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MF's Jo Beth Williams has asked me to post this reply to U4S leader Ned Vaughn per my, SAG Election: 'Unite For Strength' Slate Releases 'Membership First' Emails:
"When the issue of Qualified/Affected Voting was brought to my attention several months ago, I was interested in knowing more about it. I had always been concerned with what I perceive as a conflict of interest when S.A.G. members who make their living as producers, with active production companies, are allowed to vote on S.A.G. contracts. But after taking a considerable amount of time vetting the issue, I came to the conclusion that Qualified/Affected Voting would not be appropriate for S.A.G. members, given the ups and downs of the actor's life. To disenfranchise so many, just to exclude so few, is not fair and would diminish the strength of our union. This is one of the reasons I fully support Martin Sheen's August 21st letter to the membership."
JoBeth Williams
Screen Actors Guild National Board Member
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You know what this says to me? This says that qualified/affected voting is the only issue that MF has. That’s why they were so spooked by the initial email.
It’s called a “red herring.”
Keep talking about QV/AV and that way they don’t have to talk about the real issue of the election: whether or not a merger makes sense.
God, I hope MF is defeated soundly in this up coming election. They are so divisive and self-destructive and they’re trying to take us all down with them.
Smart people seek answers, ask informed questions. Sometimes, they lean one direction or another on a particular issue. But because they’re intelligent enough to think for themselves and want to make sure they make the right choices–they constantly evaluate what they believe they know. They do this to make informed decisions. It appears Jo Beth Williams is not only a smart woman, but is honest and forthright enough to make her decision process public.
I applaud her for being brave enough to make her decision process public. You don’t have to agree or disagree with Ms. Williams, just recognize her act of being intelligent.
And it doesn’t hurt that she’s also on the right side of QEV issue.
this is all such fucking adolescent bullshit. people are dying in iraq and afghanistan and we’re arguing about qualified fucking voting.
sag needs to fucking cowboy up, cut the anti-mf smack, unite behind our guy and get some shit done. enough with the ny mouth breathers and the branch girl scouts.
you want money when you work? you want a pension? you want residuals? you want to make a living?
if we need to strike to get our rights, then let’s get it the fuck over with.
is anybody out there telling me they’re actually afraid of peter-fucking-chernin?
law of the jungle time. sag strong? aftra weak, punk-ass cowards?
let’s go get ‘em.
Have to admit that I’m a bit disappointed with the myopic scope of MF and its supporters. Really, if you’re going to lie about U4S’s positions because you have NO plan yourself and you’ve been a dismal failure for years now, why limit yourself to the hackneyed lie that U4S is pursuing AMV? How about something like, “U4S plans to kill your babies!” or “U4S wants to surrender to the terrorists!” Surely, that would raise emotions even higher, get more people hysterical and indignant and be a wonderful reason for people to slit their own wri… um, I mean – re-elect MF.
Here’s what I don’t understand: I looked it up and affected membership voting on contracts is written into the SAG constitution. Here’s the relevant part, “…all collective bargaining contracts negotiated by the Guild shall be submitted for ratification to the membership affected thereby.” Those last two words ‘affected thereby’ are key. If the constitution read, “… for ratification to the membership.” then we’d know that it was meant to be voted on by everyone. But that’s not what’s written. Those last two words indicate that affected members should vote on specific contracts that are relevant to them. Pretty straightforward. And here’s where it gets really interesting.
Know who the biggest practitioners of Affected Membership Voting are? Not U4S – those dastardly evil baby-killing commies. Nope. It’s actually Membership First. That’s right. If you’re a SAG member, ask yourself (and demand of Membership First) when was the last time you received a SAG Stunts contract ballot? Anyone? Okay, how about a SAG Animation contract ballot? I’d put good money down that it’s only a tiny minority of the SAG members out there because right now most SAG members don’t receive these ballots UNLESS THEY’VE WORKED THOSE SPECIFIC CONTRACTS. That’s AMV, folks, and that’s the way it’s been done for years on just about every single SAG contract! For MF to raise a hissy fit that U4s wants to pursue a practice that MF has been quietly practicing already for years is the height of hypocrisy! Does no one else see this? What I do see, however, is U4S taking the high road and not making crazy claims that Alan Rosenberg and MF are disenfranchising you of your right to vote on Stunts Contracts. They’re classier. They don’t insult our intelligence by repeatedly screaming the same lies.
I live in California. I don’t get to vote on local matters for Wyoming, Alaska or Nebraska. I do, however, get to vote on California and Federal ballots. That’s what AMV is. MF has been practicing it for years on just about every contract (except for TV/Theatrical and Commercials) and is trying to scare you about the evil, wicked, slimy, unpatriotic U4S group who want to destroy democracy and disenfranchise you of your right as a Californian to vote on Wyoming’s ballots.
Know who else uses AMV? Just about every labor union in America. But what do they know, right? I think the Alans know what’s best! SAG is for Actors only, right? Yeah! Um, never mind that SAG has various non-actor components as well. If SAG is for actors only, what about the background artists, the singers, the stunt workers, etc… Alan, are you going to kick them out of SAG because they’re not “true” actors? Or are you going to keep them in because you know that there’s strength in numbers? What’s fascinating is that MF would have you believe that actors really have more in common with stunt coordinators (whom I admire) than newscasters who every day get into makeup, wardrobe, read a script and perform to a camera for the same 6 powerful entities that employ actors as well. See the continuation of hypocrisy here? This is a fast-moving industry and change is at its core. We performers must ADAPT and keep up with the industry or we will surely be further divided into little bite-sized mini-unions to be devoured by the AMPTP. Keep on defending the typewriter, MF. Pay no attention to those computer type thingies on the horizon. Maybe you could put out a flyer saying that U4S is trying to end the 75 years of proud typewriters by destroying the industry with these new evil computers.
There’s strength in numbers. You don’t see Disney trying to split up from Warner and FOX to negotiate separately. Why? Maybe because their Business Affairs folks and attorneys understand that for all their differences, what they share in common (creating media content for profit) far outweighs those differences. Together, the AMPTP is much stronger than its individual components. When will performers understand that as long as they’re divided, their minor differences pale in comparison to what they share in common – performing content for those 6 mega-corporations. When will we actors finally wise up, fight the AMPTP’s fire with fire, and unite for strength? Oh wait, that’s now.
How long has this laungage been in the Constition? After all that time all the Boards over those years has felt that all members were “affected”. So what is different now?
hey SAG guy
you know what this WHOLE thing says to me?
it says that unite for strength was formed as a way to push forward their
AMV agenda and when they figured out that nobody likes the idea , they put it on the back burner. they haven’t come out and said,
“Okay it was a bad idea.” no, they still think it has merit, but they realize they have to get elected before they can do anything.
so now they’re all about merger. but they haven’t put forth any ideas about how to do that. because they don’t have any ideas about it. they’re just going to repeat MERGE over and over again until it becomes a catch phrase and loses it’s meaning.
in the 2003 attempt AFTRA refused to give up it’s culture in the proposed merger. things like, union presidents being selected at conventions, as AFTRA’s president is, rather than being elected by the membership. sorry that’s not going to work. i want to vote for whomever i think should lead my union.
is MF divisive because it says the contract that’s being offered is harmful to you and all actors?
are we divisive because we believe this contract is a blueprint for the elimination of residuals, residuals that you and 95% of the rest of us actors will need?
the real issue of this election is the contract and how we are the only union left standing trying to get a better deal
Membership First wants all actor’s in one union.
we just don’t want to destroy SAG in the process.
sg
nobody has to lie about U4S’s positions.
they paint themselves into corners with bold statements and then try
to back pedal out of it by saying, “Hey1 We’re all about merger now!”
but they don’t put forth one idea about how to do it.
the whole broadcster/stunt coordinator/ hypocrisy thing?
yeah if if worked as an actor on a NEWS program, i guess i would have more in common with a newscaster than a stuntperson. but i work on movies and television shows, so i work with stunt people, closely, on a regular basis. so that idea is sort of dumb.
all actors in one union is a great idea.
as soon as you start representing too many groups your power is diluted and you are NOT stronger at the negotiating table.
if the baseball players and football players and hockey players
were all represented by one union, it would not benefit any of them.
“But they’re all sports guys!” yeah with different needs.
just remember (this is for people other than SG) that U4S was formed as a way to push forward the AMV agenda, no matter what they say now.
you know who else approves of the AMV idea? the AMPTP.
now why would they want that? because a small group is easier to control.
then SG might say “Well that’s why we have to merge. there will be more of us.”
but every SAG member needs to think long and hard about merging
50/50 with a union that goes for the easy, weak deal EVERY TIME.
I say nice intelligent short response from Ms. Williams.
OH “SG” !!!!!
i did a little research and guess what i found out?
THERE IS NO “STUNT” CONTRACT. oops. guess that’s why no one, including you, has received a “STUNT” contract to vote on.
the stunt provisions are in the Basic Codified Agreement.
it’s an agreement that IN TOTAL affects a “substantial portion” of the membership. and that’s why everyone gets to vote on it.
you brought up the constitution? well let’s go to:
ARTICLE II Section 1
which says when a contract affects a “substantial portion” of the membership, everyone is entitled to vote on it.
ARTICLE II Section 2
which says when there is a contract that does NOT affect a substantial
portion of the membership, it is not sent out for a vote, but rather approved by the National Executive Committee or the board.
an example of THIS would be the ANIMATION contract.
so that’s why you haven’t been able to vote on THAT.
because no one does.
so i’m sorry if you’ve been waiting to vote on a “STUNT CONTRACT”.
but if you have voted on any other contract you have voted on the stunt provisions therein.
so you should feel good about that.
do better homework buddy.
SG,
You’re right on the money! Glad to see someone finally get to the core of this.
SP
Roughly six months ago, when the SAG/AFTRA stuff that UFS is now SO upset about was actually going down, where were the actors who are now UFS candidates? Most are likely dual cardholders. Did even one of these candidates raise their voice, even once, to ask AFTRA to do as they promised and stick with Phase One after they smoked the peace pipe with SAG over at the AFL-CIO?
The UFS candidates couldn’t be bothered. All but three or four – spearheaded by Ned Vaughn and Amy Brenneman – were too busy heavily pushing Affected Member Voting.
Their very public campaign on an entirely unrelated issue, while SAG leadership was admittedly busy, is the classic definition of a red herring.
Fast-forward to August, and the UFS slate, which was born out of the AMV campaign, is now asking actors to believe that they have no interest in pursuing AMV??? It strains credulity, especially as not one candidate on the UFS slate has repudiated AMV. Their own letter, in reference to AMV, says, “Regardless of its merits….”
UFS still believes in AMV; they made a tactical political decision to not pursue it at this time because they sense that AMV is rather unpopular.
Far from being a red herring, it’s fairer to ask if UFS is running a stealth campaign. Do they plan to pursue AMV if elected by claiming the political climate has changed again?
UFS intentionally skipped any mention of AMV in their little manifesto apparently because they were hoping nobody would notice. Next they claimed it was non-issue. When asked about it, UFS candidate Steve Tom reiterated his personal support for AMV. Only after further pressure did the UFS slate implicitly state their continued support for the idea while they denying they intended to pursue it. When pressed further, Mr. Vaughn released a pair of private emails – bad form, sir – and Ms. Brenneman has publicly mischaracterized JoBeth Williams’ position on AMV.
Not even a single UFS candidate has ever held SAG elective office, so the slate has no track record of service whatsoever to run on. All we SAG voters have to judge them by is how they’re running their campaign. As of right now, that pretty much speaks for itself.
All members are affected, because all members have to work a SAG contract to get into the union.
From another thread a little farther down the page:
>>To the comment that the current Board is ineffective in it’s actions: in the past three years MF leadership has opened Board meetings to rank and file membership for greater transparency, formed an Organizing Department for the first time in our 75 year history, formed an emerging technology department, negotiated the first Basic Cable improvements in 25 years, worked to pass tax incentives across the country to bring work back to America, promulgated over 600 internet contracts, helped to defeat a draconian indecency bill that would have saddled every American citizen with a potential $500,000 liability, forged a better than ever working relationship between staff and elected, gotten your residuals delivered to you in thirty days, improved our web site, started i-actor, negotiated pension and health improvements. We also hired perhaps the best NED this union has ever seen. We are also the only ones who have stayed in the negotiating room long enough to uncover just how devastating the AMPTP’s plans for new media will be to actors now and in the future. MF has accomplished all this and much , much more. Not only has MF leadership been highly effective, they have been heroic against extraordinary odds. Learn before you blog.
Comment by jerseykid — August 24, 2008 @ 1:33 pm<<
Harry98,
Thanks for proving my point.
The only people talking about QV/AV are the people of MF. No one has proposed it. No one else is talking about it. It’s being done to deflect attention away from the completely inept way MF has handled our guild.
It’s nothing more than a “red herring” and you know it. It’s just too bad you don’t have the courage to admit as much.
MF is desperate, that much is absolutely certain.
I appreciate Amy B’s input but:
The most important issue is not addressed from either side:
Runaway production.
Ten years ago I saw the work pouring out of California and contacted SAG’s then president about it — nothing was done. His response to me was “I have to get to an audition.” Totally true. Ten years from NOW production will be virtually gone from my home state California and I suspect from the better part of the United States.
I have recently contacted our governor about this problem and his response is “I’m for it, but my hands are tied because The Assembly in Sacramento is against it. This is the beginning of the end for California. It’s the beginning of our state as a welfare state.
SG (on mf’s “scare tactics”)
“U4S wants to surrender to the terrorists!”
Mike Farrell says Membership First are terrorists who want to “highjack the membership and fly them into a building.”
So, does that mean U4S wants to surrender to Membership First?
We accept.
(and, someone, please, get Mike back on his meds)
SAG guy
U4S was formed to promote AMV. it was their reason for being.
then they realized that it’s not a popular idea.
it’s important to remember that these folks were/are all for limiting the voting on contracts to the people who are lucky enough to have steady employment,
because it’s a selfish, arrogant, elitist idea that is wrong on every level.
they say that merger will solve all of our problems, but they don’t have a plan, not one idea as how to go about getting that done.
let’s hear their ideas. how about you SAG guy?
gotta plan?
they say that they want everything that allen and rosenberg are fighting for and more! and that MF has bungled these negotiations.
but they don’t say what they would have done differently or would do now if they were sitting across the table from the AMPTP.
because they don’t know what to do.
if we had merged in 2003, we would be stuck with this lame contract that AFTRA has so proudly accepted. a contract that U4S itself says is unacceptable. i
t wasn’t even as if AFTRA said, “Hey we did the best we could. We didn’t have any leverage.”
no they think it’s great. they call it “GROUNDBREAKING”
this contract that has huge non-union loopholes and could very well eliminate residuals ,,, they think it’s great.
MF is desperate?
here’s a desperate move: sending out two private e-mails that don’t even support the accusations and say,
“Look, there are two people on the other side who wanted to know more about our bad idea. ”
what is U4S saying? about anything?
it’s all,” MF is to blame for everything. we’re the good guys. merge.”
not specific. vague. lame.
To red eye:
“We also hired perhaps the best NED this union has ever seen. ”
This is truly laughaable, Doug Allen has presided over us having NO leverage whatsoever right now. If you think this person from the NFL with no background in entertainment and understanding of this industry is the best our union has ever seen you have obiviously just joined sag. I would say with most of the actors I encounter now, as we talk about our lack of a contract since June 30th and the when things will change, that most feel he is part of the problems we are having not the solution that he should be. A great negotiator just does not get into this position and not map out what to do if he/she does.
T-Rex,
You’ve got one line from one actor in one letter to complain about. We’ve got ten years of inept leadership.
Nice try. It’s just more deflections, more “red herrings.”
harry 98,
Wrong. U4S was formed to unite actors into one union (at the very least come together during negotiations with mutual respect), thus giving us a fighting chance in negotionations against the producers/studios, who wisely have come together to form a single negotiating entity.
How you think any union/labor organization can survive (much less thrive) in a divided way is baffling. Perhaps someone should teach you the concept of “solidarity” and how it works.
This is Labor Politics 101 here.
MF, which came together on the premise that past leaders weren’t tough enough, have failed at every level to deliver anything that they have promised. They routinely cut off their nose to spite their face and it affects the rest of us members of SAG who have to live with the consequences of their inept leadership. So instead of changing tactics, they’ve decided to go on this “scortched earth” strategy against anyone who might disagree with those tactics. Be it SAG in NYC, the branches, AFTRA, you name it.
AV is just a red herring to cover up for the fact that MF has been, and continues to be, a categorical failure on every level.
You know this, but refuse to admit the truth. That says a lot about you and the reason why your precisious MF must go: they refuse to listen to reason or to anyone else.
harry98,
One more thing…
If we had merged in 2003 SAG would now control AFTRA making any side agreement moot since it would never have taken place from the outset.
What a nonsensical argument that was.
Only a member of MF would think that the minority AFTRA would hold any upper hand against the mighty SAG. The majority rules Harry, in this case that means SAG.
Then again, as a member of MF you’re probably use to the idea where a small minority gets to rule over the majority.
SAG guy?
if U4S came together to unite both unions and have the unions
‘at least come together during negotiations with mutual respect’,
where were they when all that stuff was being hashed out in the late winter and early spring? why didn’t they weigh in and try
to smooth over the situation
OH THAT’S RIGHT! at that time they were busy pushing their
lame-assed AMV proposal. that was consuming all their time.
nobody buys the “AMV IS NOT THE REASON WE CAME TOGETHER”
bullshit, SAG guy.
and if we had merged under the 2003 proposal, we would have had one big AFTRA.
AFTRA was loathe to relinquish any of it’s culture and it would have been a 50/50 deal.
and in that situation it only takes one guy like you to push things
down the road of ‘let’s just go along to get along’.
i don’t want to strike.
but as SAG members today, we are standing on the backs of people who came before us and fought for things like health care,
pension plan, and residuals.
the studios never gave us any of that stuff out of the kindness of their hearts. and given a half a chance? they will take it all back.
and i don’t think that AFTRA holds an “UPPER HAND” against SAG.
i think everything that AFTRA has done is rather UNDERHANDED.
where is AFTRA’s solidarity in all this? they blew it.
“I don’t want to strike”
harry98,
Nothing is more pathetic than someone making threats they can’t back up. If MF were to threaten a strike the whole industry would laugh at you. Stop looking for monsters under your bed and accept responsibility for the fact that MF’s abrasive attitude turned many people away and now they are left without any leverage to carry out an effective negotiation. That is what happened.
MF had one strategy and one strategy only: to put off negotiations as long as possible and use the threat of a last minute strike to win concessions. They repeatedly disrespected AFTRA (as they have done so for YEARS now) and as a consequence AFTRA negotiated with the producers on their own, thus undermining SAG’s very strategy.
Negotiations by way of blackmail doesn’t make you strong or tough, it makes you stupid. It’s stupid because typically, as was the case here, you’ve backed yourself into a corner with no means of escape if things go awry. So don’t wimp out now and lay the blame on AFTRA or others for – gasp – having the temerity to refuse to jump off the same cliff you’re willing to jump off. You have no one to blame but yourself here.
As a consequence we, the members of SAG, have been working without a contract for two months and will almost certainly get a terrible deal thanks to the styles and methods of MF. All the complaints about AFTRA or the DGA or the WGA accepting “bad deals” will pale in comparison to the crap sandwich we at SAG are about to eat thanks to you and your friends.
Well done MF, you rock!
No one disagrees with some of the concessions MF seeks like internet and DVD residuals. I support that strongly. It’s the methods that you use which undermine the very goals you seek to accomplish. Everyone can see this except for self-serving members of MF who can’t see that they are part of the problem rather than part of the solution.
So keep playing your “red herring” game if you so desire. I understand that it’s all you have left.
Sag guy
what methods would you use to get the concessions MF wants.
that you want.
that we all want.
what would you do?
how would you go about closing this deal?
I would stop all the boogeyman nonsense and unite with AFTRA, and possibly with the WGA and DGA to form a single negotiating entity that would get us favorable outcomes on residuals and other issues where we share a common interest.
There is strength in unity. A concept MF is unwilling to acknowledge.
After all, that beats incessant whining about the deals they accept on their own, doesn’t it?
Sag guy
first, the DGA will never unite with us over anything.
they are an elite group and they take care of themselves.
that’s it.
you would unite with AFTRA. okay.
but if we had negotiated with AFTRA in a 50/50 split we would have this very deal you say is no good. that’s why leadership proposed
the reprsentational split on the joint committee.
because they knew if it was 50/50 AFTRA would cave and take a weak deal.
as they have.
wow playmaker,
the fact that the studios are making AFTRA deals is nothing to be proud of.
the reason the studios are making AFTRA deals is because AFTRA sold you out.
cut rate deals with give-aways are no guarantee of keeping work in the country.
studios can still choose to make their product in mexico city or
bogota, colombia. they will fly their american actors down there and pay them whatever and then not have to pay residuals.
“I would stop all the boogeyman nonsense and unite with AFTRA, and possibly with the WGA and DGA to form a single negotiating entity that would get us favorable outcomes on residuals and other issues where we share a common interest.”
yes saggy guy – then you click your heels three times and go to kansas.
listen moron. the word is NOW. as in NOW? as in – (you too playmaker, wisdom faker, poo-taker) – IT’S a BAD DEAL.
it doesn’t matter WHEN it was offered, or WHEN SAG asked for what they asked for. IT’S A BAD DEAL.
You both are falling over each other to:
take a bad deal: “you can’t do any better. take the deal. it’s all sag’s fault. ned vaughn would have gotten every member a $1000 cash payment, delivered by sumner redstone personally, residuals for their moms, and health insurance for their dogs.”
what are you – HIGH?
merging with aftra, the dga, the wga? when do you plan on that? and what, in your challenged little minds, makes you think the wga, let alone the dga, would EVER consider merging with a union that features aftra-butt boys like you two?
grow up. it’s a tough world – the amptp wasn’t giving new media to anyone, and, but for membership first and the current negotiating committee of sag, we’d already be stuck in the aftra/wga/dga – amptp fan club give-away of the century.
that rally was a lllloooonnnnggg time ago clay-maker. now? as in NOW? we need a fair contract, the membership is educated as to why, your slate has zero agenda:
they’ve backed away from qualifed voting like the roadkill it is, was, and will always be
they have ZERO idea what they’re doing. they didn’t even KNOW rosenberg and allen remain in place even if they run the table. they have NO shot at getting the suits to change the offer because they say they want THE SAME THING as the current negotiators – “and more!”
and, other than that? it’s merge with aftra, the dga, the wga, the teamsters, the united american jingle association, the international brotherhood of shrubbery, the lower 48 gay mens whiffenpoof guild, and, finally, the eastern facing association of clamdiggers.
well, I wish you good luck. with the merger plans.
and the ass kicking you’re going to get.
“DGA will never unite with us over anything…”
I guess the Amazing Kreskin is a member of MembershipFirst.
MF never saw a “boogeyman” they didn’t like.
T-Rex,
“Saggy guy,” lol. I have a feeling that you’re not a member of the WGA as well. Call it a hunch. You’re argument is nothing more than a series of insults, childish ones at that, that you use to mask the absolute ineptness of MF and which you can not defend in any sort of articulate or reasoned way.
Could you not be at least a little more clever when trying to insult someone with school-yard taunts?
SAG guy,
i think the reason T-Rex hurled all of that stuff at you,
( and some of it was very funny),
is that he is tired of you and the other rabid defenders of
U4S/AFTRA never backing up anything you say with anything other
than your wildly biased and hateful OPINIONS.
you people make extreme claims and accusations and when
you are proven wrong by the record, by facts,
you always fall back to:
“it’s all MF’s fault. you’re gonna get your ass kicked!”
every time one of your accusations is shown to be false, you guys kick and scream and say it’s a big lie and then try and shift the focus somewhere else.
“Could you not be at least a little more clever when trying to insult someone with school-yard taunts?”
saggy guy
you get what you deserve.
T-rek and Harry 98
It’s obvious that your are part of the mf propaganda machine. Remember if you tell a lie often enough it becomes the truth, only here it’s not flying. Ask an extra if they will vote the mf slate the answer would be no. They hate you.
On another note there’s a recent example of competing locals absorbing into one. That would be Local 600 of the IATSE. Three locals New York Chicago and Los Angeles united to form one local that covers all camera work on the US of A. The NY and Chi locals were binded under the LA contract. The monies that they had in their retirement was given to the member to reinvest into iras and 401ks. They got to start their new pensions under the Hollywood agreement, but that’s another story. Yes there was pain at the pump, if you get my drift, but camera is better off for it.
Maybe you should call the camera local and see what is possible. BTW the whole thing was almost derailed by a sitting president who let his ego get the better of him and Tom Short stomped him. In the end it was a good move on cameras part.
Egos have no place in union politics. The very word union is opposite of ego. Leave them at the door
just a thought,
i heard that local 600 took a vote on whether or not to eliminate the provision that guaranteed that a camera operator must be hired on features.
the membership voted NO.
they wanted to keep the guaranteed position.
but then IATSE came in and overturned it.
and now that guaranteed position is gone.
how exactly is that a good move for camera?
is that the pain at the pump you were speaking of?
egos have no place in union politics?
are you trying to tell me tom short doesn’t have an ego?
all of our leaders have to have a little ego or they wouldn’t have the moxie to sit across the table from the suits.
all of the pension stuff you mentioned sounds interesting.
i talked to some extras the other day and they were pro MF.
i guess it depends on who you’re talking to.
and, specifically, what is the ‘lie’ you are referring to?
yes, I am paid member of the mf propaganda machine. I have a card in my wallet. I have a bar code on my foreheard.
just a thug: here’s a real thought: you’re wrong!
and, just so have it straight – what’s the “lie” we’re telling?
and you, apparently, are the president of the extras, and know, “they hate you?” me personally?
methinks you talketh out your ass.
T-rex,
Methinks you are an angry and bitter MFer.
Harry the pain at the pump I was referring to was having to start over with a new pension plan. works great for the younger ones but sucks if your over 45. The vote your talking about it’s the other way around short wanted to give the producer permission to not have an operator on a feature. 600 said no. It came out of a grievance on the first batman movie, the dp wanted to operate the movie without a standby operator.
As for you t-rek I am not a thug, but with your words you have shown yourself to be one. Go out on a set and check the vibe, You might be surprised at what you hear. Unless of course you are guild officers, then of course they will say we are with you.
just a thought,
okay, so tom short wanted to give the producers an option to not
be obligated to hire an operator on a feature and membership voted it down. is that the way it is? because it’s a good thing if the position is maintained, no?
i’m not trying to be flip. i’m asking what you think.
i assume your statement that camera is better off
means that three locals in one union are stronger now that they’re all on the same page.
the problem is that SAG and AFTRA are different unions with different cultures and agendas. at least IATSE has a common culture however different the locals may be. is that so?
or are the regions wildly different?
was your pension plan scrapped and did you start from zero?
if someone over 45 was vested in the old pension
did they lose all of that somehow or was it reduced?
please explain.
Harry
The other regions enjoyed better conditions than us here in hollywood. Things like portal to portal, wet pay, cold pay, the list goes on and on. The way it was sold to the other camera locals was with the word “guild”.
LA thought they could breakaway from the IA and become a guild. Very tasty stuff. I heard a famous DP one night proclaim that without camera there would be no IA. The fact of the matter is that the IA has a charter to provide a camera local. Guild or not the IA rules supreme.
The IA doesn’t have a common culture. The vanities get better deals than the backlot crafts and they think they are better. DP s use to rule the set not any more, with their own excesses they marginalize themselves.
The pension plans didn’t quite mesh just like yours and Aftras. The solution was make them start over in the hollywood plans and give them the money from their old to reinvest on their own.
The sad part of all this is that the other regions that weren’t in camera were forced to adopt hollywood type conditions. All those perks I listed above are gone for mixed locals that exist elsewhere Tom Short in 94 stated that LA film workers were overpaid by at least a 1/3. He did everything he could to bring down our wages. The HBO contract and the long form movie of the week contract reflect that. What he was not willing to do was agree to a federal minimum wage for the internet without the bennies. With the bennies he would have gone for it.
As to what I meant about “lies” its not literal. It’s metaphor that being, if you say something is true enough time then it becomes the truth.
I really don’t know if the Aftra contract is shit because I don’t work in it, the shrillness tells me your trying to scare people into believing it is shit. What I do know that in the 20’s in Germany most people didn’t think Jews were a problem, but when Gerbils finished “it’s misspelled on purpose”, what a menace. I am not equating you with them but to me it seems you use the same techniques, which in as itself is okay. I’m a smart guy.
The real irony here is that when all this camera stuff came down I was working on a show that Jo-Beth starred in.
Goodnight Harry I hoped I answered some of your questions. Sorry for the late post but I worked until 3 am making you SAG people look good. That makes me feel good.
just a thought,
thanks for the info and best of luck with the new IA leadership.
as far as being shrill? yeah, guilty i guess.
i just get a little amped up when a so called sister union takes a deal
that guarantees actors will get screwed in new media, which is where everything is headed and much quicker than people think.
i get a little crazy when people want to merge with the same folks who have been undercutting our contracts in cable.
there are people who would rather see the current leadership fail than get a better deal. what does that tell you?
i know that none of this is your concern.
for what it’s worth, i love being on the set more than just about anything. i’ve been doing this for over 25 years. i appreciate that the whole thing comes together because of
a bunch of people with distinct and specific talents.
we all work on the same movies and shows and i appreciate and am grateful for everything that everyone in every department does
to make me look good.
peace.
To SAG guy and SG,
This is from NIkki Finke’s Deadline Hollywood
Petition Drive Leaders Have Met With SAG
Now that the writers strike is truly behind Hollywood, I’m turning my attention as much as possible to the actors’ upcoming contract negotiations with Hollywood CEOs. Already, Variety is using its Page One bully pulpit to pressure SAG leadership to begin talks with the moguls because the studios are “refusing” to schedule new start dates on films that can’t complete shooting by June 30. (See my previous, Spielberg Delays Start Of ‘Chicago 7′ Due To “Uncertainty Over A SAG Strike”. Variety sure did…) But SAG has some internal business to dispose of, first. And I have news about one issue: that controversial petition drive lobbying the Screen Actors Guild leadership for an earnings threshold requirement for “qualified voting” on the union’s contract issues.
I’ve been told that the leading actors behind the petition drive, including Amy Brenneman and Ned Vaughn, met last week with SAG president Alan Rosenberg about it. I have more comprehensive info about their proposal. And some new and weighty names have been added to the list of signers, including Meryl Streep. The group even has their own gmail account. (For an opposing viewpoint, see Ron Livingston’s):
From: Amy Brenneman & Ned Vaughn
To: Concerned SAG & AFTRA Members
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008
Subject: UPDATE: Our meeting with SAG leadership.
To our colleagues,
We had a promising and productive meeting with President Rosenberg and NED Doug Allen at SAG offices Wednesday afternoon. There was frank discussion and an open exchange of views; best of all, after hearing our presentation, President Rosenberg agreed that this idea has gained enough traction that it should be considered by the Board in time for the upcoming contract vote.
Your support—over 1000 names and counting—caused the leadership to listen far more intently. Our next task is to convince SAG’s National Board, and that will be our focus. Your support is our greatest asset and must continue to grow. Below is our last letter and updated supporters list—check it for your friends and colleagues and if you don’t see their names, reach out to see if they want to join us.
We are also pursuing this issue with the leadership at AFTRA, so that ALL working performers have an effective voice in the contract decisions that directly impact their lives and livelihoods.
Sincerely,
Amy Brenneman & Ned Vaughn
The petition drive says its effort is “to strengthen SAG by giving working performers an effective voice in the upcoming contract negotiation.” In the first two weeks, over 1000 supporters from SAG’s membership added their names to the petition. (SAG has a membership of 120,000,) The group’s goal is to bring this matter to SAG’s board for resolution prior to the TV/Theatrical contract negotiation. “The Board needs to reasonably define ‘affected’ members—those eligible to vote on the contract.” Here is what the petition drive proposes, quoting from an earlier email from Amy Brenneman and Ned Vaughn:
“For TV/Theatrical contract voting, an affected member is any member in good standing who over the previous 2 contract terms (6 years), or total years as member if less than 6 years:
1. Performed an average of 5 days principal work or 15 days background work per year (or an equivalent mix thereof); or
2. Had average residual earnings per year equivalent to 5 principal days at scale; or
3. Is fully vested in the SAG Producers Pension Plan.
We believe this reasonably takes into account the ups and downs of the business for currently working members, and is flexible enough to include members who, while perhaps not currently working, still have a concrete stake in the negotiations.
You may hear this effort criticized as ‘elitist’, but the response from our supporters suggests otherwise. They include many SAG members who wouldn’t vote on some contracts under this structure—but who recognize the power of putting contract decisions in the hands of members who work those contracts. Like a young LA member, who wrote that she ‘would be happy for you to add my name although I definitely count among those not affected’. Or the commercial performer who ‘has not yet worked under SAG’s TV/Theatrical contract, but…completely understand[s] the need for this change’. And a member in Baltimore who says, ‘Way to go. Please sign me up. And even I shouldn’t vote on contracts I don’t work under often enough!’
We hope you will continue to spread the word. We are also reaching out to AFTRA to schedule discussions and will keep you apprised of our progress.
Here are the names who have signed the petition:
Caroline Aaron, Brooke Adams, Hayden Adams, Paul Adelstein, Joanna P. Adler, Charlie Adler, Matt Adler, Ben Affleck, Lori Alan, Shari Albert, Brad Aldous, Jace Alexander, Jason Alexander, Manny Alfaro, Richard Allison, Chris Allport, Ryan Alosio, Bruce Altman, Hira Ambrosino, Steve Amerson, Morgan Ames, Sandy Ames, Kurt David Anderson, Teja Anderson, Jill Andre, David Andriole, Karin Anglin, Floanne Ankah, Nicole Ansari, Christina Applegate, Amy Aquino, Anne Archer, Al Dana Arioli, Adam Arkin, Michael Arkin, Rosanna Arquette, Michelle Arthur, Philip Ashley, Jennifer Aspen, Essence Atkins, Jayne Atkinson, Scott Atkinson, René Auberjonois, John Augustine, Hank Azaria,
James Babbin, Dave Bachman, Conrad Bachmann, Kevin Bacon, Greg Baglia, Jordan Baker, Becky Ann Baker, Dee Bradley Baker, Dylan Baker, Shaun Baker, Bob Balaban, George Ball, Edoardo Ballerini, Talia Balsam, Briel Banks, Adrienne Barbeau, Ted Barbra, Jennifer Barnes, Ken Barnett, Anita Barone, Justin Barrett, Robin Bartlett, Bobbie Bates, Kathy Bates, Brian Baumgartner, Samela Beasom, Graham Beckel, Ed Begley Jr, Peter Beitmayer, Catherine Bell, Ned Bellamy, Jane Beller, Nellie Bellflower, Maria Bello, Nat Benchley, Bob Bergen, Erik Bergmann, Xander Berkeley, Chopper Bernet, Corbin Bernsen, Octavio Gómez Berrios, Kay Bess, Patricia Bethune, Tom Beyer, David Bickford, Jessica Biel, Craig Bierko, Mary Birdsong, Raye Birk, Joshua Biton, Robin Bittman, Lewis Black, Geoffrey Blake, Susan Blakely, Mark Blum, Alan Blumenfeld, Joan Bogden, Heidi Bohay, Chip Bolcik, Patrick Boll, Philip Bosco, Jeff Bottoms, Andrea Bowen, Cameron Bowen, Alex Bowen, Graham Bowen, Jillian Bowen, Tom Bozell, Jim Bracchitta, Eric Bradley, Jim E Brady, John E Brady, Barbara Bragg, Kenneth Branagh, Leanna Brand, Alicia Brandt, Lucia Brawley, Patrick Breen, Peter Breitmayer, Amy Brenneman, Nick Brett, Paget Brewster, Kevin Brief, David Brisbin, Brent Briscoe, Connie Britton, Bill Brochtrup, Ivar Brogger, Sally Brooks, Clancy Brown, Lynne Marie Brown, PJ Brown, Robert Curtis Brown, Brianna Brown, Dylan Bruno, Jon Bruno, Ian Buchanan, Ralph Buckley, Angela Bullock, Will Burke, Kate Burton, Rebeccah Bush, Bill Butler, Ronald R Butler, Ralph Byers, Amick Byram,
Larry Cahn, Dean Cain, Robert Cait, Jonathan Cake, L Scott Caldwell, K Callan, Dean Cameron, Ken Hudson Campbell, Julia Campbell, Mario Cantone, Geoffrey Cantor, Andrew Caple-Shaw, Angela Cappelli, Jessica Capshaw, Nestor Carbonell, Lou Carbonneau, Tom Carey, Andrew Carillo, Barry Carl, Amada Carlin, Brian Carney, Anne Carney, Geneva Carr, Lizette Carrion, Carmen Carter, Gabrielle Carteris, Veronica Cartwright, Francesca Casale, Philip Casnoff, Paul Cassell, Luna Catarevas, Reg E Cathey, Dominic Catrambone, Joe Cerisano, Michael Cerveris, Esther Chae, Kathleen Chalfant, Nancy Linehan Charles, Erika Christensen, Paul Christie, Debra Christofferson, Susan Chuang, Gordon Clapp, Sarah Clarke, Christian Clemenson, Robert Clendenin, Eric Close, Glenn Close, Scott Cohen, Enrico Colantoni, Jack Coleman, Townsend Coleman, Denise Alexander Colla, Stephen Collins, Patrick Collins, Maria Cominis, Mary Ann Conk, Jack Conley, Brian Connors, Dan Conroy, Linda O Cook, Jane Cooke, Vincent Corazza, Dave Corey, Maddie Corman, Michael Cornacchia, Brian Corrigan, Brian Cox, John Henry Cox, Richard Cox, Peter Coyote, Wendell Craig, Bryan Cranston, Ellen Crawford, Randy Crenshaw, Tandy Cronyn, Merrilyn Crouch, Ashley Crow, Phil Crowley, Jon Cryer, Suzanne Cryer, Steven Culp, Todd Cummings, Michael Cumpsty, Leigh Curran, Jane Curtin, Jamie Lee Curtis, Ann Cusack, Ryan Cutrona,
Tim Dadabo, Tim Daly, Malcolm Danare, Beverly D’Angelo, Duane Daniels, Carol Danilowicz, Elizabeth Dann, Blythe Danner, Kenny D’Aquila, Allison Daugherty, Kelly Deadmon, Laura Dean, Tim DeKay, Mark Deklin, Trista Delamere, Yasmine Delawari, Pete DeMeo, Brian Dennehy, James Denton, Mark Derwin, Frank Dicopoulos, Olivia Anderson Dicopoulos, Jaden Anderson Dicopoulos, Jason Dietz, Garret Dillahunt, Valerie Dillman, Melinda Dillon, Heidi Dippold, Melissa Disney, Deb Doetzer, Jason Dohring, Andrew Dolan, Patrice Donnell, Elisa Donovan, Tate Donovan, Erin Donovan, Steve Downes, Minnie Driver, Cece DuBois, David Duchovny, Ilona Dulaski-Williams, James DuMont, Jennifer Dundas, Kevin Dunn, Griffin Dunne, Wayne Duvall,
James Eckhouse, Stacy Edwards, Edward Edwards, Michael Edwin, Chris Eigeman, David Eigenberg, Helen Eigenberg, Ned Eisenberg, Jenna Elfman, Bodhi Elfman, Rob Elk, Greg Ellis, Chris Ellis, Michael Emerson, Linda Emond, Troy Evans, Justine Eyre,
Patrick Fabian, Bill Fagerbakke, Bill Fairbairn, Morgan Fairchild, Caroline Farah, Ronnie Farer, Kevin Farley, Diane Farr, Robert Farrior, Ron Fassler, Meagen Fay, Sally Field, Iris Fields, John Finn, Jennifer Finnigan, Kate Flannery, John Fleming, John J. Fleming, Louise Fletcher, Calista Flockhart, Colleen Flynn, Jackie Flynn, Dan Fogler, Sam Fontana, Nicole Forester, Cedering Fox, Alison Fraser, Wendy Fraser, Sam Freed, Roger Freeland, Peter Friedman, Kurt Fuller, Dan Futterman,
Jane Gabbert, Boyd Gaines, Joseph Gallagher, David Gallagher, Tim Gallin, Anitha Gandhi, Chris Gannon, Gloria Gantt, Victor Garber, Jeff Garlin, Jennifer Garner, Spencer Garrett, Brad Garrett, Stephanie Garry, Willie Garson, Anne Gartlan, Larry Gelman, Jane Gennaro, David Gennaro, Mike Genovese, Jason Winston George, Brian Geraghty, Jay Gerber, Peter Gerety, John Getz, Stephen Gevedon, Marcus Giamatti, Nicholas Giangiulio, Cynthia Gibb, Shelly Gibson, Thomas Gibson, John Gidcomb, Richard Gilbert-Hill, Nancy Giles, Jen Giles, Peri Gilpin, Dan Gilvezan, Mary Pat Gleason, Joanna Gleason, Traci Godfrey, Joanna Going, Marcy Goldman, Lisa Ann Goldsmith, Tony Goldwyn, Carlos Gomez, Rick Gomez, Eli Goodman, Eve Gordon, Joyce Gordon, Milena Govich, Randy Graff, Curry Graham, Vince Grant, David Marshall Grant, Faye Grant, Sheri Graubert, Chad Tyler Green, Mary-Pat Green, Michele Greene, Graham Greene, David Greenman, Brad Greenquist, Melissa Greenspan, Clark Gregg, Googy Gress, Joel Gretsch, Jennifer Grey, Joe Grifasi, Frank Grillo, Malcolm Groome, Arye Gross, Julianne Grossman, Saverio Guerra, Christopher Guest, Paul Guilfoyle, Bob Gunton, Jeff Gurner, Annabelle Gurwitch,
Jeanie Hackett, Marianne Hagan, Molly Hagan, Debbie R Hall, Robert David Hall, Edd Hall, Julie Halston, Sarah Hamilton, Jim Hanks, Marcia Gay Harden, Melora Hardin, Mark Harelik, Tom Harges, Mariska Hargitay, Brian Hargrove, Linda Harmon, John Harnagel, Jason Butler Harner, Karen Harper, Tess Harper, Cynthia Harris, Danneel Harris, Neil Patrick Harris, Jason Harris, Gregory Harrison, Kathryn Harrold, Roxanne Hart, Mariette Hartley, Teri Hatcher, Christopher Hatfield, Ethan Hawke, Kelly Hawthorne, Cathy Lind Hayes, Sheila Head, Christine Healy, Patricia Heaton, Gina Hecht, Paul Hecht, David Heckel, Helen Hedman, Mike Heintzman, Tricia Helfer, Florence Henderson, Eileen Henry, Peter Hermann, Catherine Hicks, Dulé Hill, Skip Hinnant, Judith Hoag, Bari Hochwald, Mike Hodge, Ed Hodson, Jackie Hoffman, Chris Hogan, Dorian Holley, Johnny Holliday, Kaitlin Hopkins, Monica Horan, J R Horne, Peter Horton, Jacquelyn Houston, Ken Howard, Charles Howerton, Tony Hoylen, David Hunt, Helen Hunt, Linda S Hurd, Michelle Hurd, Kieren Hutchison,
Ray Iannicelli, Laura Innes, Michael Ironside, Gregory Itzin, Zeljko Ivanek, Dana Ivey, Edith Ivey, Sheri Izzard,
Marc Jablon, Luana Jackman, Jill Jackson, Hank Jacobs, Peggy Jo Jacobs, Peter Francis James, Angie Jaree, Brian Jarvis, Dawn Jeffory-Nelson, Lucinda Jenney, Jennifer Jiles, Kristen Johnson, Lauri Johnson, Bob Joles, Eddie Jones, Jeffrey Jones, Richard T Jones, Kathryn Joosten, Jackie Joseph, Robert Joy, Mary Joy, Bob Joyce, David Joyce, Susan Boyd Joyce, Jon Joyce,
Jane Kaczmarek, Ilyana Kadushin, Rick Kain, Kirsten Kairos, Bob Kaliban, Melina Kanakaredes, Tom Kane, Mandy Kaplan, Jay Karnes, Elizabeth Karr, John Kassir, Cindy Katz, Bruce Katzman, David Kaufman, Zoe Kazan, Kathy Keane, Larry Keith, Barnet Kellman, Mary Ann Kellogg, David Kelsey, Lori Kennedy, Heather Paige Kent, Janice Kent, Joanna Kerns, Linda Kerns, Patrick Kerr, Judy Kerr, Kelle Kerr, Brian Kerwin, Amy Kiehl, Chris Kies, Kevin Kilner, Colette Kilroy, Matthew Kimbrough, Richard Kind, Andy Kindler, Regina King, Dani Klein, Dick Klinger, Kathryn Klvana, Shirley Knight, Wayne Knight, Jon Kohler, David Konig, Thomas Kopache, Randy Kovitz, Jason Kravitz, Susan Krebs, Catherine Kresge, Sara Krieger, Kirsten Krohn, David Krumholtz, Muriel Kuhn, Shishir Kurup, Clyde Kusatsu,
Don LaFontaine, Christine Lakin, Maurice LaMarche, Phil LaMarr, Jerry Lambert, Wendy Lamond, Norma Lana, Katherine LaNasa, Jack Landron, Lilas Lane, Nathan Lane, Diane Lane, Susan Lange, Anne Lange, Linda Larkin, Dan Lauria, Lucy Lawless, James Kyson Lee, Laura Leighton, Neal Lerner, Susan Leslie, Matt Letscher, Eugene Levy, Geoffrey Lewis, Lisa Lewis, Dawnn Lewis, Henry Martin Leyva, Richard Libertini, Jason Lifton, Diane Ligon, Paul Linke, Mark Linn-Baker, Becca Lish, Sharline Liu, Marty Lodge, Lisa Long, Rob Lowe, James Lurie, Matt Lutz, Will Lyman, John Carroll Lynch, Elena Lyons,
Marguerite MacIntyre, Peter Mackenzie, JC Mackenzie, Peter MacNicol, Peter Macon, Bruce MacVittie, Roma Maffia, Michael C Mahon, Wendy Makkena, Josh Malina, Matt Malloy, Camryn Manheim, Dinah Manoff, JP Manoux, Joe Mantegna, Henriette Mantel, Michael Mantell, Katie Maquire, Stephanie March, David Marciano, Julianna Margulies, Peter Michael Marino, Lily Mariye, Jodie Markell, Abigail Marlowe, Ali Marsh, Dave Marsh, Paula Marshall, Sandy Martin, Benito Martinez, Greg Marx, Michelle Maryk, Madison Mason, Christopher Kennedy Masterson, Danny Masterson, Michael Mastro, Richard Masur, Eric Matheny, Samantha Mathis, Dakin Matthews, Danny McBride, Bill McCarty, Jim McCauley, Ron McClary, Mike McColl, Kevin McCorkle, Mary McCormack, Matt McCoy, Paul McCrane, Arnold McCuller, Lynne McCune, George McDaniel, Mary McDonald-Lewis, Mary McDonnell, Theresa McElwee, Brian McFadden, Bruce McGill, Catherine McGoohan, Peter McHugh, Raymond McKinnon, Rod McLachlan, Todd McLaren, Don McManus, Kathleen McNenny, Charlie McWade, Donna Medine, Annie Meisels, Randy Mell, Christopher Meloni, Nick Mennell, Michael Merton, Tamra Meskimen, Jim Meskimen, Debra Messing, Laurie Metcalf, Nancy Meyer, Christopher Michael, Tracy Middendorf, Dash Mihok, Andy Milder, Daya Vaidya Miller, Taylor Miller, Kate Miller, Andrew Elvis Miller, Candi Milo, Michael Mislove, Beverley Mitchell, Alfred Molina, Janel Moloney, Wendy Moniz, Michael Monks, Mary Elaine Monti, Peter Moore, Christopher Liam Moore, Rob Moran, Tina Morasco, Jill Moray, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Nancy Morgan, Elise Morris, Sarah Jane Morris, James Morrison, Sue-Anne Morrow, Marianne Muellerleile, Jack Mulcahy, Dermot Mulroney, Warren Munson, Christopher Murney, Harry S. Murphy, Joel Murray, Jim Murtaugh, Pat Musick,
Joe Narciso, Geoffrey Nauffts, James Naughton, Dan Navarro, Kevin Nealon, David Negahban, Shawn Nelson, John Allen Nelson, Ted Neustadt, David Newsom, John Newton, Marisol Nichols, Hazzir Noble, Elisabeth Noone, Jeffrey Nordling, Nolan North, Judy Norton, Chris Noth,
Steven Ogg, Gail O’Grady, Kathleen O’Grady, Jenny O’Hara, Jim O’Heir, Michael O’Keefe, Ken Olin, Jason O’Mara, Kristen O’Meara, Timothy Omundson, Michael O’Neill, Brian O’Neill, Janice O’Neill, Peter Onorati, Terry O’Quinn, Daniel Oreskes, Kevin O’Rourke, Laura Owens,
Bobbi Page, Johnny Palermo, Gwyneth Paltrow, Tina Panella, Stuart Pankin, John Pankow, Paul Pape, Adrian Pasdar, Tony Pasqualini, Jason Patric, Robert Patrick, Jay Patterson, Richard Joseph Paul, Rob Paulsen, Daniel Pearce, Barry Pearl, Joyce Peifer, Michael Pena, Don Peoples, Elizabeth Perkins, Jeff Perry, Melissa Peterman, Mary Peterson, Maggie Phillips, Ethan Phillips, Bijou Phillips, Cindy Pickett, Christina Pickles, Eric Pierpoint, Tonya Pinkins, Maria Pitillo, David Pittu, Maryann Plunkett, Mike Pniewski, Henry Polic II, Liza Politi, Jon Polito, Kevin Pollack, Toby Poser, Jay Potter, Annie Potts, Linda Powell, Kelly Preston, Terri Price, Jason Priestley, Freddie Prinze Jr, Harry Pritchett, Phil Proctor, Ray Proscia, David Purdham,
Michael Rady, William Ragsdale, Sara Ramirez, Patricia Randell, Dileep Rao, Dale Raoul, David Rasche, Jeremy Ratchford, Bill Ratner, Shelagh Ratner, Matthew Rauch, Joyce Reehling, Paul Reggio, Jim Remke, Gloria Reuben, Matthew Rhys, Giovanni Ribisi, Sy Richardson, Beth Riesgraf, Michael Rispoli, Huntley Ritter, Laila Robbins, Tony Roberts, Andy Robinson, NiCole Robinson, Mike Rock, Sam Rodd, Channon Roe, Daniel Roebuck, Jane Rogers, Regan Rohde, Mark Rolston, Stephen Root, Cristine Rose, Peter Pamela Rose, Romy Rosemont, Neil Ross, Clarinda Ross, Jennifer Roszell, Karly Rothenberg, John Rothman, Kelly Rowan, Brady Rubin, Mark Ruffalo, Scott Rummell, Mitchell Ryan,
Katee Sackhoff, Alan Safier, Katey Sagal, Laura Sametz, Beverly Sanders, Jay O Sanders, Miguel Sandoval, Sibyl Santiago, Chris Sarandon, Doug Savant, Marcia Savella, John Saxon, Rick Scarry, Elizabeth Schofield, Liev Schreiber, Catherine Schreiber, Woody Schultz, Armand Schultz, Rusty Schwimmer, Ann Scobie, Kimberly Scott, Carol Scudder, Kevin Scullin, Nick Searcy, Craig Sechler, Kyra Sedgwick, Brent Seltzer, Brent Sexton, Carolyn Seymour, Matt Shakman, Tony Shalhoub, Mike Shapiro, William Shatner, David Shatraw, Grant Shaud, Jack Shaw, Harry Shearer, Bev Sheehan, Charlie Sheen, Marley Shelton, Ben Shenkman, W Morgan Sheppard, Jamey Sheridan, Todd Sherry, Tom Shillue, Armin Shimerman, Grant Show, Elisabeth Shue, Adam Sietz, Susan Silo, Jonathan Silverman, Frank Simms, Gary Sinise, John Slattery, David Slavin, Tommy Smeltzer, Cate Smit, Ashton Smith, Brooke Smith, Hillary B Smith, Phyllis Smith, Sheldon Smith, Peter James Smith, Tucker Smith, Bill Smitrovich, Rena Sofer, Marla Sokoloff, Matthew Solari, Stacy Solodkin, Jim Soriero, David Spade, Joe Spano, Richard Speight Jr, Debra Sperling, Howard Spiegel, Beng Spies, Avhi Spindell, Alice Spivak, Suanne Spoke, Michael Spound, Jerry Sroka, David St James, Tim Stack, Michelle Stafford, David Starzyk, Todd Stashwick, Wayne Steadman, Mandy Steckelberg, Bob Stephenson, Jenna Stern, Nicole Stewart, French Stewart, Eric Stitt, Andre Stojka, Marcia Strassman, David Strathairn, Hank Stratton, Meryl Streep, KaDee Strickland, Sherry Stringfield, Brenda Strong, Craig Strong, Tara Strong, Geoff Stults, George Stults, Elizabeth Sung, Ethan Suplee, Todd Susman, Kristine Sutherland, Donald Sutherland, Claudette Sutherland, Traci Swain, Barret Swatek, Kitty Swink, Keith Szarabajka, Eric Szmanda,
Jeffrey Tambor, James Arnold Taylor, Holland Taylor, Mark L Taylor, John Terry, Randy Thomas, Grant Thompson, Tracy Thorne, Peggy Thorp, Rebecca Tilney, Barton Tinapp, Paula Tiso, Steve Tom, Keri Tombazian, Rich Topol, Robert Torti, Edward Tournier, Sam Trammell, Stacey Travis, Adrian Tridel, Connor Trinneer, Lori Tritel, Jim Troesh, Toni Trucks, Nicole Tubiola, Maria Tucci, Jessica Tuck, Michael Tucker, Jonathan Tucker, Tamara Tunie, Paige Turco, Jim Turner, Carmen Twillie, Chad Tyler, Nikki Tyler-Flynn,
Skeet Ulrich, Gabrielle Union, Leslie Upson, Johann Urb,
Joan Valentina, Jennifer Van Dyck, Joyce Van Patten, Eric Van Wyck, Mary VanArsdel, Cynthia Vance, Dana Vance, Oliver Vaquer, Ned Vaughn, Terri J. Vaughn, Yul Vazquez, Milo Ventimiglia, Victor Verhaege, Tom Verica, Kate Vernon, Maura Vincent, Steve Vinovich,
Melinda Wade, Polly Walker, Ann Walker, Marcia Wallace, Keliher Walsh, Dylan Walsh, Kate Walsh, Melora Walters, Lisa Waltz, Anna Michelle Wang, Linda Wang, Jamie C. Ward, Todd Waring, Julie Warner, Mervyn Warren, Kerry Washington, Allan Wasserman, Barry Watson, Chloe Webb, Jake Weber, Steven Weber, Travis Webster, Fred Weller, Dick Wells, Richard K. Wells, George Wendt, John West, Tegan West, Travis Wester, Patricia Wettig, Bernard White, Cheryl White, Mitchell Whitfield, Vivicca Whitsett, Karl Wiedergott, Kathleen Wilhoite, Fred Willard, Delaney Williams, Eyvonne Williams, Kelli Williams, Treat Williams, Rainn Wilson, Hattie Winston, Jeff Winter, Sally Winters, Daniel Wisler, Roz Witt, Julie Wittner, Tory Wood, Shannon Woodward, Jimmie D. Wright, Karl T. Wright, Tom Wright, Kari Wuhrer, Teresa Wyatt, Noah Wyle,
Dwight Yoakam, Catherine York, Kathleen York, Judy Young, Barrie Youngfellow, Harris Yulin,
Grace Zabriskie, Janet Zarish, Liz Zazzi, Alicia Ziegler, Anna Zielinski, Chip Zien, Liz Zweifler