At today's "Produced By" Conference panel Episodic TV: Elements of a Hit, panelists agreed that there's "no such thing" as creating a hit TV series show anymore. "A hit is a show that you manage to keep on the air,” said Bill Lawrence, creator and executive producer of Spin City and Scrubs. He noted that all of the panel members had created scripted shows that received better ratings than American Idol -- but none of those shows are still on the air and AI still is. “What is a hit is something way less transparent than it used to be,” explained Mad Men creator and executive producer Matt Weiner. The bottom line, said panelists, is that your TV show will eventually hit a peak, and then it’s just about holding onto an audience for as long as possible after that. Don't expect your broadcast or cable network to help, either. The Ghost Whisperer executive producing and directing duo of Kim Moses and Ian Sander told a story about when they took the marketing of their show into their own hands (and wallets). After both CBS Television Studios and CBS were too cheap to cover the measly $350 needed to create a little excitement at Comicon before the show came out that fall, the producing pair themselves underwrote the creation of a comic book based on the series that they handed out. -- posted by DHD stringer Rebecca Ford.
'Produced By': Hit & Miss Episodic TV
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What is it with CBS? A big audience commits to a show like Eleventh Hour but they kill it anyway. I know we aren’t their real customers, the advertisers are. But we ARE a part of the equation, and it’s just plain dumb to treat us this way.
Networks are odd with their hit shows. Battlestar Galactica, for example, was by far the biggest hit ever on the Sci Fi channel and they were slavering to get it off the air (extenuating off-the-air circumstances notwithstanding). I think a lot of times when a show’s not “supposed” to be a hit, the network’s thought process is “golly we did good with this one, we’ll do great with the next one!!!” and they marginalize what they have looking for the birds in the bush.
Excuses, Excuses, Excuses.
You want an audience write for black’s and Hispanics.
Put their shows in primetime. You will get the numbers with a black cast or Hispanic cast.
Americans watch 151 hours of tv per month.
Blacks watch allot of TV. They want Black Characters.
See the Radio One Report
Hispanics watch over fifty hours per week of TV.
If you have shows developed for people who want to watch TV you have an audience.
Seinfeld, Friends etc won’t work in today’s reality.
Cosby, Sanford and Son, Girlfriends, George Lopez will beat American Idol and any other crappy reality show any day of the week. Don’t write or produce for your market and yes ” The bottom line, said panelists, is that your TV show will eventually hit a peak, and then it’s just about holding onto an audience for as long as possible after that.”
11 million Cane viewers easily translates into 30 million Lupe’s Cantina viewers (Cheers) or Shaquita’s Fish shop ( Becker)
What is it with CBS? A big audience commits to a show like Eleventh Hour but they kill it anyway. I know we aren’t their real customers, the advertisers are. But we ARE a part of the equation, and it’s just plain dumb to treat us this way.
Comment by Willis — June 7, 2009 @ 4:58 am
Exactly.
18th in the ratings overall & they cancel it? Was it that expensive? Is their relationship w/ J. Bruckheimer after the success of CSI that meaningless? Maybe that’s why “The Forgotten” is @ ABC.
That’s ridiculous. Seinfeld, Friends would work today. Quality is quality. Where do these conclusions come from? The reason there’s no Seinfeld or Friends on the air is because lightning doesn’t often strike. The reason people stopped watching tv is because there’s no Seinfeld or Friends on the air, just garbage and reality.
Someone will come along and do a sensational sitcom and then the lemmings will herald the “rebirth” of the sitcom.
Right and the eager thought of suicide awaits said the Sting.
Let’s start with the real facts from Biz week,
“HUMBLE START. Ironically, Seinfeld was a program NBC barely wanted when it premiered in 1989, and the series’ ratings were middling for years. Director Rob Reiner, head of Castle Rock Entertainment, the show’s producer, had to implore NBC execs to give the show a chance. Despite its humble beginnings, Seinfeld became a hit in 1993, after NBC gave it a break and scheduled it after the popular Cheers on Thursday nights.”
As for Friends, I don’t think any fool let alone a producer would pay anyone 1 million per episode.
‘The stars were paid, per episode, $75,000 in the third season, $85,000 in the fourth, $100,000 in the fifth, and $125,000 in the sixth season. The cast members received salaries of $750,000 per episode in the seventh and eight seasons, and $1 million per episode in the ninth and tenth.’
A final quote from the great Pea on Cock days.
‘That may sound daunting, but Don Ohlmeyer, the head of NBC’s West Coast operations, will tell you the network has gone through all this before. “At the time Cheers announced it was going out of production,” Ohlmeyer says, “there was the same kind of jabberwocky about NBC’s vulnerability. Unfortunately we’re in a business in which opinions are like TV sets–everyone’s got one.” There’s a difference, though, between five years ago and now. Back then, the show waiting in the wings to take Cheers’ place was Seinfeld.’
What’s left of NBC?
‘Thursday
SNL Weekend Update (multi-episode run), 8:00 PM/ET
Parks and Recreation, 8:30 PM/ET
The Office, 9:00 PM/ET
Community, 9:30 PM/ET
(Moves to 8:00 PM/ET after SNL episodes and 30 Rock returns)
The Jay Leno Show, 10:00 PM/ET’