Oscar ballots go out today from the Academy Of Motion Picture Arts And Sciences to its 5,810 members and are due back on January 12th. Nominations will be announced January 22nd with the Academy Awards telecast held February 22nd. I know people love to endlessly speculate about who's going to get nominated, and who might win, but I must say this year's Oscars is shaping up as rather suspense-less. According to my AMPAS voter gurus who constantly talk to other Academy members, consensus already is forming around Fox Searchlight's Slumdog Millionaire for Best Picture. Also, I don't know why opinion is focusing on Cate Blanchett in The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button over, say, Meryl Streep in Doubt for Best Actress. And Heath Ledger in The Dark Knight for Best Supporting Actor is considered a lock.
I'm told by Academy members that David Fincher would have a better shot at Best Director for Benjamin Button if only he wasn't considered such a jerk (yes, that factors in unless a pic is the absolute frontrunner), so Slumdog's Danny Boyle is the favorite. Which means the only real mystery surrounding the Oscars is the Best Actor category with Sean Penn for Milk, Frank Langella for Frost/Nixon, Clint Eastwood for Gran Torino, and Mickey Rourke for The Wrestler all seen as having an equal chance to win. My insiders say Langella may have the edge right now among the older voters, and Penn with younger voters, but Rourke is also starting to be singled out. It's too early to speculate on other categories since the vast majority of Oscar voters don't even start screening most DVDs until after Christmas. I just hope Academy members throw some major category nominations to the year's more popular pics so it's not a repeat of the last Oscars where mostly grim little-seen films were rewarded -- and, for that reason and others having to do with yet another lousy telecast, ratings were the worst since Nielsen started tracking them in 1974.
Oscar Ballots Mailed: Are Best Picture And Other Major Categories Already Decided?


I saw Slumdog Millionaire yesterday and I was BLOWN AWAY. I got choked up a few times through the movie. What a wonderful, splendid movie.
somebody give Danny Boyle an Oscar NOW!!!
“I’m told that David Fincher would have a better shot at Best Director for Benjamin Button if only he wasn’t seen as such a jerk”
Since when are awards handed out based on how nice somebody is? If this were the case, almost nobody would ever win, as most good directors are pricks anyway.
Proof that these “awards” are a complete joke and I’m glad viewership is down, as that’s what the public is finally waking up to.
Anne Hathaway in Rachel Getting Married was far superior to Cate Blanchett. Nothing against Curious Case at all, but Cate Blanchett’s role here is nothing as intense or demanding as her other recent performances (e.g., Notes On a Scandal, Babel) and certainly does not stack up against Hathaway’s.
Whatever u may think personally of him, Mickey Rourke’s IS the best performance of the year. I’ve seen it 3 times now: subtle, insightful and not a FALSE note played. While the others are good, I felt Penn at times was ‘acting’ and Langella simply didn’t show enough range with the character given.
If the Academy had the balls to give someone like Rourke the Oscar, I just might believe in them again.
I’m gonna make a prediction right now. MILK will win best picture.
I agree. Rourke should win best actor. No question.
“Slumdog Millionaire” for best pic? Booo…!
I’m surprised “Che” isn’t getting much attention at all – not even for Benicio as “Best Actor.”
Clint Eastwood shouldn’t even be nominated in that category (Best Actor)for Grand Torino. Give me a break! There are more deserving performances.
MILK for Picture
D. BOYLE for Director
SEAN PENN for Actor
MERYLL STREEP for Actress
VIOLA DAVIS for Supporting Actress
HEATH LEDGER for Supporting Actor
BENJAMIN BUTTON for Cinematography
Others TBD…
Nikki, if they’ll give the Best Director Oscar to James Cameron, they’ll give it to anybody! Fincher is more benign than Ron Howard in terms of temperment compared to JC. Fincher always seems like a really pleasant guy in interviews and stuff so maybe this reputation he has for being an exacting tyrant on-set has been stirred up by people he’s worked with who didn’t like being subjected to hundreds of takes to appease his rigid specificity. For the record I thought Benjamin Button was somewhat problematic but still a very good film that I would be happy to see win several top honors at next February’s Oscar telecast.
Sean Penn was fantastic in Milk but the film surrounding the performance perhaps wasn’t good enough to warrant another victory for him so relatively soon after Mystic River. I’m not alone in saying that I don’t think the voters will be able to resist seeing Rourke’s comeback story come to full fruition by having him wind up at the Oscar podium. What a long, strange journey it’s been for him throughout his career. However, it would be foolish to count out dues-paying guys like Langella, Pitt or Dicaprio, all of whom the voters would love to reward. Eastwood could also have a sentimentality factor on his side since he’s been around forever without prevailing in this category. From afar this definitely seems like the juiciest race of the field…all the other categories may become afterthoughts.
Milk is a great, great film. Penn or Pitt for best actor. Streep or Hathaway for best actress. Winslet best supporting actress. Ledger best supporting actor. Slumdog or Milk for best movie and their director will also win.
I thought Ledger and Downey Jr gave the years best performances…that was until I saw the Wrestler. If there’s justice in the world Mickey Rourke should take the gold. End of story. His performance was as good as anything Marlon Brando or Meryl Streep have done in their entire careers. It really is all that and then some.
Uttering the words BENJAMIN BUTTON and OSCAR in the same breath is a joke… Brad and Cate on screen were cold fish… hell Tilda deserves the award over Cate, and even she wasn’t that good.
FROST/NIXON is where it’s at.. Ron Howard ya done good.
And DOUBT should be a front runner too…
SLUMDOG was good but it wasn’t all that…
How about THE DARK KNIGHT for best picture? Or WALL-E?
Why is the Academy so focused on making itself increasingly irrelevant by systematically ignoring great films that actually reach a wide audience?
Slumdog’s second half was quite average and perhaps even formulaic. Overall it felt like the feelgood version of City of God.
Just for banter, but OSCARS are nothing more than another film critic group award as the Academy bends over and select the favorite consensus of film critics as to what is best of the year and the reason more times than not we wind up with “tripe”, films that are message loaded, boring and talky and preachy and whatever else Liberals filmmakers like to do that has nothing to do with entertainment. On the other hand I suppose some would call these films entertaining. I am always amazed that the majority of the time the pics that come out just a couple of weeks before the qualifying deadline are almost and with few exception always considered the best of the year. I suppose this cements the thought that the studio know beforehand all the “crap” they dish out to the masses during the year. I suppose also that just maybe we shouldn’t go to the movies until two weeks before the Academy qualifying deadline so that we can show the Academy, we the public, are also sophisticated enough to know what is best. Maybe I am just all wrong in this thinking but it sure seems this way when OSCAR time comes around.
Fincher is fine to deal with. All the bad press about him was generated from inside Paramount to distance themselves from him and the movie in case it tanked. (It DOES have to make a lot of money to show profit)
I just saw Gran Torino and Eastwood is a joke..literally growling in the film like a dog when he’s angry.
I’m sad IFC has no money to buy ads to support Benecio’s fine performance in ‘Che.’ He did win in Cannes for his performance, but since they don’t have the money to take out ads in the trades, the trades never mention him on their lists. love hollywood!
Mickey Roarke was indeed good in the Wrestler, but the film itself is handily this years most over-rated.
Hmmm…a note to all the people who think “Che” is being passed by for recognition, gosh could it possibly be because Che Guevara was a cold-blooded murderer who routinely had innocent people executed? Maybe because it’s sort of like making a sympathetic film about Hitler? Hmm….
Regarding DARK KNIGHT. I really didn’t think it was all that and a bag of chips. I thought it was about 15-20 minutes too long. I thought Iron Man was a much tighter screenplay and a better film in terms of pacing and pay-off.
If you take out the Ledger tragedy, the B.O. would have been less.
Not a Best Picture film in my books. A good film, but not great.
Well said Cathy. 2nd half of SLUMDOG does not hold up – it’s a gimmick. The film is not even among my 10 best of the year.
Here are my guesstimations:
PICTURE:
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Slumdog Millionaire
The Dark Knight
Doubt
Frost/Nixon
ACTOR:
Frank Langella
Mickey Rourke
Sean Penn
Richard Jenkins
Clint Eastwood
ACTRESS:
Meryl Streep
Cate Blanchett
Melissa Leo
Anne Hathaway
Sally Hawkins
“The Dark Knight” has to be in the mix for Best Picture (and a surprising number of other categories) because of the ratings (70% decline over the last ten years) issue they’re with the TV bradcast, the revenues of which basically underwrite all of AMPAS.
Fuck, Hugh Jackman should just walk out dressed as Wolverine in full leathers to open the show. Pandering to the comic book dork audience just might be a way to young-up the numbers.
As for Slumdog, I know a lot of people who see right through its sentimentality and predictability. But Danny Boyle is really emerging a true A-Lister so I see the reasoning behind his front-runner status.
You will know “Dark Knight” has real deep support if Aaron Eckhart is nominated for Best Supporting actor along with Heath.
But Warner Bros should have gone for it and Run Heath as a lead. He had a load of screentime — certainly more than Anthony Hopkins did in ‘Silence of the Lambs”
I don’t understand why Seven Pounds is not in contention. The title’s cumbersom. The marketing for it was lousy and that’s why a lot of people are not seeing it. But, the Oscar voting usually does not reflect the feelings of audience members anyway. However, even as a jaded veteran Hollywood writer, I was so emotionally wrapped up and invested in the outcome of Seven Pounds whereas Benjamin Buttons was visually beautiful, but emotionally vacant. Both the writer and Will Smith deserve Oscars. Don’t you agree Nikke
Slumdog Millionaire should win best picture, especially over Milk which was basically just another soapbox film.
Milk will win. Academy voters will feel marginally better showing solidarity with the Gays than with a formulaic low-budget-er from an exotic locale. Sure, no one really likes Milk (beyond its target aud), and it’s a failure of the most depressing kind (ie: artistic AND commercial), but what does anyone like in Slumdog beyond the kid falling in shit and the credit sequence?
As for Frank Langella, if nothing else his nom will replace “worst nomination since Billy Bob Thornton in Sling Blade” as a conversational reference point. Too bad you have to sit through Frost/Nixon to get it.
The Directing Award is for Fincher to steal
I’m think Rourke will keep Pitt off the noms list for Best Actor.
I agree with “John Denver” regarding Slumdog. It was good; I just don’t feel it should get best movie. I think the Dark Knight holds up as a better movie front to finish. don’t get me wrong, Slumdog was beautiful and the setting was amazing… but I agree with “Cathy” that the beginning was great– the end, not so much. It reminded me a lot of the Kite Runner in that sense.
To Cathy–
I’m not saying Che wasn’t a murderer…(for that matter, did anyone care that Forrest Whitaker won for playing Idi Amin a few years ago?)
I’ve just seen many of the films this year and Benecio was amazing.
Your telling me Luke Goss as Princes Nuada in Hellboy II; is not even on the list for best supporting actor. The old tired star are nominated every year and that is why viewership is down for Oscars. It is fixed and people who actually see movies have known this for years, we do not wast there times watching the buddies gather around and slap each other on the back for voting for their drinking buddies.
Mickey Rourke gives a haunting performance that cuts through
all the other. I hope he will be judged on that and not his popularity
in Hollywood.
Specific nominee predictions
PICTURE
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Slumdog Millionaire
Milk ****
Doubt
Frost/Nixon
ACTOR
Frank Langella (Frost/Nixon) ****
Brad Pitt (Benjamin Button)
Sean Penn (Milk)
Mickey Rourke (The Wrestler)
Clint Eastwood (Gran Torino)
DIRECTOR
John Patrick Shanley (Doubt)
David Fincher (Benjamin Button)
Danny Boyle (Slumdog Millionaire) ***
Gus Van Sant (Milk)
Ron Howard (Frost/Nixon)
ACTRESS
Kate Winslet (Revolutionary Road)
Meryl Streep (Doubt) ***
Kristin Scott Thomas (I’ve Loved You So Long)
Cate Blanchett (Benjamin Button)
Melissa Leo (Frozen River)
SUPPORTING ACTOR
Philip Seymour Hoffman (Doubt)
Heath Ledger (Batman)***
—Tough to decide on other nominees —
SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Viola Davis (Doubt)***
Amy Adams (Doubt) –Tough to decide on other nominees–
I sincerely hope Meryl Streep does not win an Oscar for Doubt…I found her performance over the top campy (and not i a good way)…I actually thought she was the worst part of the movie. With that said, I don’t think Cate Blanchett is a happy alternative…I’d be happier with Kate Winslet, or even Anne Hathaway.
It’s too bad that Kristin Scott Thomas isn’t getting much press for I’ve Loved You So Long … her performance is the one that sticks out in my mind most this year.
As far as best pic, I’d be happy with Slumdog Millionaire…it has it’s flaws (although it seems that this year, even more than others, all the front runners have sore-thumb flaws). What I appreciate about Slumdog is it manages to be uplifting without being your usual hollywood shlock…it seems that the indie (or indie-esque) movies are usually depressing while the happier movies are mainstream crappola..and Slumdog has avoided this.
I agree with those above who are happy for Clint Eastwood and Sean Penn to be ignored.
I guess Revolutionary Road is shaping up to be a total miss?
Shocking that two films…both political..one knocking Nixon the republican and the second honoring the gay liberal Milk are expected to be involved in the rewards.
Why don’t they give an honorary Oscar to Caroline Kennedy?
Milk. MILK? for any kind of award? A gay guy gets shot years ago in San Fran. Yup if not for the gay angle it would be nowhere. As far as Penn he is an ahole. but he is a Hollyweird ahole perfect for an award LOL…
Best Picture – Slumdog Millionaire
Best Director – Danny Boyle
Best Adapted Screenplay – Slumdog Millionaire
Best Score – Slumdog Millianaire
Best Actor – Mickey Rourke
Best Actress – Meryl Streep
Best Supporting Actor – Heath Ledger
Best Supporting Actree – Marissa Tomei
BUTTON
FINCHER
ROURKE
STREEP
So wait, they already know who is going to win? Then why send out ballots?
It will be a crime against film if Dark Knight is not at least nominated for best pic and if Nolan isn’t nominated for Best Director.
Original Joe, why does a film get degraded from “great” to “good” because it’s 15 minutes too long?
I get the feeling that it’s gonna get glossed over just because it’s Batman. Never mind the fact that is was a morality play as well as a Shakespearean-type tragedy that was prefectly executed by Nolan. I mean, if all the Academy cares about are artsy, preachy movies that only get watched by people who get paid to wattch them, then they should still be cool with TDK because it was thought-provoking AND a popcorn entertainment flick.
I’m obviously not in the same crowd as you all. I have no desire to even see the movies you’re discussing here.
I say Mamma Mia! for everything.
Who should win?
Best Picture – Slumdog Millionaire – “movie heaven”
Best Director – Danny Boyle
Best Actor – Mickey Rourke
Best Actress – Meryl Streep
Best Sup Actor- Heath Ledger
Best Sup Actreess- Marissa Tomei
Best Score – Slumdog Millionaire
Best Cinemotography – Dark Knight
Best Adapted Screenplay – Slumdog Millionaire
Best Editing – Slumdog Millionaire
Sean Penn should definitely win for Best Actor this year. MILK was one of the best movies I have seen all year and everyone in the theatre clapped at the end of the movie. Doubt was also a good movie but MILK was better.
I hope Tara is kidding about the actor from Hellboy 2 deserving a nomination… though there is some truth about the average viewer preferring to see the most deserving actors/actresses/directors nominated every year rather than the ones Hollywood feels are due.
Sometimes I feel like maybe I am zigging when the Zeitgeist is zagging. Slumdog Millionaire was a perfectly good little movie, but all the breathless critical orgasms about it are a mystery to me. I think the film is wildly overrated.
now Shawn, why so catty??? 2008 not your best year?? an Oscar for Caroline??? – however, mother Jackie, hands down Lifetime Achievement Award…
Ugh. Can you sad, right-wing brain-drains please disappear? What do you guys hope to accomplish by posting your semi-literate, misinformed, propaganda induced Pavlovian ravings? We know you’re linked here by drudge or other big $ propagandists. We think you’re idiots and representative of a pathetic fringe. If you think you will influence the “industry” by posting here you are not just stupid, but comically self-aggrandizing. Please die as a Christmas present to me.
Frank,
You’re right, conservatives should just go away. They obviously don’t go to the movies. It’s funny, but all the movies that are up for nomination will be commercial flops. Why? Because no one wants to see them. Milk + flop, Doubt = flop, Slum Dog Millionaire = flop. Look at all the anti-war movies, all flops.
Silly me, Slumdog was a smash hit, it made over 300 million world wide.
TheaterFan, A movie gets downsized, in my opinion, from great to good, because the script isn’t tight. When I say it is too long, I’m not referring to the running time, but the structure of the story.
To me, the script should have ended sooner but Nolan seemed so pleased with himself, he decided to keep going past it’s logical ending. It isn’t a tight script. To me, that means it isn’t a great film.
I think The Dark Knight is a lock for Best Picture.
Remember that all 3 Lord of the Rings films were nominated. A nomination for The Dark Knight would be the academy’s way of recognizing the huge impact comic book movies have made over the past 10 years.
That, plus the ratings it would bring in, make it a lock.
I was astounded by “The Dark Knight” After so many attempts to capture the pathos and emotion of graphic novels (O.K. – comic books) over the last few decades, I absolutely defy anyone to show me one that was done better. As a 55 year old I have enjoyed many of them, from such diverse performances as Robin Williams in “Popeye” to Christopher Reeves in Superman, or Downey Jr. in Ironman, but none of them have been as true to the original portrayal of the characters or had as much emotional punch as they were able to attain in Dark Knight. Having said that, the only fault aside from a few minutes of extra length is that the Batman character was almost pushed into the background, despite Bales great acting, by the truly astonishing performance of Heath Ledger. I feel certain that he absolutely would have been nominated, and won, even without the tragedy that befell him. What a great motion picture, and such a tour de force of Ledger to portray a sort of kaleidoscopic cartoon like character who is nonetheless genuinely scary on a level that can only be found in the darkest prisons around the world. An evil figure with a huge intellect that makes the silly Lex Luthor look like Paris Hilton. Come on folks, don’t forget the Dark Knight just because it’s been so long since it came out! Watch it again for all the marvels and magic that journeyman filmmaking coupled with great acting can achieve. “Rosebud……”
Rosemary DeWitt was better than Hathaway in RGM. She deserves a nod. But Viola Davis deserves to win. She was incredible opposite Streep in a gut wrenching scene. Penn is a lock for actor, Rourke second. Slumdog although a very good film, is overrated. The Bollywood dance ending felt tacked on to me. Wall E deserves to be in one of the 5 best pic noms, if not the winner. The lead actress category is not strong this year. I could see Winslet acting in a couple scenes i in Rev. Rd. Streep was over the top just a faint bit but I bought it and thought she made the movie. Just announce Heath as the Supp. Actor winner already. No one else even compares in that category.
As a voting member of the Academy I strongly refute the notion that I would be influenced by someone being considered “a jerk” when voting for a nominee in a category.
I thought I would hate “Benjamin Button” — I’ve never bought into the whole Cate Blanchett love-in and Pitt for the most part sucks — but it was wonderful. And the photography was some of the best I’ve ever seen. I love Fincher and, after “Zodiac, ” he is on a roll. He deserves “Best Director.” He should have won for “Fight Club” but the Academy wouldn’t have dared.
Streep is AWFUL in “Doubt.” Give me a break. Anyone who says otherwise is a pretentious, Cherry Jones hating asshole.
The Academy will want to give “The Dark Knight” something — too bad Heath Ledger had to die to finally win. He gave the best performance of the year in any category. Amazing.
Best Actor should go to Penn but Langella will win. Ditto Hathaway over Sally Hawkins. Kate Winslet gets shut out again! What does the girl have to do?
Can you say predictable and boring? I’m sure 2008 had more to offer than some less than exciting recent releases (seeing REVOLUTIONARY ROAD is only a bit more fun than reading its bland screenplay, as it turned out)
WALL-E was the movie that made me go WOW this year. It’s sad to see that newest releases get all the attention, even if they aren’t all that. Like SLUMDOG, which is nothing special. Very mainstream and feel-goody. *Before* its release it already got hyped up in cyberspace… What’s up with that?
MILK is good but left me wanting a bit more depth. Loved SEAN PENN, though.
If MERYL STREEP deserves a nom, then it’s for MAMMA MIA! She rocked the house in that one. Speaking of MM! – in my heart, JULIE WALTERS for supporting actress.
Are we saying that in retrospect IRON MAN wasn’t the movie that had us in stitches? That’s quite an accomplishment. It’s incomprehensible to me that ROBERT DOWNEY JR. got *nominated* only once for an Oscar and lost. He’s one of the best actors we have around in my book. He’s also the reason why I watched TROPIC THUNDER (certainly not Ben Stiller).
On the topic of funny: I guess it was too hard to figure out just how smart, how accurate (re: immigrant experience), funny and how politically correct (a plus in my book) YOU DON’T MESS WITH THE ZOHAN really was. I guess he should have remade Rainer Werner Fassbinder’s Ali: Fear Eats the Soul instead.
I’m surprised that no one has mentiond who I think is far and away the one to beat for this years Best Actress honors. And that is Angelina Jolie for “Changeling”.
My vote for best supporting actor goes to Clyde the dog in Marley and Me. Meryl Streep? No. Just NO. It is virtually impossible to suspend disbelief when she is on the screen in any movie. She inserts too much of herself into every role she plays. Jennifer Aniston, on the other hand, comes across as totally real in Marley and Me.
It is a rare occurence when I can sit through a movie without thinking it was 15-20 minutes too long, and I DO think that matters. Yes, it does. A minute here, a minute there, pretty soon they add up to too many minutes. To me, it’s the mark of a great movie when I can’t find those 15-20 minutes that should have been left on the cutting room floor.
Hahaha, imagine that, Milk for best picture and the actor portraying the openly gay SF politician for best actor.
They will both win, as both a stick in the eye to Prop 8 voters and also as a way forbmembers of the academy want to make sure that civillians understand how important it is for Hollywould to express its political opinion and that celebrity should not bear the yoke of silence in the wake of grave social injustice!!!!!
Haha, you wait. That is EXACTLY how these self important academy blowhards think and that is exactly how they will act.
Generally you can expect that the movies that are the most anti-establishment, anti-conservative, anti-war, or supporting a non-traditional lifestyle win and does not usually represent the best movies. Most remember Jane Fonda winning several awards in ‘average’ movies at best, during her objection to the Vietnam war. With a few exceptions, its been that way ever since.
I stopped watching the Academy Awards years ago When it became clear to me that it was just another liberal mouth piece and I assume that I’m not alone in this thinking as the shows numbers continue to tank.
GM: shut up. You’re not a voting member of the Academy. Don’t try to fool us.
Regarding the last paragraph – are you sure the best movies of the year shouldn’t get the awards because it might affect the ratings of the Oscars show? That’s ridiculous.
In my opinion, “The Dark Knight” was the best film of the year. And, no, I am not a sci-fi / action / superhero fanboy. I see a wide variety of films, and my favorites are usually the art films. However, Christopher Nolan’s movie is a masterpiece. If you remove the superhero aspects and the action set pieces from the film “The Dark Knight” (which I suspect the academy would have problems overlooking), but if you remove those two elements, then you still have a great movie, with great writing, great acting, great cinematography, great directing. I agree Heath Ledger did an incredible job, and I think he deserves an oscar nomination, but not *because* he died. He deserves it because of his work. Unfortunately, I think the academy voters will not be able to see past the possibility of rewarding a posthumous Mr Ledger with a ’supporting’ nomination, and they will decide “that is enough”, and not give the film any more considerations, and not give Ledger a ‘best actor’ nomination. “The Dark Knight” is a beautiful story about chaos and order, and how everyone tries to find their place in society. The writing is superb and allows Ledger’s character to show what he means. Ledger’s character dramatically affects Eckhart’s character, Oldman’s character, Gyllenhall’s character, and even Bale’s character. I suggest the following nominations: The Dark Knight for Best Picture and Heath Ledger for Best Actor (not best supporting actor).
I hope ‘Milk’ doesnt win Best Picture. I attend a few advanced screenings every month and caught this one before Thanksgiving. Underwelming. It was the only movie, after it ended no one clapped. Hell, people even clapped after ‘Death Race.’ Not comparing the two, just putting audience reaction in perspective. Its how I felt about ‘Brokeback,’ Im supposed to like it, but don’t and I’m not homophobic for not liking it.
I’m rooting for ‘Slumdog’ or ‘Batman’ (just because the thought of a Batman movie winning Best Picture is nuts.)
And finally Frank, “Slumdog Millionaire” is a big hit that even my conservative Republican family liked. You and all the Drudge people might even like it (especially if Bobby Jindal is a GOP Presidential contender).
You can definitely tell who the Drudge readers are scanning these comments. Only in their pea-brains are these witless gay jokes they’re posting even remotely funny.
But, to the topic at hand, I think that the person who said that each film in contention has a sore-thumb flaw is probably on the money (although I’m not really sure what Milk’s is supposed to be). Button is emotionally very cold, Slumdog has a slightly hokey last act, Doubt is occasionally campy, Dark Knight has a VERY incoherent last act (sorry, the ending is a mess and a half), and the Wrestler is too depressing.
Think of the Oscars as being like the NFL playoffs. Usually the team with the fewest weaknesses and the ability to exploit the Achilles’ Heel of the opponent wins out. The Giants last year were much more offensively balanced than New England, and took advantage off the Patriots’ one-dimensional offense to eke out the win in the end.
Slumdog is the most breathtaking technical achievement of the major contenders (Boyle’s cinematographer and editor deserve a lot of kudos for that). Slumdog is the only one of the major contenders that wasn’t made to deliberately be Oscar bait (Benjamin Button being the most egregious offender in my opinion). Hell, it was barely released after Warner Independent went under. In a stronger year for movies, it wouldn’t win BP. However, this was a very weak year, and going back to my NFL analogy, Slumdog is the most balanced film of the major contenders.
As for you Drudge idiots, just pop in your Passion of the Christ DVD’s and leave us adults alone.
The question should be…” Who gives a rat’s rear what these self absorbed celebutard Hollyweirdos are doing awarding themselves trophies?”
Truth is that WALL-E is the best picture of the year. That little robot does a better job of acting than mot of these other over-wrought performances by humans. What Disney has done with this movie is set a new standard for great story-telling, unrivaled creativity and the most entertaining film in many years.
What was all the fuss about Milk ?It’s the most overrated pic of the year. It’s a routine, by the book bio-pic that could have been done by Lifetime. Also did not think it was Penn’s finest work.
Very bad year for movies.
The Dark Knight for best picture? Seriously folks, it wasn’t that good. Entertaining? Sure, but hardly oscar worthy.
Milk isn’t best picture worth, but Sean Penn’s performance is.
The PC academy will make sure that Milk has a clean sweep. It has nothing to do with merit any more.
flowers4joni, nice to see someone else is wonderign when Winslet gets the statue. She is the best actress of her generation. I can’t fathom why she doesn’t have one. I hope she wins best supporting actress because I think that is where she has her best chance this year.
I agree with everyone regarding Ledger, outstanding performance. I still don’t think the movie was Oscar worthy, but his performance, regardless of what happened this year, was.
I cried at the end of Milk and so di many in my theatre. Harvey Milk is an important part of history and people should stop treating this story like a niche market. Harvey’s message of Hope is just as important today.
No one is mentioning the rest of the Milk cast and I am really surprised that Emile Hirsch has been overlooked all year. His turn at Cleve Jones is wonderful.
And Mamma Mia? Loved it. I hope there’s a number at the OScars. Who cares about Best Original Song, just give me another round of ABBA.
The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button doesn’t look entertaining to me in the slightest. More power to them on an oscar.
If Heath Ledger wins, I will NEVER watch the Oscars again.
Its BATMAN. Enough said
This board is filled with uptight, close-minded LIBERALS! Time to grow up and try thinking for yourselves instead of following left-wing groupthink.
Milk or Frost/Nixon will win because they fit nicely with the liberal agenda. Frank Langella will beat Penn because hatred of Republicans (Lincoln’s Party) trumps being pro-gay on the liberal “to-do” list.
Dark Knight will NEVER win because a single reviewer likened Batman to George W. Bush, i.e., sometimes you have to go into dark places and do bad things to get the bad guys – they just squirm with hatred over that idea!
The Oscars have become a lame joke that plays like a boring home movie. In all seriousness, does any of this matter and does anybody really care?
I hope that the Academy does not forget LEONARDO DICAPRIO for Revolutionary Road this year. Powerful performance. He has long deserved the Oscar and has deserved that make up oscar as well. He was nominated for Blood Diamond two years ago (for which many thought he should have been nominated for the best picture winner Departed instead) and for What’s Eating Gilbert Grape. He has starred and been an instumental part of two best winners — Titanic and The Departed and has also been a part of oscar nominee Gangs of New York. It’s about time that Leo gets an Oscar.
So far, WALL-E is the best picture I have seen this year. However, it would be in animated category I guess for Oscar. DON’T MISS it! It is far from some cartoon for children..in fact, I would not recommend it for children under 6.
The Oscars are fixed, and have been for some time. Like the Nobel Peace Prize the politically correct films and actors/actresses will walk away with the prizes. Any gay themed film, any hate-America screed is automatically a front runner. And any player who wants an inside track for a giveaway Oscar that means nothing to thinking people will run off to Venezuela to hug the nearest dictator who’s voiding any and all constitutional human rights or rushing to Death Row to smother mass murderers with affection for the way bad old America has treated them.
Sheesh, even the scientific fraud Al Gore and his scientifically-fraudulent propaganda film won Oscars. Al and the filmmakers deliberately falsified 1,000 years of climate history to present “fake but true” political propaganda. If that doesn’t tell you all you need to know about Hollywood and its various agendas then I’m afraid you’re nothing more than political imbecile given to mindless cult worship.
The issue isn’t how good a movie is – it’s how strongly the studio gets behind it in the annual Oscar Campaigns, where millions (conservative estimates say $10-15 million can be spent “supporting” a film for Best Actor, Actress, or Picture.
Hollywood is a self-congratulating quagmire. Anyone who puts credence into a film just because it won an award (ALL of them – Oscars, Golden Globes, SAG Awards, etc, etc, etc.)is missing the point. Movies are for entertainment. Period. If you liked it, it’s a great movie. If you didn’t, it sucks. Plain and simple.
Oh, and if Batman has any actors nominated it’ll be Heath, but only as a knee-jerk reaction. Funny – Brad Renfro died of a drug overdose in Jan ‘08 and everyone said “What a waste. He got into drugs and it killed him. Serves him right.” BUT when Heath Ledger dies of a drug overdose he’s lauded as a magnificent actor who made a mistake. This is a guy who doctor-shopped and had multiple prescriptions for multiple drugs. My guess is the studio spin-meisters pulled off the feat of a lifetime in painting Ledger as anything but a garden-variety Hollywood druggie.
Where’s the balance there????
Went to see Slumdog, since I have been a big fan of Boyle’s ever since his breakthough movie Trainspotting. WOW, even though I was expecting a good/great movie I was still “BLOWN AWAY”. It is thrilling to see that such creative movies can still be made. You must see this one before determining your Oscar “Final Answer”…!
Rachel Getting Married was easily the worst, most overrated movie in a very long time. Too long. Awful music. Stupid dialogue. And an over-abundance of scenes that flirt with depth but don’t actually go anywhere. The only reason Anne Hathaway is mentioned for anything good is because her mediocre performance looks so much better compared to the monotony and foolishness of the rest of the flick.
Come on, people.
I quit watching the Oscar’s years ago. The repeated circle-jerk from the moonbat “progressives” got on my last nerve. I quit spending any $$ for a movie 3 years ago, due to the intolerance and hatred from the Left. I dearly miss Bette Davis, Clark Gable, Jimmy Stewart. Tired of the over paid whiners from Hollyweird. That being said, the anti- Repub. movie, and the pro-homo movie will win most of the awards. It’s a given-Hollyweird no longer cares about quality, it’s all about “sending a message” to the ignorant Americans, in their view. Perhaps they should make some more anti-American, anti-military, anti-Bush, anti-Christian movies?? The ‘bats cream themselves over them, though the pics make little to no money. Keep flipping off Mainstream America, see how much more $$ goes in your pockets. Hollyweird is full of greedy, elitist, sactimonious blowhards. I hope Made-off stole billions from the Industry, nothing would make me happier. Merry Christmas!
Milk should win, along with Van Sant and Penn.
If the overwrought made for the oscars film “The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button” gets any Oscars I would be dissapointed. “The Dark Knight” should WIN the best picture. If it is not even nomatated then I WONT HAVE ANY INTEREST. Why can’t the Oscars be FUN? MILK? Wont see it and never will, nobody can tell me Frost/Nixon is better than the Dark Knight, DOUT are you serious?.. and I HOPE MICKEY ROURKE WINS…!!!!
…….Doubt…..best actor, best actress, best screenplay…..best movie…….
Regards,
Robert
Plenty of decent performances this year but come on Academy, your choice of hosts for this year’s Oscar telecast is THE WORST. YUCK! First you idiots move the telecast up one month too early (end of March was perfect timing) and now you can’t seem to find anyone close to Billy Crystal-quality to host, not that there are more than 1 or 2 decent options but still…) Finally, what does Billy Crystal do each winter that is superior to his hosting gig? Why isn’t he host for life? There’s no host better than Crystal, it’s a waste each year without him. Very disappointed in the Academy for failing to do ANYTHING IT TAKES to get Crystal back.
Jake, don’t forget about The Aviator! That Leo performance was in the tradition of the classic leading man roles from the Scorsese canon. I’m still bitter that Jaime Suxx was rewarded for aping Ray Charles that year. I don’t think he’ll win this year because Revolutionary Road doesn’t have a ton of heat but he definitely will someday, he’s too talented not to. I’m glad he’s finally received the respect he so richly deserves for his acting talent since a lot of snobbish people hated him for whatever reason after Titanic.
Brad Pitt for Best Actor? Are you kidding me…that film had to be narrated because of his lack of acting skills. He’s clearly trying the male version of Kidman and Theron…and its an abjunct failure.
God love you, Drudgebots. You come to this blog armed to the teeth with all both of your talking points:
1. Homosexuality frightens you
2. The Oscars are “liberal group-think”.
Let’s look at some of the Best Picture winners of the last decade or so, and tell me how they fit into these two arguments you mental midgets from Drudge are offering.
No Country for Old Men – uh…it’s a violent drug deal gone wrong movie. Fairly apolitical film
The Departed – hmmm..a film about dirty cops, but again not too political
Crash – ok, I’ll give you that one
Lord of the Rings: Return of the King – only a brain dead simpleton aka a Drudgebot or Fox viewer would think this film was a “liberal soap box” kind of movie.
Chicago – a freaking Bob Fosse musical – again, rather apolitical
A Beautiful Mind – a biopic about a bipolar math professor – neither gay nor politcal
Gladiator – nope, again..not a soapbox film
Seriously, guys…I’m simply not seeing what you’re whining about. If I were a betting man, I’d say that you live such an insular echo-chamber existence that you don’t let silly things like facts or objective reality dampen a well-construction preconception.
BTW – Batman won’t win because you halfwits think its an ode to George Bush, it won’t win because the script unraveled pretty severely in the last half hour.
Angelina Jolie for Best Actress in the Changeling. I realize she probably won’t get it, because she is too beautiful and privileged, but she deserves a nod at least.
Best screenplay also to The Changeling. I was shaking when I left the theater. That movie really got to me.
DiCaprio deserves NEVER to win an Oscar. At least not until he’s able to pass himself off as a grown man rather than a twelve year old lesbian. The facial hair he grows for his little cinematic escapades are laugh-inducing. Kate Winslet is far more deserving of an Oscar although she won’t win this year because both movies she did were awful AND flops.
There were many good movies in 2008, so it will be an interesting Oscar season. The idea that the awards are already decided is quite silly. Many movies made this year will be appreciated by film lovers for years to come. I liked Slumdog Millionaire, Milk, Frost/Nixon, The Dark Knight, In Bruges, and the Visitor all very much. Benjamin Button and Doubt were both over-rated. I am somewhat surprised that the Sean Hannity crowd should be paying attention to this stream, since I thought they would be attending religious services or buying guns this week.
I don’t suppose it would be possible for drudge visitors to talk about the *movies*… it seems like they’re the ones incapable of viewing things through anything but a political lens. Here’s a request–okay, if you didn’t like Milk or Frost/Nixon (have you even *seen* either one?), fine, but post a list of the five movies you think *do* deserve nominations for Best Pic and spend your time on that. And don’t waste your time & ours posting “why does anyone care about the Oscars anyway?”
Schlomo, they’re not going to discriminate against Dark Knight because of the politics you imagine it has; the Academy will discriminate against Dark Knight because it’s a comic book movie & made *too much* money. (A best pic should be profitable, but not *too* profitable.) Unfair? Absolutely. I think both Dark Knight & WALL-E are fantastic pictures worthy of a best pic nom. But no worries, WALL-E’s a shoo-in for best animated film.
Vince Hugh & Kathy–really? Care to explain how “The Departed” is political? (2006) Or “Gladiator”? (2000) Or “No Country for Old Men”? (2007) or Chicago (2002)? “Million Dollar Baby” was, but it was directed by a guy so Republican, he served as a Republican mayor in the 80s.And Crash (2005) spent two hours being as politically INcorect about race relations as possible. People vote for the movies they like best. It’s just that simple.
Obviously. the Oscars will go to whom will deliver the most annoying liberal acceptance speech. Hollywood stoped delivering art and is only focused on delivering leftist propaganda. I’m so glad ‘Che” is overlooked. Having known the real story up close and personal I can say it’s nauseating to see the hype about the chracter.
Carmen,
Here are a list of the last 10 Best Picture winners:
No Country for Old Men
The Departed
Crash
Million Dollar Baby
Return of the King
Chicago
Beautiful Mind
Gladiator
American Beauty
Shakespeare in Love
Please, explain for us how these pictures were rewarded or how the winners gave the “most liberal acceptance speech”. Did you even WATCH last year’s ceremony? Please, tell us what you remember about Joel and Ethan Coen’s three acceptance speeches. Frankly, people like you repeat the “liberal Hollywood acceptance speech” canard so much, you probably don’t even realize that virtually EVERY Oscar speech is a person nervously stammering through a list of their agents and close personal friends and getting drowned out by the orchestra before finishing.
Georginna, I’m not exactly sure why people like you think you’re being witty when you use homophobic slurs to make a point. I’d also like to know how Revolutionary Road and the Reader are considered to be “flops” when neither film has opened nationally yet?
Hey, Drudge crowd, gotta question for you. Why exactly do you think that Che is somehow in contention for major Oscars this year? It’s barely even being released, and the film received generally mixed to negative notices from reviewers complaining mostly about Soderberg’s artistic choices.
I second the previous comment from the person who actually challenged you nimrods to come up with a list of movies that you feel SHOULD be nominated for Best Picture. A true sign of an intellectual simpleton is when you do nothing but criticize instead of engaging in a real discussion. You hate the contending movies, fine. What do YOU want to see get rewarded.
The simple fact is that there are NO decent picks for best picture this year. Frankly, the quality of films the past 12 months has been utterly abysmal. I certainly hope 2009 does better.
Greg, to ignore the political aspect of Oscar awards is to deny reality itself. Any movie depicting the Holocaust (The Piano, Shindler’s List), for instance, gets an extra 15 points in free consideration. An anti-Semite role loses 10, especially if the actor is good enough to make it slightly sympathetic (Day-Lewis: GoNY). Making actual anti-Semite comments (Gibson) will remove you from consideration permanently.
Portraying homophobes as murderous thugs who themselves secretly harbor homosexual urges (American Beauty) is 10 points. Showing the beauty and value of a disabled person (Rain Man, Forest Gump, A Beautiful Mind) nets you 5 points. Portraying native peoples as being oppressed by Europeans (Gandhi, Dances with Wolves) is another 5 points.
A strong populist message (Driving Miss Daisy, Titanic, etc) is only a couple points, worthwhile only as a tiebreaker.
Rourke deserves the Oscar hands down. I saw Meryl Streep in Doubt last night and she was fantastic. I will wait to see who is actually nominated (for the women) and make my decision at that time however.
Best Moive: The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button
Best Actress: Cate Blanchett
Best Actor :Mickey Rourke or Robert Downey
Best Supporting Actor: Columbus Short
Best Supporting Actress: Taraji P. Henson
Best documentary: Encounters at the End of the World
Best website: Drudge Report
Milk is highly overrated (even more so among gays where you have to adore it or your a self-hating ) but that pales in comparison with the out of all proportion salivating over Dark Knight and Heath Ledger. The film was long, copy-cat, uneven and Ledger was just a boring one note. He had no screen presence at all. Nolan did a much better job with Begins.
As for Wall-e, I actually left in 20 minutes because it was so unengaging. The damned Academy Awards should go back to being an awards banquet like when it began.
Mickey Roarke should win-hands down!!
I agree with the person who thinks at least ONE nominee should be a movie of a wider audience.
But the Dark Knight is NOT that movie. When Ledger wasn’t on the screen, I missed him desparately. The last 3rd of the movie lost HUGE steam. Bale’s grunting/mumbling voice was incredibly bothersome. And once we saw the last of the Joker, we had to sit through 20+ minutes of Two-Face crap, which I cared nothing about.
Iron Man was more entertaining AND slightly better.
WALL-E should get a Best Picture nominee. I know there’s an animation category, but there can always be exceptions. The LOVE STORY in Wall-E is better than any love story I’ve seen in a long time. The emotion that Pixar/Andrew Stanton got out of 2 non-speaking robots without human-looking eyes and limbs in the first 40 minutes was ASTONISHING.
It’s hard to believe all the posts on this board complaining about Liberal hate when the most hateful and vile posts are written in defense of conservatism.
I think this year is far superior to last year. There’s a greater diversity in subject matter than I’ve seen in years; the slums of Mumbai, a turn of the century man aging backwards, an American civil rights leader, nuns, Nazi era stories, a discredited President and some super heroes.
Honestly, what a great year for film.
Oh, yes, the Academy is just filled to the brim with proud liberals who love to give “progressive” films their due. Tell that to Spike Lee…or for that matter, the other Mr. Lee…as in Ang.
Does the movie “Brokeback Mountain” ring a bell? The so-called liberal Academy went out of their way to snub “BB” for “Pic” by choosing a loser-snoozer of a flick, “Crash,” for their top award. It was almost worth it to see “Pic” announcer Jack Nicholson look speechless for the first time in his life. Let’s face it: two men kissing onscreen is the last taboo for the Bel-Air blue-haired screening circuit…and they’re not going quietly into that good night anytime soon.
The Academy abhors political controversy and social conflict — and even more troubling, they seem to have retreated back into the 50’s with their choices of late. Does anyone think a film like “Midnight Cowboy” would win “Best Picture” today? No way. As for “Milk,” the Academy would rather give Barbra Streisand the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award than give an Oscar to “Milk” for “Best Picture.” NOT gonna happen.
And to the snob who dismisses Ledger because he was in a “Batman” flick…shame on you. Every actor I’ve spoken to this year is voting for him and he’ll win in a landslide. Some performances are iconic — and Ledger delivered big time.
As for Winslet…I guess she’ll have to get raped on a pin ball machine a la Jodie Foster to convince the Academy she’s worthy. It’s a scandal she hasn’t been honored, to be honest. When you lose to a hack like Helen Hunt, it’s a cross to bear for a lifetime.
Anyone picking anything else then Slumdog Millionaire obviously hasn’t seen it yet. Milk?? Not even close….
I think The Dark Knight is deserving of a best picture nomination. More so than say, Revolutionary Road. It won’t get it but it would be nice to Hollywood acknowledge the types of movies that are paying the bills.
As a “Liberal” it offends me how idiots are quick to give out labels and make generalizations. My friends and I all saw “Milk” and agreed the documentary about Harvey (released a little while back) was better than the film itself. Penn was the best thing in the film. But the film itself was just another routine docudrama. Also Rourke has the Oscar. It’s his. “Slumdog” is the best picture of the crop. Jolie in “Changeling” is underrated. Dicaprio out acted Winslet in “Revolutionary”. Dev Patel is the darkhorse surprise nominee for Supporting (wait and see). Streep over acted in “Doubt” and Viola Davis was waaaaaay good in a limited scene.
Also the notion that anyone who dislikes “Milk” is a homophobe will only create backlash for the film. Voters don’t like being told what they will be predictably voting for. The film is not going to convince anyone who is a homophobe to change their ways, because those people won’t even see the film. So how can anyone who HAS seen it (and disliked it) be considered some gay hating biggot?
I look at it this way, if the superior in every way “Brokeback Mountain” didn’t take it, “Milk” sure as hell won’t.
Finally, “Button” was the first time I ever fell asleep during a screening. And “The Dark Knight” is a good movie, and if “Return of the King” could inexplicably win, “TDK” has a shot. But I’m not going to even kid myself by believing that will happen this year. It won’t.
Penelope Cruz for Best Supporting Actress -Vicki Christina Barcelona
I tend to agree with those who think Slumdog became easily predictable in the second half. I also don’t know if anybody noticed, but the scene of the kid jumping in the excrement was stolen from “Schindler’s List” when the little boy jumped in the toilet stall excrement to escape the Nazi’s from sending him off to a death camp only to be kicked out by other children. It was a nice try by Boyle but when you put the two scenes next to each other, they don’t compare.
I thought Benjamin Button was good. For those of you that haven’t seen it, I think a good way to sum it up is that if you liked Forrest Gump, you’ll like Benjamin Button. If you were a critic of Forrest Gump, you probably won’t like it. I just found the movies to be similar in different ways.
Milk was a great movie as well. Although I agreed on the outset that the movie was being made because Harvey Milk was the first openly gay officeholder. However, after watching the movie, it paints a picture of how the gay rights movement began. Also, I will be quick to point out to fellow conservatives that the political issue which the movie centered around was Milk’s opposition to a proposition which would remove openly gay teachers from their jobs due to the “potential”, according to the drafters of the proposition, that they would be more likely to molest children. Ronald Reagan even opposed it and sided with Milk (an unlikely alliance) which the movie was quick to point out. With all that said, I wasn’t sold completely on Penn’s performance. There were times where he was brilliant but at other times he was “acting” and you could tell he was uncomfortable with some parts of the role.
Mickey Rourke should be the hands down favorite for lead actor. I couldn’t tell it was Mickey Rourke. Another factor to consider….I’m not so sure how much weight to give it……but even some of the critics which hated Mickey Rourke think he would be robbed if he does not win the oscar.
Finally, I think the academy will lose a lot of credibility if “The Dark Knight” doesn’t win Best Picture. It was not only the best movie this year, it is one of the best movies ever made. Empire.com already ranks it as the 15th greatest film of alltime. In fact, if you match it up against prior winners for the last 20 years, you would have to go back to “Schindler’s List” before finding a movie that could beat it.
Dark Knight is a good movie at best.
Definitely not deserving of a nomination.
You have to go back 20 years to find a better movie than Dark Knight? How about 1 year…No Country for Old Men. And, of the top of my head, Mystic River and Goodfellas are each TWICE as good as the Dark Knight.
If Sean Penn wins ANYTHING, even dog catcher, I’m gonna’ cry ’til I can’t stop and then I’m throwin a fit. That guy doesn’t even deserve for us to spend money on his films. Talk about your jerks and he’s really tough on the eyes to watch! IMHO
Sorry, BLT, but I saw The Dark Knight and was completely underwhelmed. Even in IMAX, it was just another overhyped movie.
Traci: I agree with you about Changeling. I think a lot of people are counting it out and shouldn’t, for both best actress and screenplay. It’s not the “trendy” film of the moment, but it’s a solid drama and the academy always responds to movies with strong lead females in biographical roles.
DARK KNIGHT. The film was choppy, with some way unnecessary sequences which left me unconvinced. DARK KNIGHT is definitely not a great film, but one with a gold vein in the performance of Heath Ledger.
However, because DARK KNIGHT entertained, and excited audiences like so many films have tried in the last few years, it would be ridiculous of the Academy not to give at least Best Supporting Actor to DARK KNIGHT.
Hollywood and the media go through the motion every year of this charade of “selecting” best whatever and it is always decided beforehand by an “elite” few.
I have stopped watching this since 1980 and have not gone to a movie since then. If more of us stopped paying attention to this tripe perhaps the movies would improve.
The Oscars and Hollywood have become a JOKE. When Marley trashes all the others over Christmas it tells you the PUBLIC is really sick of the ’cause’ pictures.
DARK KNIGHT the best film in 20 years?
Not only is it no the best film of 2008 – it’s not even the best superhero film of 2008. IRON MAN was far superior.
DARK KNIGHT should have saved most of the Two Face story for the next chapter.
If a movie like “no country for old men” can win and it ended in the middle as far as I was concerned, then the field is wide open for any movie to take home the Oscar.
The Oscars have become an event for Hollywood not for the movie going public.. Seldom do anyone I know go see what they deem the winners.The only thing that makes Hllywood happy is a picture about politics or something along that vain.. Fun, family. feel good pictures are practically dead on arrival and are savaged by the critics. The critics dislike most things regular people like,so if they like it I rarely go see it.I know it will be full of dark, miserable images and some major theme of the day that the Hollywood thinks America needs to be brainwashed with. Movies are a sad business these days and the oscar ceremonies a once a must see, is now a must not… Cindy
Come on! The only movie that I feel startled me with how truly excellent it turned out to be this year, other than the Dark Knight, was Wall-E! The whole opening sequence without a single word of dialogue is nothing short of genius- as overworked as that word is nowadays. Slumdog is also very good, and very touching, but not in the same league as the first two. The astounding job that Mickey Rourke did should earn him “best actor” since the Academy will see fit to only nominate Ledger in a supporting role despite having about as much screen time as Bale and with more impact to boot. Mickey is completely a chameleon and simply brilliant, which we have seen from him before, but only at times with Rourke being the most inconsistent, unpredictable actor around today; and that extends to his weird choice of pictures as well! I was caught up in “The Dark Knight” in a way that has happened only a few times in the last twenty years, most recently in “No country for old men”. And to not see the “two face” character evolving in front of my eyes until well into the picture is a supreme testament as to how well Christopher Nolan and all the rest did in making me “willingly suspend disbelief” while watching what is, at its purest level, simply a comic book! Absolutely amazing with the extraordinary talents of Oldman, Gyllenhall, amd Eckhart never hitting a false note while covering all the bases regarding the ancient theme of good versus evil better than any but a few movies in the last fifty years. It is a picture for the ages, folks, and I hope that the Academy doesn’t pass up the true best picture, as they have done time and time again in the past, simply because of its genre.
“A true sign of an intellectual simpleton is when you do nothing but criticize instead of engaging in a real discussion. You hate the contending movies, fine. What do YOU want to see get rewarded.
Comment by Zwingli the Miffed”
Hey Zwingy!! What if there was nothing worth rewarding?…
Why do so many of you guys keep equating DHD with Drudge? Has it occurred to you that Matt habitually links to it not because of a political affinity with Nikki but because it’s the finest and most biting site around for the inner workings of Hollywood machinations? I really wish that sometimes we could all leave our baggage and biases at the door even though the films or industry stories in question have a tendency to bring these things to the forefront of the surface. Anytime I see somebody start a post that laments the presence of “Drudge-bot” feedback my eyes glaze over and I immediately move on to the next comment with the hope that it’s more levelheaded.
Milk is a well made, but routine, film. No way it should win Best Picture. For me, it’s between Slumdog Millionaire and the Dark Knight. Judging from some of the posts on here, TDK is suffering from a little overhype backlash. It was a smash with both audiences and critics (95% on Rottentomatoes), but the complete overreaction to how good it is just has a lot of people sick of hearing about it. It’s not the best movie in the last 20 years, but I would argue top 5 of the last 5 years. As for other movies, Benjamin Button is too long and tries to hard, and Doubt is only mentioned because of the phenomenal acting. It didn’t translate from stage to big screen as well as it could have. I haven’t seen the Wrestler, but from what I hear, it could sneak in and snag the award, though Rourke getting Best Actor may hurt its chances, since it appears he carried the whole film.
Any indications for original score? A R Rahman’s score for Slumdog is great but I don’t know what else might stand out. Rahman writes amazing music for Indian movies, many of which actually have better scores than Slumdog but would never get nominated because not enough people see them over here (they do play at Indian multiplex theaters in every major metro area of the country, though). I hope he’s given the Oscar. He is an enormous talent and terribly under-appreciated outside of Indian cinema. If you ever get the chance to see him on tour–typically LA, SF, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, New York, Chicago, Toronto, Vancouver, etc, every couple of years–do it. There must be a dozen musicians, a dozen dancers, and at least a half dozen of the best Indian singers. Three-plus hours, worth every cent! And by the way, I am NOT south Asian.
I saw Slumdog Millionaire today. It was amazing. It should win Best Picture. The actors in it are amazing as well, but I’m sure they’ll be over-looked. If you haven’t seen it yet, it’s a must see.
I also thought Clint Eastwood’s Gran Torino was a great movie. I would vote for either Gran Torino or Slumdog Millionaire. However, Slumdog Millionaire is just special.
Dear conservative movie mavens:
First, you are right.
The Hollywood establishment makes shit.
But you are wrong about them being liberal. They are fake liberals who hide their racism, sexism and homophobia by pandering to what they feel is majority societal notion of good and evil.
Look at Benjamin Button: it has evil white men who abandon babies, beautiful women who abandon their hearts and noble, perfect black people who sacrifice their souls and none of them count for anything in the film.
And they get away with it because they have no competition. But you can topple Hollywood easily. All you need is a billion dollars to start a new one. I’m not being facetious. It can be done inside of five years.
All you have to do is cut out the crap. No racism, no sexism, no homophobia and no nepotism. These things are leading to the shit we produce, you see.
This is the only way to destroy the monster. Otherwise they will never change and the movies and TV shows with fake liberal philosophy, racial and sexual stereotypes, effeminate men and sexualized women will continue.
I’m ready to sign up for Hollywood 2.0.
Are you ready to fund it?
If Milk wins then this whole Oscar event is a total joke.
Trust me, people will stop watching it because they will not be fooled by the industries motivation!
Nick,
I disagree. No Country for Old Men was a great movie, but it won best picture mostly because of lack of competition (3 hours of watching Daniel Day Lewis dig for oil just didn’t cut it).
TDK should win because of all the moral and ethics issues dealing with human beings which are covered. Anarchy vs. Order; Human beings inherently being born as good vs. part of nature; the extremes humans will utilize violence against one another vs. the absolute morals of right and wrong; the ability of human beings as a social society to chose order aka state power vs. individual rights and chaos. Do I need to go on?
Put those issues up against the contenders:
TDK v. Milk: TDK
TDK v. Doubt: TDK
TDK v. Frost/Nixon: TDK
TDK v. Button: TDK
TDK v. Slumdog: TDK (although Slumdog puts up the best fight)
After last year’s oscars, everyone proclaimed that Javier Bardem created the most evil character since Hannibal or the Terminator. Heath Ledger’s performance beat them all, as well as the rest of the movie in all fields of cinema.
If The Dark Knight is not nominated, an asterik should be placed next to the winner in the books noting that it didn’t have to go up against The Dark Knight in the final ballot. Any other winner would not have the same credibility as past winners. Some of these movies should have come out last year if the wanted to be legit winners.
As far as I’m concerned, the Oscars have as much credibility as the Grammys or the Mudflump County Fair Blue Ribbon.
Kubrick never won an Oscar. Nothing will ever counter-balance the preceding statement to make me give a goodgoddamn about any person or film willing a little gold statue. Art simply IS.
Frank Langella – WORST NIXON EVER. Should get a Razzie for a ridiculous performance.
Langella is laughably BAD in a BAD didactic movie. Good lord, Nixon’s Head in Futura is a better Nixon.
Heath Ledger — HAMMIEST performance of the year. More ham than a butcher’s shop. Yes, lick those lips one more time Heath just to show how “nutty” ya are. Very subtle.
If the movies mentioned are the noms, I predict this will be an even lower audience than last year’s low.
Go ahead Hollywoodenheads, make my day.
I disagree that venting about the Drudgebots is somehow out of bounds here. If you read the comments of the people who clearly only found this website through Drudge, you see a group of small-minded morons who say the two or three talking points they know about “liberal Hollywood” and add literally NOTHING else to the debate.
Hey, Drudge morons, we get it, you hate movies because they aren’t white and 1950’s enough for you. So, WHY ARE YOU POSTING ON A BOARD ABOUT HOLLYWOOD IF YOU’VE WRITTEN IT OFF? Seriously, don’t defend these people, because they aren’t worth defending.
Hey! They gave one to Cher! Enough said . . . G
Since the academy and I rarely agree I choose my own categories.
Best Trailer – Appaloosa
Best Last Two Minutes Of A Movie – It’s a tie between Curious Case of Benjamin Button and Tropical Thunder
Best Actress Using Just Her Face To Convey Emotion – Tie – Michelle Williams and Angelina Jolie.
Best Actor In A Role That Most Resembles Himself – Mickey Rourke
Best Milking Of A Role – Meryl Streep
Best Actor That Should Have Won Last Year – Brad Pitt for Jesse James
Best Actress That Should Have Won Last Year – Angelina Jolie
Best Bitch Face – Cate Blanchett in everything
Best Fictional Movie That Hits Too Close To Home To The Point Of Being Depressing – Revolutionary Road
Best True Movie That Seems Like It Would Be Boring, But Isn’t! – Frost Nixon
Best Movie To Watch More Than Twice – Pineapple Express
The Liberal Agenda Never Ends:
Milk – we love gays, their relationships and sensitivity.
Doubt – priests are more naughty than nice
Walle – save the planet from stupid men
Enough –
Best Film – Slumdog Millionaire- now that is why you go to the movies!
whatever films are the most politically correct will be rewarded. Same with the dumb s__t actors
Sean Penn will win Best Actor for “Milk”: It’s H’wood’s way of responding to the passage of Proposition 8 in California. Plus it’s a role that Sean Penn will forever be associated with–that’s a key facet for winnng an Oscar. Extra points for whatever political remarks Sean includes in his acceptance speech. And remember, H’wood still needs to make up for the “Brokeback” Best Pic snub from a few years ago.
Under the formula of a “role to forever be associated with,” Mickey Rourke’s “The Wrestler” might pull an upset, but the hype for Rourke will run the same trajectory as that for Bill Murray a few years back in “Lost in Translation”: Lots of “he’ll win” hype, but ultimately no Oscar.
No predictions for “Best Pic,” but Wall-e, if nominated, could pull an upset.
No predictions for Best Actress. Meryl Streep for Doubt is too obvious; I dont think it’s one she’ll be chiefly known for.
Penelope Cruz is a shoo-in for Vicki Christina Barcelona, and since everyone is still talking about Heath’s Joker performance, he could win: also figure in more payback for the “Brokeback” snub from a few years back.
Did it ever occur to some of you that critics’ consensus tend to win Oscars because they are good? There’s no widespread conspiracy – good movies appeal to critics AND the Academy. That said, I hate to disagree with Nikki, but box-office gross doesn’t make a movie good. Period. Look back over Martin Scorsese’s career – I would bet all of his movies didn’t gross COMBINED what Shrek 2 did. I want The Dark Knight to win Best Pic, Director, Supporting Actor, and Adapted Screenplay. By the way, Streep and Blanchett (I believe) would be in 2 separate categories, that’s why. Having seen Doubt, Button, and The Dark Knight, TDK was by far the best film. I haven’t seen Slumdog Millionaire yet, but it’s going to have to be something special to get my vote over The Dark Knight. I think regardless of how it fares come February, The Dark Knight changes the game for movies. It’s a big-budget studio film that was done well. Not as a superhero film, not as a blockbuster, but as a movie. I’m sick of seeing obscure Fox Searchlight designed-to-win-Oscars films take the biggest prize. Encourage studios to turn towards using their coffers to create brilliant art, not low-budget arthouse flicks and big-budget trash. TDK to sweep.
Global warming is the reason movies suck anymore!
Meryl Streep should win based on the fact that she has been nominated a zillion times without winning. It’s just depressing the way she is supposed to be happy being nominated only.
Viola Davis from Doubt should win Best Supporting Actress. Her performance was AMAZING.
I’ve not seen an actor literally steal Meryl Streep’s thunder in a scence quite like Ms. Divis did. Her performace was quiet and powerful. She had only two scenes and she made the most of them. She was the sould of the movie.
Well, well, well. I guess it’s that time of year again, where people “horserace” the Oscar voting and then are bitterly disappointed when the actual awards are given out. So, in the spirit of commenting on this website with the rest of the unwashed, hoi-polloi, whose opinions will be ignored in due course by the vain and irrelevant Academy Award establishment, here are my choices for the catergories discussed in the article:
BEST PICTURE
Milk
Slumdog Millionaire
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
Frost/Nixon
Because it’s been a horrific year if you are a member of the artsy-fartsy crowd that watches films such as these, and because those “evil” Mormons voted against Prop 8, MILK be my pick for BEST PICTURE of the year. After all, this is the same Academy that thought Beautiful Mind and Chicago were better than Fellowship of the Ring and Two Towers. Moving on….
BEST ACTOR
Sean Penn
Brad Pitt
Frank Langella
Mickey Rourke
My pick in this category is easy. Just think about a movie that no one sees outside of the New York/LA/DC Axis of Evil, with no iconic actors in it and you easily get to…surprise, surprise…Mickey Rourke!Plus, Brad Pitt is the new Tom Cruise in this category. He’s had his one shot at greatness, never to be repeated.
BEST ACTRESS
Cate Blanchett
Meryl Streep
Kate Winslet
Weak category this year, but got to give it to the old standby in the nun’s habit. Meryl Streep. The world’s least talented, old-school female actress, other than, maybe Glenn Close. But, the Academy likes anything that makes the Catholic Church look scandalous or irrelevant. So, this is an easy pick in a weak category overall. Besides, Kate Winslet has her own cross to bear as another poster noted, with that whole Helen Hunt thing from, like, ten years ago.
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Heath Ledger
Philip Seymour Hoffman
Another weak category. Really, really weak. If Heath wasn’t dead, he’d be ignored because he had broken the 11th Hollywood Commandment: THOU SHALT NOT STAR IN A COMIC BOOK MOVIE RELEASED IN JULY FOR THE 15-24 YEAR OLD MALE DEMOGRAPHIC! But, he od’d, so it gives him some credibility. He’s my pick for this category. And I really like Philip Seymour Hoffman. I think that guy’s pretty friggin’ brilliant.
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Viola Davis
Amy Adams
Taraji P. Henson
Marisa Tomei
Another pitifully weak category. And that’s too bad, but a lot of the really good films this year were either not written for women, or were released in the summer and thus don’t matter. And, since the Academy has already given awards to mollify “the blacks” recently (see Denzel Washington and Halle Berry) they won’t give it to a no-name who made one of the Best Picture films. Instead, the washed -up Italian from New Jersey is my pick in this category. Again, in a movie that no one outside the coasts saw.
Overall, the ratings should be down form last year by about 20-30% and whatever professional sport is on at the time shoudl get higher ratings and attract more interest. Or, we can all stare at more pictures of Barak Obama running around shirtless.
Maybe the Academy should hold the Oscars on Ice and have Adam Sandler host them!
I haven’t seen any of ‘em yet, but next week after the kids are back in school, I’ll probly see at least one a day til I run the whole lot of em.
One is sure to be Milk, cause I will watch Sean Penn in any movie, cause I think he is a great actor, but I will not pay for it. I will pay for another movie and go in to the Milk theater. I will not put a penny in his damn liberal pocket.
He’ll have to get his next plane fare to visit Chavez from you other goofy libs.
I think that Leo and Kate are both up for it in Revolutionary Road. Great Performaces all around. I think the film should also be up for it in Picture and Director, Although I think the only one worthy of a win is Leo and perhaps Mendes for direction.
“Look back over Martin Scorsese’s career – I would bet all of his movies didn’t gross COMBINED what Shrek 2 did”.
Thank you for making my point by comparing Scorsese’s film portfolio with a f@cking cartoon. Yes you are right, true great art is not critiqued on how many people have seen it as much as its true meaning to the soul.
See: Christ in a piss jar (How rave!)
Come on you guys & gals. The oscars is a bunch of narcissistic ego mainiacs giving each other statues
for play acting. Other than perhaps cleavage it not worth 2 seconds of anyone’s time. Really.
If hollywood depended on the Mr. Rights of the world thay’d be cleaning toilets or even walking the streets for a living.
Ralph Fiennes deserves a Best Supporting Actor nomination for the one-two punch of “The Duchess” and “In Bruges.” He’ll never get it, and that’s why all this self congratulatory horserace horseshit is completely useless.
I saw an earlier post mention Appaloosa. That was a good movie. Does anyone here think it deserves any consideration? Ed Harris and Viggo were great!
On another note, why are these movies always released right before the deadline?? I understand releasing movies on Christmas day is attractive, but only if it is going to make some money (Benjamin Button seemed to pass this test). Are the academy voters Phd’s?? If not, get some balls and release the movies earlier so people can see them. Gran Tornino, The Wrestler, The Reader, and Revolutionary Road have not even been released anywhere but a few selections. People will see them if they are available. I think the oscars should have a new judgment category for cowardice. If the academy is wondering why nobody sees the movies it nominates, maybe that is because they are not released with enought time for people to see them, especially during the holidays when everyone goes to the movies. At least Milk was released more than a month before the deadline. Revolutionary Road, The Reader, The Wrestler, and Gran Torino all get docked a point in my book for lacking any guts in their abilities to sell an oscar movie to the public.
P.S. Please don’t respond that the public are morons. They can judge good movies.
“you see a group of small-minded morons who say the two or three talking points they know about “liberal Hollywood”….”
“Hey, Drudge morons, we get it, you hate movies because they aren’t white and 1950’s enough for you. ”
Wow Pete. Pot, meet kettle. Were you purposefully trying to demonstrate the meaning of “hypocrisy”, or does such just come naturally?
You folks in the entertainment industry have to be the most self-important people on the planet. Good luck with that whole “new economy” thing.
The good news is daddy government says they’re happy to re-train you for a manual labor position rebuilding infrastructure. Can’t wait to watch the movie in 25 years depicting how well that all worked out for you guys…
Um…Brian in New Orleans, pointing out that the Drudgebots don’t know anything about the movies apart from a few talking points and then saying that they’d clearly prefer 1950’s style movies isn’t “hypocrisy” it’s an “informed opinion”. I can’t help but notice that whenever a Drudgebot’s “liberal Hollywood” talking point was challenged with a request to explain how movies like Return of the King, Departed, and No Country for Old Men were “liberal”, the Drudgebots responded with either stony silence or some witless comment about gay people.
With no due respect, if you hate movies that much, then why the fuck are you posting on a site about the movies?
I’ll be curious to see how you Drudgebots will react if Slumdog Millionaire wins Best Picture. I mean, the movie isn’t even SET in America. It features not a single caucasian actor, and much of it isn’t even in English.
If Angelina is nominated for “Changeling,” and Brad is nominated for “Benjamin Button,” their joint appearance at the Oscars telecast–more than Hugh Jackman’s selection as host–will reverse the show’s ratings slide during the past several years.
That’s what really matters here, folks.
JMS
You are cynical.
And you are totally right. (Sigh)
The Oscars are a joke and never reward the films the public really like.
However, you are wrong about Denzel Washington. His Oscar was a “payback” Oscar for being nominated three times and losing (Hurricane, Malcolm X Cry Freedom) Halle Berry’s Oscar was given to mollify. Denzel himself knew it’s all b.s.. Listen carefully to his first line after he won for “Training Day”(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLKDfyFjQtc)
You’re insightful JMS, try not being a bigot.
kate winslet will win best actress in Academy awards