SATURDAY AM: Sources tell me Mark Itkin, WMA's unscripted television chief who was being wooed by CAA but now appears to be staying at the merged agency, may go on the WME board to fill the vacant Morris seat.
8PM UPDATE: I've just been told that WMA COO Irv Weintraub is next.
I'd heard speculation for at least 3 weeks that WMA CEO Jim Wiatt would be pushed out, and then it intensified starting last weekend as details of the plan started to emerge. It's heated up since Wednesday. And then I informed my William Morris sources that I was going to post about Wiatt's future, actually his lack of one, with the new WME Entertainment that was being formalized. (I was told to wait until this weekend, and I was begged not be brutal. Because they hoped to spin Variety today that this was all Wiatt's idea.) According to my insiders, Wiatt, who was supposed to take over the merged company's chairmanship, will be politely eased out with a statement that he made the decision to leave.
My information is that at least two WMA members of the new WME 9-person board (supposedly Peter Grosslight and John Fogelman and possibly others) are joining with the Endeavor members to ask Wiatt to jump before he was pushed in exchange for a meaningless title of "Emeritus". UPDATE: I've just heard that Jim's close pals, Hollywood lawyer Skip Brittenham and former Viacom mogul Tom Freston, warned Wiatt, "You have to resign, or you're going to be fired."
No WME announcement is forthcoming today.
Let me make clear: this is not a mutiny. Rather, it's a recognition that Wiatt had no place in the new company because of the leadership problems at William Morris that forced the venerable 111-year-old agency to seek out Endeavor in the first place. Nor did it help that Wiatt mishandled the negotiations and aftermath. As I reported on Wednesday, the WMA-Endeavor merger was looking increasingly like a takeover. Now it is obvious to everyone.
Whenever anyone outside the entertainment industry mentions talent agents, the conversation inevitably turns to Canon Drive. Yes, there really was a William Morris who in 1898 stopped selling ads for a garment-industry trade newspaper and started selling talent. The agency hearkens back to the early days of vaudeville, through flickers (silent movies) and talkies into the Golden Era of Radio and then the Golden Age of Television and then the nickel era of the Internet. But Morris’ greatest strength as an institution — its enduring constancy in the face of flux — would become the agency’s greatest weakness for decades. Close-knit to a fault, the group of elders who long ran the agency with one eye on the dotted line and the other on the bottom line viewed agenting not as a career but as a religion. For young agents, the feeling you were almost working for your parents was at times odd, even humorous, and stood in contrast to the cruel realities of show biz. It was assumed that the Morris elders would finish their careers at the Morris office and be carried out the door feet first.
Wiatt was brought in to shake up all that. With a father in the shmattah business, Wiatt was a Beverly Hills High brat who loved politics but never thought he’d make a good candidate. That’s why he believed he’d make a good agent because he never wanted to be the star. Wiatt rose at ICM to co-chairman because he could massage egos, put out fires, translate boss Jeff Berg "vision" into everyday concepts and, most importantly, get Sam Cohn on the telephone. But for years, Wiatt had lived the high life (literally) and, after two divorces and a third marriage, found himself deeply in debt to ICM. With reportedly over $1.5 million worth of loans outstanding, and most of his compensation tied up in company stock, Wiatt made no secret of the fact that he needed cold hard cash to keep his gilded lifestyle. After looking around, he jumped to Morris in a decision all about the money.
An argument could be made that Wiatt had a near-impossible task ahead of him to change the Beverly Hills agency from stuck-in-place-by-tradition to the cutting edge by effecting a generational transfer of power. A lot of egos were hurt, resulting in some surprising exits, when altercocker board members were pushed out to make way for fortysomethings. And then the board had to be configured again and again to make way for thirtysomethings and reward the most successful agents and departments, like Grosslight's music.
But it was also under Wiatt's watch that scripted television, once the cash cow at Morris, weakened to such an extent that the agency is more known now for its unscripted division. Sure, this coincided with the TV syndication market tanking, but WMA went from the undisputed No. 1 agency seller of scripted primetime TV shows to maybe 5th today. And the motion picture department, which Wiatt was specifically hired to strengthen, faltered even further.
The problems reached critical mass last October shortly after some layoffs inside the agency were rumored and then enacted. And then I wrote this posting: What's Really Happening Inside Morris?. I was stunned by the overwhelmingly negative comments that began flooding in to DHD about the William Morris Agency. I wasn't able to post 50% of them because they contained such unsavory allegations of personal and professional misconduct, including sexual harassment, hostile workplace, inter-office sexual liasons, bullying behavior, etc. Sure, the Morris office had always been dysfunctional. But this hate-spewing was far worse than anything I'd received about an agency previously and came from many different people inside and outside WMA. At its core was a huge schism between who was inside Wiatt's, Irv Weintraub's and Dave Wirtschafter's cliques, and who wasn't. This divide was based more on cronyism than merit. WMA was being run amok.
I suggested that Morris management take a long hard look at itself. I can now report that, soon after my post appeared, Wirtschafter, WMA's president, organized several staff meetings where personnel were encouraged to air their grievances. The amount of angst, and the level of animosity, stunned the agency's management. WMA realized its leadership under Wiatt had failed. A plan was conceived to make the TV and movie department start operating more like the very successfully led music department.
But that was backburnered when Ari Emanuel and Jim Wiatt began their merger talk. It didn't help matters internally at Morris when I reported last month that Wiatt had inexplicably given worldwide head of scripted television Aaron Kaplan a no-mitigation, $11 million, 5-year contract even though Kaplan's department had been so underperforming. This news became a source of consternation during the merger negotiations when it became clear that Wiatt was saving the jobs of his clique members to give him a power base in the company. Then, on Monday, 100 WMA people were laid off.
It's ironic that Wiatt came to WMA for the money, and now will exit with a hefty payout. (I hear $25 million.) But it's a high and humiliating price he's paying for his behavior. He's not a bad guy. He just wasn't the right guy to lead WME.


Let the speculation begin. CAA is FROTHING over what agents they’ll be able to poach from this.
I hope he gets rolled- pushed out of there at 95mph only after the board takes back the money. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy, what a loathsome, vile excuse for a human being he is. $50 to the first person who throws their Pepsi in his face as he sits on the floor at the next Lakers game.
good. push jim, kick irv..too little, too late.
Of all those leaving WMA and Endeavor, I wonder how many will end up joining other agencies, how many will strike out on their own and hang up their own shingle, and how many will decide they’ve had enough and leave the agent biz. Care to hazard a guess, Nikki?
Let’s hug it out!!!
Shocker…
Man, I grew up with Jimmy, everyone in town (his hometown of Beverly Hills) was amazed that he went this far but he sure had a great run. Bet Lizzy’s not at all happy about this!
Whatever. Its dumb. They’ve ruined it. WHERE ARE THE MIDGETS!?! SHOW YOURSELF BROKAW…ZIFKIN? They should bring back Haskell.
I think it is also time to look at peter grosslight- the succesfully run department is run by a bully- touring is at its height- not brilliant management skills
Not a bad guy? A man singlehandedly ruin’s the industry’s most venerable agency, then sells it down the toilet to enrich himself at the expense of 100 laid off staffers, many of whom gave years of their life to the agency and now will find it impossible to get hired? I would hate to see a real nbad guy.
He actually is a bad guy and not a very bright one either. Ari & thye gang did takeover WMA & for a song. The old WMA leadership (Roger Davis, Walt Zifkin, Norman Brokaw, Steve Kram, Jerry Katzman, Sam Haskell, Alan Kanoff, Lou Weiss, etc.) who brought in Sue Mengers, then Arnold Rifkin & then Wiatt perpetrated this disaster and started running the company into the ground after Stan Kamen died and Wiatt, Wirtschafter, Irv, fogelman & the rest merely finished the job and now the oldest company in the entertainment business will cease to exist.
Gasmer? Are they serious?
FANTASTIC. These guys really have no sense of their own miserable performance. After DZW’s dumb interview making clients flee, his buddies were actually calling around town saying other agencies were making calls trying to make dzw look bad.. He was doing a damn fine job himself.
And those that worked at wma know how horrible the leadership is/was. Promote gaby m when it is widely known what people think of her????
This all worked out well for Wiatt. He boasted about how he’d really be in charge of the new agency and now he’s being made to walk the plank. Good going Jim. Way to teach those pirates a lesson they’ll never forget about who’s really captain. Arrgghh.
The larger issue here that no one is speaking about is: What happens to Dave? Mr. no personality. Mr. I’ll give an interview and alienate all my clients Mr. I lost Spike Lee, Halle Berry, Jennifer Lopez and I still think I’m cool. It’s long been known that Wiatt was the only reason (at least logical reason) that Dave ascended to the throne. With Wiatt gone, I cannot imagine that Dave will sign up for the Ari show. Neither can I imagine, by the way, that Ari will sign up for the Dave show.
Dave has the personality of a drugged antelope. Pleasant. But you never really know if anyone is home. Besides, he much prefers New Zealand, and I’m sure he’s made a fortune off of Jim’s kindness.
They should make Wiatt stay and be Ari’s 2nd assistant! Better yet, send him to the mail room. Hand deliveries anyone
Wiatt was always the problem at ICM (contrary to popular belief) and he was always the problem at WMA.
Wiatt is probably having the WORST YEAR EVER — sheesh Wiatt, you really screwed up on this one, huh?
Kaplan is the stereotypical cartoonish agent that you imagine in your head…BUT he would always greet me in a genuine, decent way when he had no reason to acknowledge me at all, being a male floater asst.
team kaplan
Ari-
Can we please nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize?
But you’re not done yet…there are 2 more W’s to go. Please see to it that they are also gone by May 31, with the same 2 weeks of severance.
JW has desperately wanted a studio head job for so so so long. He is so arrogant, so nasty, so fake, and now we know, a horrible business men. I just hope he doesn’t get booted with too much cash in hand.
….they come, they go, who called?
‘Support staff’ person here. Worked at WMA 18 years. Granted, the nature of the business is tenuous, but I always thought I’d have a job at William Morris. Now, I’m old, having whittled away too many years here working my ass off only to see my ‘perks’ dwindled year after year. Wiatt, I’m not weeping for you, and maybe you’ll take Mr. Charming Irv down with you. No crocodile tears there. These guys still don’t know my name, because I’ve never mattered to them, and I can’t imagine that I matter to Ari and Rick Rosen either.
I’m still surprised that Endeavor isn’t going to have to shed some fat over this whole merger… as much as we’re calling this “a takeover,” Endeavor needed them too, and not just for the piles of WMA cash we keep hearing about.
The feature lit dept needs some major overhauling, especially since Lesher is gone and none of his boys can handle actually signing any big names (or keeping any of the ones they already have). Right now they are a bunch of little boys… they need a Daddy.
Same came be said for Endeavor’s TV department. Yes they’re good…but can they be better, absolutely.
Nikki-
“Not a bad guy”??
He’s Jon Peters without the brains and class.
Nikki,
So much talk about Wiatt and the others. What about Norman Brokaw? It was his client list that helped to build the modern day WMA. What will happen to him in this merge? He’s still in the office everyday. Is there any room for Norm at WME or is the old man being put out to pasture?
Definitive proof that Ari Emanuel is the biggest boss of all time.
Fogelman should be asked to leave. Sure it’s all under Wiatt’s hat that this happened, but John was running the MP dept. and that is what all this trouble steams from. The MP dept. was being run into the ground. John Fogelman is trouble and needs to be kept on a tight leash. Now that’s Wiatt’s gone, what happens to Eddie Murphy? At first I was worried about Endeavor wondering what they were doing with WMA, but now it seems Ari has had a solid plan all along. Take the clients and get rid of the baggage. However, there are still some key execus and or agents at WMA than need to be let go. I think everyone knows who I’m talking about.
I don’t think you could pay Sam Haskell enough money to set foot inside that place, let alone work there again. Although, that would be badass.
Waitt should go to Paradigm. He may not be the best leader when it comes to big agencies (leave that to Ari), but he’d fit in at Paradigm’s level. Possibly he could teach Sam Gores, who would rather sit court side at Laker’s game than spend his time figuring out how to hire those agents let go from WME, how to up his game and better the agency.
@wow Yeah, Wiatt’s “worst year ever” still involves a $25mill payout. We should all have such bad years…
Since his hey day at ICM, Jim Wiatt has been trying to get a studio job. He thought he was in line (once upon a time) for the Brad Grey job. The only problem is – No one will hire him. When Amy Pascal was vulnerable about 8 years ago, he leaned on Skip B. heavily to promote him to Stringer. He tried to be Joe Roth’s partner at Revolution. Quite honestly, it was like a clearance sale. Anyone want him? Unfortunately for the fate of the venerable agency, the answer was decidedly, NO. And so, he ran WMA into the ground. Never caring.
New company being formed:
The Eisner – Wiatt Agency
Ari-
Can we please nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize?
But you are only one-third done…there are still 2 W’s to go.
By May 31, please, with the requisite 2 weeks of severance.
Which idiot made the decision to let John Mass go? He brought millions in commission to the company
prediction: Jimmy will be working at fashionology… smile,kitties.. pay $200 for a shirt worth 10.
Wiatt, I know you’re too computer illiterate to read this, but you should rot in Beverly Hills the rest of your life for what you did to your junior agents.
Endeavor also clearly needed WMA. Seems neither agency could survive independently so nobody appears to be winning management awards.
No one has touched on the most pressing issue with respect to the future: how does Wiatt’s exit effect the new board and voting structure of WME??
With Endeavor’s 1 1/2 votes for board members to WMA’s 1, will another WMA agent get bumbed up to the board, or will it stay as is, effectively meaning that Endeavor is now in control of William Morris and all of its assets? That’s a monumental development if that’s the case. Why are you people not talking about it?
What a legacy for Jim Wiatt. The man who destroyed William Morris!! A bit like Time Warner/AOL!!
GO Jimbo!! Yo Mamma. Bitchin!!
Now it looks like the “drugged antelope” stands alone.
Ari – we need the coup de grace here. Please.
Ultimately this is about agents and their underlings who need to learn civility, and these layoffs will likely be the catalyst for some of them to search for meaning in their ridiculous and repetitive starf*cker, sales-pitch oriented lives.
If they really want to torture Wiatt, they should make him and his orange face ride elevators all over town as penance for destroying that company and damaging the careers of countless employees. At least now maybe he’ll have some free time to learn social graces so he can be more responsive than vacant stares when people are speaking to him and get over his freakish obsession against facial hair. If there is any karma in this world, Irv will be thrown overboard without a life vest. Just think about all the money they could save from their catering budget alone with him gone -probably enough to buy back their buildings and bailout Endeavor.
Actually Nikki…this is a mutiny.
Nikki! Interesting posts. The thing you have missed all along is that there are disgruntled assistants throughout entertainment but they only start kvetching on the blogs when you give them the opportunity. If you got a scoop on anyone at any agency and started to take them down, you would get the same results. Why are you so biased against WMA? I worked there for many years in high management. Jim Wiatt was a decent man and a great agent. He was a good leader. Ari is a scumbag and is widely hated throughout the industry. The problem with Wiatt is that he never had any leaders around him. Dave is a freak and so is Irv. Fogelman is a moron and hated by most and Gaby is widely known to be the most hated bitch in the industry. Jennifer Rudolph being a close second. Kaplan is an abusive jerk and those are just the obvious players. A man can’t lead a company like that without any leaders around him. it’s a joke and it’s no wonder that he handed the keys to the kingdom over to Ari but you, Nikki, should take responsibility for creating a vicious and bilious atmosphere where this could happen. You won’t publish this because you are a coward and hide behind your blog. But know you are a bad person and kharma will come back to get you for being so mean spirited.
wiatt to paradigm?? thats a hilarious thought. even he wouldn’t stoop that low. now maybe he’d buy paradigm, he could turn the building back into a studio and finally get the studio job he’s always wanted. The paradigm agents could work as tour guides on the lot…
People.
The real questions seem to me to be : Did Endeavor defraud the board/shareholders of at least a $25 million payment to Wiatt through something resembling premeditating conspiracy? (Patty Glaser – dotted the “i”s and slashed the “t”s in this non-public merger? Wiatt’s exit contract will I’m sure be quite the mousetrap piece of cheese.)
Was this the plan from the very beginning? Had to have been.
Also : At what point exactly were the board members that jumped to the Endeavor side “in” on this latest development…
And : Is it possible that there was an understanding between Endeavor and Wiatt from the the start? (We collude to give you the big payout = you go away.) (Didn’t Wiatt remember what “the board” did to Jeff Franklin the owner of the old A.T.A. when Shelly Schultz was replaced way back when at I.C.M? Beat him up and pushed him out the door when he was no longer of use. Wiatt’s been through all of this and from a real position of strength. Naive he’s not. Cynical yes; naive no.)
What Emanuel’s going to find out is that gutting the place isn’t going to make it any more manageable. He has no experience managing a company of this size. Managing the company is a full-time job. He doesn’t seem to have the tact, mind, or grace of a Richard Lovett; or a Jeff Berg; or like many of the agents at U.T.A., nor the support of a company OF THIS MAGNITUDE, which he knows, which is why he’s killing off the Bolsheviks with any semblance of company institutional memory.)
His big clients (Cohen; Scorsese; Larry David; Wahlberg – someday “Entourage” will end and he’ll ask himself – how cool am I really if the imaginary Vincent Chase has a better film career than I do) are going to find this out the hard way.
Yes it all smells greedy. But it also smells on both sides QUITE DESPERATE. In terms of company policy look next for the big push of “sharing” clients. Fire the powerless. Dilute the remaining “powerful” through ruthless undermining proximity.
And it isn’t going to work because after all of this – agents, buyers, clients – who could possibly trust the guy and his loyalists – which in the end will function no differently than Wiatt and Co. out of the necessity of maintaining power and the perception that they have it all under control.
First things first though. And one wonders, even though the first thing/ norm would be to rush to the banks and the hedge funds, to pull together some credit based on the perception of things – the “heat” angle before verifiability turns up like a wedgie in gym class – and it always does; Joe Brooks Brothers gets to brag about being in business with everybody from Conan O’Brien to the White House is the idea… over “bailout” steaks at the Palm…will Endeavor have the financial mechanism in place to follow through while all of the old rules are being inexorably rewritten permanently by OUTSIDE FORCES not self-aggrandizing insiders perhaps helpless to them. Look at Jeff Zucker and NBC; he pretends he has a visionary “lock” on this stuff; the network is unrecognizable and has been in the financial “cups” for a lot more than just a “down” cycle or two.)
And here’s Emanuel for you : The “emeritus” thing for Wiatt came from the Comments section of this very blog. I remember it in reference to a major Endeavor competitor. He seized the idea when he read it in order to finesse the merger through what was probably a very scared and exhausted Jim Wiatt staring down internal daggers once news of a possible merger was leaked on purpose. Wiatt was always probably better suited to being a manager anyway.
Look for the lengthy no-compete clause that buried Sue Mengers permanently with a lot of her former clients in order for Wiatt to cash the payday check that, perhaps even to the decimal point, is being funded by 100 lost jobs through attrition and seizing back compensation rights related to multiyear employment contracts most certainly to a degree. If violated these contracts may very well be quite actionable.
That’s a lot of agents. “Class action” might be quite possible if the terms are not met. They’ll slow it down; mete it out; promise the moon; hope that prolonged fear of unemployment will make these agents grateful for any kind of settlement…therefore the terms of the contracts will change in a “no one can hear you scream” parallel reality of the negotiations where you’ll be sitting at home waiting for the phone to ring with some indeed any good news.
Saw the “Night at the Museum” sequel tonight. Nice genuinely funny and sweet family movie. Better than the first.
Apologies for being brain dead but – isn’t this an unbelievable manueveur? I mean, Wiatt sought out the very people that kicked him out? And Nikki, you have the audacity to say it’s NOT a mutiny? What is it? Fogelman voted against him? The two people who shook hands – walked each other’s hallways – weeks ago, and one gets stabbed in the back (or side). Not sure how much he knew in advance, but surely this is a mutiny/a coup/a stunning turn of karma. No? And what of Ed Limato? The once grand damme of agents is now reduced to some silent grey haired guy in the corner trumpeting that he and Patrick Whitesell co-signed a guy from LOST who can’t (and won’t) get arrested. Where’s his loyalty (other than his paycheck)? This is weird, even when baseball players change teams there’s a period of grace for them to get used to each other. Not so with WME. Those two faced WMA agents have loyalty only to themselves. Witness George Freeman, the most despicable, phony, two faced agent of them all. 10 to one you won’t see him exiting with Mr. Wiatt any time soon. And Dave the will be opening WME New Zealand faster than you can say “drugged antelope”.
As someone who gave a decade a half to this company, and was let go, I feel a true combination of schadenfreude and true sadness as to this whole situation. Not being on the inner clique that you so well describe, I always felt a true uphill battle to be recognized and appreciated at a company where i brought in 5 times (or more) my salary ever year. It’s great to know that my years of hard work and commission brought in by my clients will go to lining Jim and Irv’s pockets (when Irv purposely did nothing to line mine).
Right now, while watching Valhalla burn to the ground (twilight of the gods indeed), I wonder what other good I could have done with those many years, the people I could have helped, the lives I could have helped make better someplace else. But, at least when I go to sleep at night, I can be comfortable with the fact that I did not hurt many many people. Jim and Irv cannot sleep with the same comfort.
so uh whats the point of even calling it wme anymore? just call it what it is: endeavor with wma’s reality and music department. everyone else is getting fired anyway.
Do you have to keep using that photo of Ari Emanuel? Tux, hands out, smiling that stupid insincere smile. Could anyone look like a bigger douchebag? Or is that why you keep using it? I just hope he is able to focus on the things that really matter, like making sure they get the right architect for the new office than worrying about silly little things like the human beings that worked their asses off for the company only to be fired, and the clients that entrusted said companies with their careers.
WME = William Morris Emanuel
Having just read Sam Haskell’s book in which he describes how Wiatt backstabbed him when he came in from ICM and forced the hugely successful Haskell out of the agency he helped prosper….Karma really is a bitch.
So with Wiatt on his way out where does that leave his team on the board. Will Jennifer Walsh be next to leave?
She was one of Wiatt’s closest allies and worked very hard for the merger to happen. She is not selling very many books these days as she has been concentrating her efforts on moving up the ranks of the agency. Mel Berger at WME (old WMA) has sold over the last six months ten to one over Walsh.
The New York office has not been profitable for many years. What will be next for all the agents who are left at WME in that office? As I mentioned in a previous posting the Endeavor group has the advantage in any personnel move being executed or contemplated?
For those of you who think Wiatt is at fault you are looking in the wrong place. This was all initiated by Walt Zifken and Norman Brokaw. They were the decision makers who alone brought Wiatt into WMA without consulting their colleagues. It was done so that that the two of them would be able to remain at the firm for as long as they wished to do so. All Zifkin and Brokaw did was to let a vampire into the agency who had no regard for the welfare of WMA only for himself.
Wiatt’s greatest weakness was his inability to sounded himself with a range of talented people. He only sought out those that would agree with him and do his bidding.
Beentherebefore
times change but this is sad for wma… wiatt- no one liked, and no one had reason to… anyone else who worked there like me knows the place was run by buddy system.. merit was not rewarded, and the company suffered. who recall wiatt giving a speach about the ‘new’ wma, and working together the SAME week gaby got promoted to head of talent????? joke! wma’s hr department even had a sign about how lovely gaby was to work with.
wiatt’s departure will surely mean many more soon to follow – those nonproducers who were protected (smoller anyone? bialek?)
but everyone should stop cheering ari, he is charismatic for sure, but he was running an agency deep in the red.
“I’m Chairman Emeritus. Do you know what that means? It means not Chairman.” Lou Weiss
Laura Reynolds, sorry, but when you refer to the “grace” of Jeff Berg, you lose all credibility.
Nikki – I want to word this very carefully so that you print it. I’ve heard from excellent and reliable sources that there has been some sexual misconduct among some of the agents at WMA. I won’t name names as I know that you won’t print if I do. Just wondering if you can address any of these very loud rumors. Also, I’ve heard that one woman in particular is threateing a lawsuit unless they settle. Again, no names.
You might want to see how accurate this is, as the story only gets more intriguing.
The WMA board is currently comprised of some people who were “fired” only 4 days ago and they just voted Wiatt out. Talk about poetry! I still believe what he and Glaser did with the “cease & desist” letters is the most disgusting thing of all, preventing these hard working men & women from making a living and supporting their families. Hey, isn’t the last high profile man Glaser worked for in prison right now? Jim meet Terry, Terry meet Jimmy. Hmmmm…
Dixon Steele. Point taken and a valid one at that vis a vis Berg. My point is that, in the end, and there have been plenty of ends at I.C.M., with Berg you know where you stand when you work for him – even if it’s on quicksand. Poor choice of words in reference to Berg and I concede the point. Thanks for calling me out.
Norman is still around and is still chairman emeritus. He has signed a 2 year contract… He still has his clients and meets with new ones.
WME = William Morris Emanuel
Comment by arismyhero — May 23, 2009 @ 8:40 am
Totally!
Dixon! A sarcastic and supercilious “sorry” back at ya.
Just because Jeff Berg isn’t going to win any popularity contests doesn’t negate the credibility of anything Laura Reynolds wrote. A little close to the bone? You must be the guy on Ari’s crew who’s been designated “Propagandist Emeritus.” She hit the next few years at William Morris and you know it. The questions she asked are completely valid. Such a dramatic flip-flop of PR doesn’t happen overnight like that. There are way too many people involved for any of this to not be premeditated or to have flipped so quickly. Mark Itkin should go produce or program a network and then where will Ari be? Pressing the flesh at a Peter Grosslight concert. Rock on Ari! Don’t forget your country/western cowboy hat! Party on fratguyz! Don’t forget to stick out your tongues Kiss-style or your Bic disposables or your waving lit cell phone screens…
All politics and hatred aside…for those of us who were lucky enough to start at William Morris BEFORE there was much of a CAA, Stan Kamen was alive, and the place was a true legend…this is a very sad time. I got my first job there when I was 19 through the Friedman Agency LOL. Like everyone else. My colleagues there were Marty Adelstein, Steve Rabineau, Jordan Bayer, Cary Woods, Rick Jaffa, J.J. Harris, Brian Lourd, you name it – I could go on all day. It was a BLAST. Remember that group, and that time at WMA? I can’t even list all of the names of the friends that were there and I still adore. EVERYONE went through there before CAA. I can’t believe it was driven into the ground. I don’t care who did it. It sucks. This business has changed so much and I’m not so sure for the better.
Sun Tzu Lives!
In my mind WMA went downhill when they merged with TRIAD. And they did that because 4 women left for ICM. Toni Howard, Elaine Goldsmith, Risa Shapiro, and Boaty Boatwright. Collectively they had some of the biggest talent in the business, Susan Sarandon, Julia Roberts, Tim Robbins, Jennifer Connely, Andie MacDowall, Rosie O’Donnell, and big directors like Pakula, Frears, Jewison, Scorsese. At the time it was a huge defection, and cost the boys on the board a shitload of money (money they never would pay the women) to acquire a new agency. The truth is that the boys who make the decisions at that company always rewarded themselves first. So, if we’re talking Karma, perhaps these ARE the just desserts.
The New York office is profitable, beentherebefore.
Nikki – Someone pointed out to me that Kevin Huvane is in deep background of Ari’s picture. Now, that’s funny! And so Nikki. Wonder if he’s similing or shreiking?
What about Rick Rosen? One of the biggest shits I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with…totally useless.
where it began, I think you need to go back in time a little farther. Maybe when they brought Sue Mengers back in the late 80’s, or to when Stan Kamen died and they let Ed Limato leave and go to ICM instead of making him department head. Or when they made Jerry Katzman, a TV agent, President of the agency following Lee Stevens’ death. But the beginning of the end was surely when Ovitz and company left to form CAA.
re: Where it Began…
those women left 2 years before WMA acquired Triad. it was one of the reasons WMA made the acquisition
Dear “IN THE KNOW” – Triad was acquired BECAUSE those four women left. And those women left because of Toni Howard. She wanted a raise, the board wouldn’t give it to her. She left, they followed, and the board ended up spending $50 million dollars for a sub-standarad merge whereas they could have given her a $25,000 per year raise.
The actual merge was announced 2 months later, and happened at the end of that year. My points was historically the board has behaved irrationally and set in motion the very actions that occured with Jim Wiatt. While this may not have been the turning point, it was yet another chink in the armor.
Why has no one mentioned Abe and Frances Lastfogel – the ones really responsible for the womb to tomb attitude.
Nikki, Peter Grosslight is not the reason that WMA’s music department is successful. It is Marc Geiger. Peter Grosslight can barely push paper, barely has an understanding of the modern music deal and is stuck in the 80’s. He’s a diletante who hired a real guy with vision to whip that department into shape. Before Geiger came to WMA (the second time) and after Richard Rosenberg left, WMA’s music department in LA consisted of a bunch of cool guys who had great taste in music. The Nashville office ran like IBM, routing tour after tour,but the LA office, was like the A & R department of a struggling indie label. Geiger brought the department into the 21st century. Please do not give Peter Grosslight that credit. It’s just false.
And, by the way, Wiatt is a bad guy. The company was screwed. He tried to fix it by trading out the people who worked hard for their clients every day. They just weren’t in his clique.
With his giant golden parachute, maybe Wiatt and Lizzie can build a house next to Ovitz and they can take on City Hall together.
Hey, wouldn’t it be funny if every artist currently represented by William Morris and Endeavor jumped ship to other agencies? Wouldn’t that be funny as hell?
Comments are hilarious, accurate, honest and brilliant.
The music department, agents and clients look like Tom Ross’ dpartment at ICM and then CAA, which is why it is so successful.
Tom Ross was JW’s mentor at ICM. Wyatt should have learned about leadership, humanity and grace from him.
Well Marc great fiction! Toni left because she was cut of the management of the company and she convinced the other woman who followed her that they had no future and that it was the smart thing to leave. So it was not simply “the money”. The problem with Toni and the others is they simply were not management material. Being a terrific agent does not necessarily translate into be a great at company management. That goes for both woman and men. The old men who ran the firm certainly had serious problems when it came to understand woman in business and how to manage their wants.
The Triad deal was one of the smartest moves ever made by WMA. First the foundation of the music department resulted from that purchase. Richard Rosenberg joined the agency from Triad. He ran the music department there. He took the music business at WMA from a small contributor to a very successful part of the firm. He was also willing to hiring agents that the old men on the board simply would have rejected out of hand as not fitting their idea of what an agent should be.
Rosenberg was on the WMA board and helped to shape what is today one the agency’s strongest divisions in commissions.
Next the packaging income that came into WMA from the Roseanne Barr show was huge. Only shows like Cosby and Murphy Brown equaled that level of money. Triad had been the TV packager for the show and WMA captured the up side once Triad merged with WMA.
A group of terrific agents (some of whom are managers today) also came over to WMA strengthening the ranks of agents in all the entertainment departments.
Arnold Rifkin tried hard to turn the picture business around at WMA but was undercut by the old men on the board at every twist in the road. Arnold was the only head of the picture department since Stan Kamen that not only understood the picture business but made every effort to succeed at WMA under difficulty circumstances.
Many at WMA observed Arnold’s major flaw which was his fear of rejection. If an agent allows that to take hold he/she are heading no where fast in any business.
After Walt Zifkin, Lou Weiss, Norman Brokaw and Jerry Katzman took over the firm the bottom line is that while other agency’s grew and did well in a changing landscape in the entertainment business, the leadership at WMA failed to lead and out complete firm both new and old. Then the men mentioned above except for Katzman simply decided to cash out with Wiatt. Leaving every one else in the firm high and dry.
Beentherebefore
Nikki,
You are like the good old days. Hedda & Louella all rolled into one.
“BEENTHEREBEFORE” & “Former Mgmt at WMA” both provide valuable comments. Both appear informed…but (yup a “but” had to exist!)….”appearances can be deceiving”, so……
As a “litmus” test…can either provide the name of the specific person at WMA who basically “caused” the creation of CAA? He is still alive and active! WMA Stock, was the tix to riches for many…what “types” of stock were provided to WMA employees? How many “classes” of WMA Stock were offered & what was the difference? What amount, as recently as 2000, was the name “The William Morris Agency” valued at via an INTERNAL audit (keep in mind the value of the name has a direct correlation to the value of the stock—WMA never had a “Warehouse in Wichita filled with Widgets”). Precisely where were the vast majority of WMA’s Real Estate holdings, who was the architect behind many of those purchases, what was the name of the holding company for those Real Estate assets? What “rights”, from WMA being the owner of specific Real Estate holdings, continue to provide a return in perpetuity? What was the construct of the WMA BOD from approx 1985-1990 forward (i.e. the BOD votes on a policy…the vote is in “favor” of the policy…is that it? Or did whatever the policy have to be further approved—and why and by whom?)
If either of you can provide accurate and informed responses to the above—keeping in mind that the first question is actually “subjective” and no true absolute correct answer exists (but, a very good one does)—then your comments will have improved validity…otherwise please stop posting your respective stream of conciousness opposed to facts…calling people names like “moron” and “jerk” and worse while suggesting that this website is a place for assts to vent is a bit of a confused argument, no? Claiming that WMA NY was unprofitable for many years is just very confused, period. Why don’t you two take a stab at the questions above…and I will check back later to confirm that either of you know “at least a very little”….& provide the correct answers.
One point I would like to make is that a load of abuse and criticism has been leveled at “non”-agents who were WMA Mngmt (i.e. Machiavelli)…no doubt WMA like any business had “good” & “bad” Mngmt…being negative towards the Mngmt that decided upon bonuses and/or showed people the “door” is too easy & short sighted.
Thanks!
I was there during another ‘dark’ set of years, prior to the Triad deal but after all the 1980s coke fueled hijinks.
The TV Dept was rocking with packaging and the money made from Roseanne alone could have funded a small country for decades. I witnessed some good agenting (Bruce Brown, Steve Glick) and some really bad agenting, mostly by guys who are now running the place or currently managing their clients into the ground. Aaron Kaplan was in the mailroom and couldn’t even do that right. Glen Rigberg was well, Glen Rigberg.
I was only there a short time but you could see the tides shifting from true agents to guys who would sell windows or blood if it paid them the same money. All they are interested in is cash, not careers. That’s why so many have left.
Plus, when I was there the women were very far from any type of roll model or sounding board. You were on your own to get screwed over. And it was just a matter of time until you did.
Good try WMA FACTS.
All one has to do is look at the fact that the WMA is no longer and that the start of the decline was under the complete control of Zifkin, Brokaw and Weiss. They controlled the A stock and made decisions completely on their own without the impute of others. The Wiatt hire was theirs alone. The present results reflect those individual’s decisions. They hired Wiatt and then feathering their own beds allowed the business to come to this point.
As to real-estate questions please feel free to call Wiatt as he has pocketed much of that money himself from the sale of the WMA real-estate holdings. That is the main reason he forced out other previous board members. Zifin, Brokaw and Weiss also shared in the real-estate sales as the process of dismantling the business was occurring.. That is their legacy.
BEENTHEREBEFORE.
Hey, genius’ -
Tony Howard left for money. Elaine Goldsmith left because Tony had her under her thumb, and Elaine believed that she had to be where Tony was. NOt so sure she believed it when she got there, and in the end, she was the only one with clients that mattered. It was about jockying to get Elaine to ICM. The rest of them were meaningless.
And the posts are right. The biggest change came with the defection of the WMA agents who formed CAA. The rest was fallout.
It’s disappointing that “BEENTHEREBEFORE” & “Former Mngmt at WMA” haven’t responded to any of the queries posed. Kinda getting skeptical that they “Formerly BEEN THERE”!!!
As to the subjective question—-the “good” answer is Larry Auerbach. The FOUNDERS of CAA all came from WMA—except for Fred Westhiemer (sic) who must have thought their “endeavor” was a roll of the dice, but he was offered the opportunity to “flee” with Ovitz, etc. Mr. Auerbach was very intelligent and a very able agent. He transitioned from the NYC office in the early-mid 70’s to the BH office, and was a Member of the BOD. Mr. Auerbach was “old school”… (speaking of “schools” I believe he is–or was–a Dean @ USC…once he left WMA he basically became the liaison between USC & H-Wood…something the far less able Mr. Katzman copied with UCLA)… and of the womb-tomb mentality. Ovitz and the others found Mr. Auerbach’s “wait your turn” dictates to be a bit too acerbic. They attempted a “run around” and approached members of the WMA hierarchy—all of whom (except for one guy—forget his name, but he rep’d the guy from the Carol Burnett show…Tim???) sided with Mr. Auerbach. Indeed an “over simplification” but basically close to what actually transpired. The formation of CAA wasn’t the “nail in the coffin” for WMA…it WAS the coffin, the plot, and the tombstone…the TRIAD stuff is pretty irrelevant to the “chain of events”…it was set in motion w/ the departure of Ovitz, etc & the creation of CAA. Subsequently…some “possible outs” did exist in terms of solid leadership—but fate intertwined and Lee Stevens passed away young after having climbed to the Presidency of WMA (which was particularly remarkable because Mr. Stevens was a NY Agent & NYU Law Grad…The previous WMA Prez to come from NYC dated back to Nat Lefkowitz…I think???).
I’m leaving out answers to the middle questions in hopes that “BEENTHEREBEFORE” & “Former Mngmt at WMA” will STEP UP!!! As for the WMA BOD. Being a Member of the Board was a “lottery ticket” in regards to stock endowed upon Members and the increase in salary, profit participation, etc. BUT it wasn’t the “POWERBALL” lottery ticket. Being a Member of the WMA BOD was rather meaningless for “average” Board Members…a couple of Literary guys, some strictly mngmt types, a few old school types…the real POWER was in the laps of 3 people who have been mentioned by previous posters. Unbeknownst to many—these 3 had what amounted to a total VETO…and in their laps rested the real and total control of the “money strings” and thus WMA.
Still looking forward to hearing back from “BEENTHEREBEFORE” & “Former Mngmt at WMA”!!!
Thanks!
Tom Conway’s agent was Phil Weltman. The original partners at CAA considered Weltman their mentor. There used to keep a picture of him in the lobby at Century Park East.
Well WMA Facts – “a lottery ticket”
The agents who joined the board of WMA were some of the must successful agents at the firm. The entire board was deeply involved with the decision to merge with Triad. One of the best decisions made by the group.
Stock at companies is often used to retain the most successful people. At WMA board members were not the only stock holders. That is the reason that the board at Endeavor grew to it’s size. The board there was used to retain and hire some of the best agents in the industry.
You are correct that only Walt Zifkin, Norman Brokaw and Lew Weiss controlled the company. We are observing the result of their control as WMA has come undone. The above mentioned men inherited their positions and instead of being true to the tradition of passing the firm on to the next generation they feathered their own nests without a care for others who worked along side of them. Walt Zifkin even deserted two of his own hires/promotions on the board Alan Kannof and Steve Kram. They were both forced out as a trade off for the owners of the company to cash out. Wiatt was not satisfied with only those two. He, with the support of the other owners of the firm forced out all the other members who could have shared in the real-estate proceeds after they had served the company for decades.
BEENTHEREBEFORE
The WMA was in deep trouble before Wiatt got there. I think it was a smart move for WM to take Wiatt from ICM, hoping that he would bring over some top agents and talent with him…that of course would immediate increase business for WM…after all, they were in the toilet.
A good move for Wiatt too…he became his own boss, on par with Berg now. But that was essentially in title only. If Wiatt was a dick head at WM, but provided new revenues, then he’d be a hero. After all, this isn’t a personality contest, its about money.
These days, agencies are about themselves first, then the clients. When I worked at ICM it was about the clients…then Berg took charge. Wiatt as an agent is great…he works for his clients. I don’t know if he’s the type to run all of the divisions at an agency…who is? The business is just too massive for one man…