The biggest problem with Joaquin Phoenix's act right now is that it's not helping the Magnolia movie coming out Friday. Yes, I know people say that all publicity is good publicity. But film marketing is a craft, and there's nothing crafty about Joaquin squandering PR opportunities like his media interviews or his mute appearance on David Letterman last night. (See my previous, Joaquin Phoenix Ends Career...On Dave?) His Two Lovers director James Gray spoke to Phoenix after his appearance on The Late Show. "He said, 'Oh it was good, it was really good.' I watched it this morning... I don't know what to say." Because who wants to see the romance film if the talented actor has turned into such a jerk? Grey doesn't seem to know if this is a hoax, and the joke's on all of us, and the actor is just goofing for Casey Affleck's mockumentary on him and his supposed foray into the rap music biz. On the other hand, Gray says Phoenix has built a music studio in his home. Gray is telling ABC News Radio he's baffled by Phoenix's behavior. "If it is an act, it's the most committed act I've ever seen in my life."
Gray said Phoenix's fatigue with acting was obvious while filming Two Lovers. "Toward the end of the shoot, he kept saying, 'Oh I'm so tired, I'm so tired.' You hear that kind of thing and you think it's a joke. I just ignored it." So when Gray, who also worked with Phoenix on 2000's The Yards and 2007's We Own the Night, found out via the Internet that Phoenix had vowed never to act again, "I drove up to his house because his phone was disconnected. 'I don't want to act anymore, I've been doing it for 30 years and if you did something for 30 years, you'd want to quit too.'" Now, Gray wonders if he's responsible for Phoenix's decision to quit acting and take up rapping. Two Lovers features an awkward freestyle rap performance by Joaquin, and Gray believes the actor is imitating him. "I had an obsession with doing that sort of thing as a teenager. It turns out that Joaquin is imitating me in a lot of the movie. He said, 'I want to do that, I want to steal from that, I want to do the rap that you used to do.' I said, 'OK.' And now I'm seeing him do this thing, and I feel like I've ruined Joaquin Phoenix for the world. I don't want to be the guy that destroyed Joaquin Phoenix's acting career."


Stupified, that’s all I can say. No one could possibly want this type of publicity intentionally, I see a HUGE crash coming, and it is going to take a life.
This is all rather much ado about nothing. Who really cares if Phoenix acts again? Had he made anything memorable? In a year who will even know who he is? His brother River at least made ‘My Own Private Idaho.’ I’m not sure ‘Walk The Line’ or this Gwen Paltrow movie really carry the same gravitas. And who really cares who James Gray is. He’s a USC film student who makes really derivative movies. Please, give me a break.
Who cares? Acting is an honorable profession, stardom is a gift, and Joaquin Phoenix is no Garbo. Let him go; he is nothing. The Conservative-owned media are dwelling on this asshole so the public doesn’t focus on the real issues that confront America like George Bush’s war crimes, the stolen economy, and the way our work force has been enslaved by multi-national overlords. Hoax or not, Phoenix disses the people who worked hard to make “The Lovers” and shows contempt for the public, not to mention his dead brother who had respect for his chosen craft.
Good lord, James. If doing an imitation of you messing around as a kid is what crashed Phoenix’s acting career, then rest assured it wasn’t you who did the damage. Someone else did a long time ago.
I fear for us all if Joaquin’s commitment to emulating the life of James Gray results in yet another middling auteur clogging our screens with juvenile faux-noir. That kind of prank just isn’t funny.
Wow, I didn’t even occur to me the repercussion his behavior would have on a movie (granted, I didn’t know he HAD a movie). I guess last night truly WAS the end of Phoenix’s career, joking or not, no one’s going to want to hire an actor who fucks up a movie’s marketing (and a small indie that can barely afford to BE marketed at that!)
Clearly Mr. Gray is in on the prank.
Ok Nostradamus, any other predictions?
Publicity stunt… Get over it!
The director’s in on it, too. Duh. Or he’s a TOTAL FUCKING NARCISSIST. That would be a surprise, no?
Last night Joaquin crossed in “Bennifer” or Farrah territory and just made his new movie the GIGLI of 2009.
He has forgotten that a star in music or movies needs to be liked by his fans to make it all work.
If it’s an act, it’s stupid.
If it’s not an act, he’s stupid.
If I was the studio I would put a halt to all his publicity stops before more damage is done to their (and the stockholders) intellectual property.
This movie will be the perfect swan song then, the trailer looks unwatchable, just like his Letterman ‘performance’.
I’m so tired too, of Joaquin Phoenix.
When an actor as prolific and marketable as Phoenix gets a real job and struggles to feed his family for 30 years, then I’ll care about his whining. (No disrespect to any working actor who’s trying to eek out a living. You guys truly are working at making something and not riding the coat tails of your dead brother’s name.)
That said, if this is all an act, this is awesome.
Actors come back from bad talk-show appearances all the time. Look at Tom Cruise. Sure, some of us won’t go to his movies anymore, but he’s still got a career.
Clearly, Phoenix was ripped in his interview on Letterman.
Any Kaufman reference is wishful thinking. He, or Affleck lite aren’t that smart.
The guy is in Jim Morrison, River Phoenix territory.
Tombstone???
Well I think every move he makes is hilarious and I appreciate his attempt to liven up “celebrity.”
If he and Casey are having fun, then more’s the better.
I like him more for this. I never would have guessed he was funny, given his body of work.
HMMM…it’s almost like James Gray is admitting Joaquin’s little pageant/meltdown/transition is more exciting and involving that the movie itself. He really sounds worked into a lather in those last couple of quotes.
But JP on Letterman made me laugh — even if it horrifed his director anrd the poor folks who bankrolled the movie at Magnolia.
I hope his album kicks ass.
Don’t you all see Nikki’s in on this, too??
Buddy Bing:
The conservative owned media? Would that be the New York Times, Los Angeles Times, ABC, ABC, NBC, CNN? Or maybe you mean Jon Stewart, Steven Colbert; the quasi-news shows.
There is Fox News, so I guess you’re right.
Joaquin Phoenix is the guy who destroyed Joaquin Phoenix’s career.
If this is a publicity stunt, it’s going to backfire big-time. I have no desire to see this movie after this guy has acted like such a fool.
News Flash, it’s not all about you James!
Dear Andy — Thanks for taking the bait. By “Conservative” I mean NewsAmerica, GE, Tribune, ABC/Disney, TimeWarner, and Viacom. Look at their CEOs. Look at their Boards. Look at their corporate policies. They may have a few liberal-esque hosts as fronts in order to draw viewers who, like most Americans, are historically progressive. But the people who hold the cards are cynical pragmatists, and you’ve drunk their Kool-Aid. And Fox News is the worst, not because they’re biased, which is a smart marketing decision, but because they don’t have the decency to admit they are.
“The conservative owned media? Would that be the New York Times, Los Angeles Times, ABC, ABC, NBC, CNN? Or maybe you mean Jon Stewart, Steven Colbert; the quasi-news shows. There is Fox News, so I guess you’re right. Comment by andy”
Andy,
You need to look past the surface of programming to the men behind the curtain.
Talent is traditionaly liberal in Hollywood.
The moguls who own the networks and studios are notoriously conservative.
That’s why news orgs didn’t ask a single hard question during the Bush years but are now that the Democrats are in offfice.
That’s why Tom Daschle’s taxes made more of a news scandal news than the lies that started the Iraq war.
Ugh! James Gray already had two shots at ruining his career.
It’s exciting to be watching the one thing to ever come out of Hollywood that is not completely manufactured. Oh wait…
If you haven’t seen Alec Baldwin “doing his Joaquin”on Conan, it’s pretty hilarious:
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I totally agree with Geoff. I mean lets take it to other actors that should have quit years ago Robert Deniro, Al Pancino making that total crap buddy movie this year
Righteous Kill GIVE US BREAK! Just cashing the checks right guys? So Phoenix do all a favor FADE OUT!
It’s all one big spoof. Lets see, all the elements are in place. Camera Crew following the entire debacle, horrendous dancing that can only be explained as someone doing it that badly on purpose, rapping that just shouldn’t be done in public, and he’s taking himself seriously, and now he’s acting all aloof in the interview?
Come on morons, Letterman was in on it. THe director is certainly in on it, and we’ll see who else. And now his Pr reps are so quick to announce he’s serious about his career as a rapper, and that it’s NOT actually a joke? They’re just covering their tracks as best they can, everyone knows this will be some sort of spoof on the media and how they portray an actor “going off the deep end”, the websites will give him an enormous forum for his crap, and they’ll take all these ridiculous quotes to be truth, and in the process, they’ll look like fools, which is precisely Phoenix’s goal. Make the media look stupid week in and week out for a year, and maybe they’ll learn to back off a bit before printing everything ridiculous thing they hear.
It’s a prank, it might be funny, I’m guessing it will be. I’m guessing a lot of people will be in on it. But there is no way anyone that bad does’t have at least one person saying “don’t do it”!. This will be good for a laugh, as funny or disasterous as it turns out.
Good night and be well you idiots.