming the Republicans while not mentioning the Democrats at all then this would have stayed like Mount Everest until the end of the world. NBC is just the most biased and Democratic leaning network that they can’t be trusted. It actually was quite a funny and accurate skit and sadly those that are responsible will never see punitive actions or suffer loss in their elections. Only the public and normal people will suffer loss on this one.
To back up a previous comment I saw, this is all about the mony and always is “Always follow the money’. NBC is not concerned about conservative backlash at all in any of their skits, but rather losing the revenue potentially from Hollywood leftists and the super rich NY bankers, who control this and just about everything else you see and hear in this world. Time to wake up out there and see this for what it is……….you are being manipulated and controlled. THINK FOR YOURSELVES
I don’t see why NBC should have taken in down or edited it. SNL has slandered plenty of people in it’s years on air. I thought it was funny…stop taking SNL so seriously.
Here’s more reason to worry if the media-appointed Messiah Nobama becomes president thanks to people being pressured to register and vote 15 times for the Messiah (as one pizza delivery guy was according to the NY Post):
A woman on the radio today spoke of a Nobama supporter who called her house and tried to pressure her into voting for Nobama. The woman refused, saying that Nobama being pro infanticide made her sick and would never vote for someone who pushed such a thing. What happened? The secret service arrived at the poor woman’s door and proceeded to question and threaten her supposedly because said woman made a “death threat” which wasn’t true at all. She had merely said she wouldn’t vote for someone who believes in partial birth abortion before hanging up the phone. Needless to say, it was a terrifying experience and kudos to the woman for being brave enough to expose Nobama’s desire to silence dissent.
If Nobama forces himself to become president by having people register and vote multiple times, expect more of the same. I shudder at the thought as any real American should.
Still disappointed that Nikki considers this disgraceful episode ’solved’. Oh if only SNL had been in the tank for the studios v the writers union instead of for the dems v the repubs…….imagine the investigative energies squandered.
Nikki, I really think you should disable the comments option for any political hot topic you cover, or monitor the trolls who come through the Drudge links.
The amount of hatred and slandering thrown by visitors from both political sides is getting tired and taking up space.
People, it’s a parody for goodness sake. Show a sense of humor, would you? The removal/editing of the skit is pointless. I’m all for equal opportunity mockery.
Last night on the O’Reilly Factor, Bill complemented Saturday Night Like for the pointless skit which some expressed above. But thanks to that Skit I might add on wouldn’t known about the Sandlers selling thier bank to Wachovia. Nor the fact they were involved with Subprime mortgages. Bill O’Reilly blasted NBC for it treatment of taking the skit down from thier website. By the way the Sandlers are living comfortably in San Fransisco,California. Bill pointed that out.
Censorship rules. I am VERY disappointed in SNL for pandering and pulling the skit.
Hey, Reality Checker, cut back on the hallucinogenics. What these executives did, including Obama’s pal Franklin Raines, was AGAINST reglations.Obama and Barney Frank et al were supposed to catch them, not profit from them. The problem is not deregulation as you have been brainwashed to say, the probelm is CORRUPTION. Obama complains about the AIG spa outing (as he should), but doesn’t say a word about why he doesn’t ask Raines to give back the 90 million he only received because he cooked the books. He should be prosecuted. Where’s Obama’s outrage ?
Look at this way: SNL did a public service by exposing the Sandlers. Wachovia inherited thier securitized subpirme mortgages which are the real root cause for the problem in first place. Now Wachovia maybe selling to Wells Fargo and Citigroup to protect its own assets.
They finally do a truthful funny sketch ripping the real ones behind all these bailouts and they edit it???
Jesus.
The comments in this thread are utterly amazing. I had not realized the extent to which the wingnut “media” had brainwashed Americans, and how much peoples’ worldview is dictated by demagogues like Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly and worse. The lack of perspective alone is stunning, never mind the substance of these fanatical, paranoid rants.
The right wing has let a genie out of the bottle with its constant and deliberate incitement of hatred and and its incessant rabble-rousing and yellow journalism. All the above because someone thought “People who deserve to be shot” crossed a line? Whew. The “reasonable American” appears to be a species fast becoming extinct.
My problem is not that you people are now getting what you deserve, reaping the economic and foreign policy consequences of the government you chose and the leadership you prefer, but that *I* have had to suffer, for eight long years now, for what *you* desire and deserve….
I hope America wakes up before it is too late.
Stay off my lawn..!! so you believe in Obama’s Redistribution of wealth..? On the democrats policy that everyone should own a home, its a right… not something earned through hard work…?? You must be on wellfare.. how many kids of your ’s is the Gov’y(woops i mean .. Taxpayer) supporting??